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Should I bed my rifle??

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Hi fellas,
I have another dumb question for you guys. I bought a barreled action on the hide.. A Rem 700 in .308- It has a rock creek 5R - then bought a McMillan A5 and Badger M5 BDM. Everything fits like a glove. The rounds feed great out of the magazine. The barrel is free floated and channeled great.. And the rifle is a shooter. Easily sub moa- prob 1/2 moa if I could shoot that good but I suck (but getting better). So- would I benefit in any way from having the rifle bedded?? or " If it's not broke, then don't fix it???" Would it be a waste of money? Thanks
 
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I agree it won't hurt. I was just in that predicament a couple of weeks ago. Just got a B&C stock for my 700 and when I mounted it, the barrel was floating. It shot great too, but I kept thinking about bedding it and after reading wnroscoe's thread, I said fu@k it and decided to do it myself. Just following his instructions, the damn thing turned out pretty bad ass. Did it help? I think it did, my groups are a little smaller and a lot more consistent. Probably the biggest thing (for me at least) was the peace of mind. I'm sure it's mental but I feel more confident when I shoot now. Hope this helps!
 
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Yes , bed it. Those stocks are meant to be bedded. It will do it good. It is not a waste of money, or your time if you do it your self. Best of luck.
 
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Yea... I guess they are meant to be bedded... Any maybe the rifle would get even better. I just was not sure.. It is the middle of January and now would be the time to do it.. I am not sure if I would want to do it myself. I have never bedded a rifle before. I might ask a friend of mine.. I was thinking if I was going to have it done I would take it to S.A.C. here in Ohio.. I know he does good work. But 25 bucks compaired to what it would cost to have it done.. I was thinking if I did it myself I would ruin a good thing- haha
 
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Why mess with it. If it aint broke don't fix it. If you can shoot sub MOA with it as is ... then what's the problem? Getting into reloading would be more of an accuracy increase than just bedding .... if you are only shooting factory ammo right now. Some rifles need bedding ... some don't. It don't sound like your rifle "needs" it. But, there aint no harm in doing it ..... other than not being able to use that stock on any other rifle after bedding it.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hunting_Zombies</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I agree it won't hurt. I was just in that predicament a couple of weeks ago. Just got a B&C stock for my 700 and when I mounted it, the barrel was floating. It shot great too, but I kept thinking about bedding it and after reading wnroscoe's thread, I said fu@k it and decided to do it myself. Just following his instructions, the damn thing turned out pretty bad ass. Did it help? I think it did, my groups are a little smaller and a lot more consistent. Probably the biggest thing (for me at least) was the peace of mind. I'm sure it's mental but I feel more confident when I shoot now. Hope this helps!</div></div>

I will look up his thread- thanks
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Muttt</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why mess with it. If it aint broke don't fix it. If you can shoot sub MOA with it as is ... then what's the problem? Getting into reloading would be more of an accuracy increase than just bedding .... if you are only shooting factory ammo right now. Some rifles need bedding ... some don't. It don't sound like your rifle "needs" it. But, there aint no harm in doing it ..... other than not being able to use that stock on any other rifle after bedding it.</div></div>

I am reloading. Trying to be precise as I can. So far I have had good luck with my loads. Just trying to get better lol
 
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I’m a noob but can use some common sense. If you’re implying that the rifle is (ore might) shooting better than you are, then I would concentrate my efforts and money on the weakest link…..which would be you and not the rifle.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hunting_Zombies</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Probably the biggest thing (for me at least) was the peace of mind. I'm sure it's mental but I feel more confident when I shoot now.</div></div>

+1 Does the rifle shoot better because it is bedded or is the shooter shooting better because they think it will now that it is bedded? Might as well get it over with IMHO.
 
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i did notice one thing. after bedding my savage in the HS stock, i noticed that it sounded more solid and less hollow if that makes any sense. i didnt do much if any shooting before the bedding as i had the plan to do all i could from the start. read the three posts. there is one pinned and in it you will find the link to the three posts. after that if you have questions, read them again. and then ask if you are just unsure. i did mine and it was the first one i had ever done and it came out well
 
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I was in the same situation you are facing. But mine is a R700 Sort tac with B&C stock. Had it skim bedded and holy shit did my groups at long range tighten up. I think also any improvement that you do to create better accuracy is not a waist of time or money. no matter how it is shooting.
 
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I guess I will just bed it then.. I will ask a friend of mine if he will help me do it. He is good with that kind of stuff. I just didn't really know because of how good it was shooting- I guess I never heard of a rifle shooting worse after a good bedding job.. I don't want to