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Shit box shooting challenge

fdkay

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    Winner, winner, chicken dinner:




    Super Awesome Tactical Bipod:
     

    brianf

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    If you would have been on this site 10-12 years ago, you would have seen quite a few savages
    I have and saw lol
    Every question was answered euthe

    but a gap in 308
    Or buy a savage

    If you didn’t know better one would think there wasn’t anything else for sale.
     

    johnnyvw

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    Winner, winner, chicken dinner:




    Super Awesome Tactical Bipod:
    That rifle leaves $40 for scope and bipod....
     
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    fdkay

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    That rifle leaves $40 for scope and bipod....
    OOOPs, head up my ass.
    I was thinking 500 for the gun and no more than 500 for everything else.
    Don't know where I got that idea.
    You can't even buy a pawn shop reject for less than 500 right now.
    Maybe you can track down a savage 340 in .222 or something.
     

    Steel head

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    If you would have been on this site 10-12 years ago, you would have seen quite a few savages
    Exactly!
    That’s why I got my savage years ago.
    It was truly the best cheap option.

    There was no tikka, bergara or howa options or aftermarket support like now.
    There were also a lot fewer aftermarket options.
    Surgeon was a top contender especially if you had a S&B on top of it.

    How equipment trends have changed.
    Pretty simple times back then.

    I still remember hitting 1000 the first time with my savage shortly followed along with 1250, 1400 and borrowing a friends scope (a Hensoldt 4x16, remember those?) to do 1600 because my vortex HS-T couldn’t get me there.

    😂
    Now I usually warm up with 1500 yards and quickly move to 2000+
    My savage became my newb loaner gun with a 7 year old girl recently hitting 1000 yards on her second shot and schooling her dad, ohhhh boy I talked a lot of shit 😂 and she was sooooo proud!

    It ALL started with a savage for me!
     
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    oneshot86

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    Hi,

    Don't bother, lol.........I just got off whatsapp with my guy and put my deposit on a custom build strictly for this challenge. As soon as he goes down to Western Union and collects the 50% deposit of $6.26 my build will start.
    He sent me a few of his latest builds purely to build my confidence in his capabilities.

    View attachment 7652700

    My barrel will be next up on the rifling machine.
    View attachment 7652702

    Sincerely,
    Theis
    That shit is sooooo snipery
    Ur gonna win fer shur
     

    lash

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    I do not know Greg personally, but do believe that he’s been busy with family and health and I believe is mostly having to put his shooting days past him. I could be wrong, though.
     

    300zx_tt

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    I say a bipod of the Harris variety and no rear bag.
    Rear support must be a body part, and of your own body.
    Although, some nice pillows (or cakes) would be great, it would probably be a huge distraction and possibly lead to other expenses... 🤣🤣
    Went with the old Caldwell for this particular setup… 19 bucks down $480 to spend 😂
     
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    BruceInOz

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    Vortex Diamondback Tac maybe or Bushnell?
    See if you can find a good, old Redfield 3-9 with the range-finder reticule and sort-of calibre-calibrated turret caps. Being gloss-finished one-inch optics, they seem to be looked down on and relatively inexpensive. I have two of them, one on a .223 and the other on a .308. both 'field" rifles. OK by me.
     

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    Marinevet1

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    Sounds like fun........we would need a list of rules/specifications..........let' do it..............
     

    supercorndogs

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    Instead of you all buying a 500 dollar POS, just chip in and get a loaner custom rifle for your cheap ass friend. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

    Looks like the only thing I have that makes the price range is a Mossberg 500 spray painted camo, I bought it for 180 dollars when I turned 12.
     

    Justin Petrovich

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    You could get a thompson center with vortex crossfire 2. I am interested to see how this turns out.
     

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    pmclaine

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    Get a Dicks special, plastic stock, Remington 700 ADL and stuff a Redfield/Leupold 3-9X on it, in a Redfield/Leupold base and rings.

    It would be the IROC of the rifle world.

    And I bet it will shoot just fine within a certain round count and especially so if you only shoot the crosshair or using reticle holds.

    or this....

     
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    Mike Casselton

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    Got the Shitbox ready.
    I took it out of the safe and looked at it.
    Ran the elevation turret to its max and yep, I'll have to hold over at 1k.

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    The stock still has the screwed up finish from getting wet while sitting in a case.
    The rings are Burris, so I'll have to account for like $20 instead of the $7.95 set I thought it was wearing.

    A box of 140 Nosler Ballistic tips. Load data on the label.
    It's funny, back when I started loading for this rifle, 39.0 grains was 1 grain under max.
    Now it's over max based on the newer data.
    Thankfully, my IMR 3031 is old and it's a mix of at least 7 different lot numbers. 😁
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    Primers were from a mix of 3 lots.

    The brass is also different lots and different ages.


    Hornady Dof says:
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    Gonna need to do a little math and figure out holdover.

    Anyhow,
    $216, rifle
    $110, scope
    $40 rings and used Harris bipod.

    Total:
    $366

    Wednesday this week is the day.
     
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    1moaoff

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    I say a bipod of the Harris variety and no rear bag.
    Rear support must be a body part, and of your own body.
    Although, some nice pillows (or cakes) would be great, it would probably be a huge distraction and possibly lead to other expenses... 🤣🤣
    Bipod must be less than 30$ to make it fun
     

    Mike Casselton

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    Success happened at 1k today.
    I'll just say this, the BC listed for the 7mm 140gr Nosler Ballistic Tip isn't even remotely close to published numbers.

    Gonna have to do some tinkering in 4-Dof to get things lined up and get the real, no BS BC. Standby...

    To do things quickly at the range, I kept dropping my MV down to try and at least get things closer to impact point.
    After dropping MV 125fps, I knew that the BC, .485 G-1, wasn't even remotely close to published numbers.

    After I got home, I ran velocity back to 2675 and played with BC
    I had to drop it from published .485 to .384 to match up with actual drop. 😡

    Since the scope was a 1" tube, elevation and windage were severely limited.
    Initially, I had to dial all available elevation plus hold the 1 mil dot above expected impact.

    It turned out to need 2 mil elevation above horizontal.

    My first shot at 1k was .1m low and .1m left.
    I corrected windage and forgot to correct elevation holdover.
    Plunked two shots directly under the IPSC and then realized my error.
    Corrected elevation and a solid center mass hit.

    I got greedy and tried for three head shots and missed all three by a tiny bit. Oh well.

    Moral of the story?
    It's doable and honestly not hard once you have the dope.
    If I had been using a Mil/Mil optic and target bullets, it would have been a piece of cake.

    I'll go back and do it again, but I'll need to find some more 140 Ballistic Tips. Unfortunately, they are unobtanium right now.

    Should be pretty easy next time. Dial the scope up as far as it will go, come back one click. Hold two mil dots high. I should make a solid hit.

    I didn't take any video since it would have looked like a swimming pool.
    Mirage was awful.
     

    fdkay

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    Success happened at 1k today.
    I'll just say this, the BC listed for the 7mm 140gr Nosler Ballistic Tip isn't even remotely close to published numbers.

    Gonna have to do some tinkering in 4-Dof to get things lined up and get the real, no BS BC. Standby...

    To do things quickly at the range, I kept dropping my MV down to try and at least get things closer to impact point.
    After dropping MV 125fps, I knew that the BC, .485 G-1, wasn't even remotely close to published numbers.

    After I got home, I ran velocity back to 2675 and played with BC
    I had to drop it from published .485 to .384 to match up with actual drop. 😡

    Since the scope was a 1" tube, elevation and windage were severely limited.
    Initially, I had to dial all available elevation plus hold the 1 mil dot above expected impact.

    It turned out to need 2 mil elevation above horizontal.

    My first shot at 1k was .1m low and .1m left.
    I corrected windage and forgot to correct elevation holdover.
    Plunked two shots directly under the IPSC and then realized my error.
    Corrected elevation and a solid center mass hit.

    I got greedy and tried for three head shots and missed all three by a tiny bit. Oh well.

    Moral of the story?
    It's doable and honestly not hard once you have the dope.
    If I had been using a Mil/Mil optic and target bullets, it would have been a piece of cake.

    I'll go back and do it again, but I'll need to find some more 140 Ballistic Tips. Unfortunately, they are unobtanium right now.

    Should be pretty easy next time. Dial the scope up as far as it will go, come back one click. Hold two mil dots high. I should make a solid hit.

    I didn't take any video since it would have looked like a swimming pool.
    Mirage was awful.
    Nosler has some very inflated BC numbers, they have gotten better over the last couple of years.
    I have a match rifle in 7-08.
    I shoot the Hornady 162's over a stiff charge of 6.5 sta-ball in starline SRP .308 brass necked down.
    My barrel is a touch over 26" and 2800 fps is not hard to hit without pressure signs.
    That powder is a godsend to 7-08 shooters, I need to find more.
    VERY flat shooting.
     
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    Mike Casselton

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    I've got StaBall and access to some Berger 168s but it didn't seem like it would stay within the spirit of the Shitbox theme.

    The rifle I shot is totally capable of laying waste to a 1k IPSC.
    Even the 140 noslers are fine.
    The total lie of its BC was the only issue.

    Out to 300yds, everything was fine. As soon as I shot the 400, 525 and 600, it was apparent the number didn't match actual BC.

    I got it hitting properly at 600, then tore up the 800.

    At 1k, any miss after the first shot was operator error and greed. 😂
     
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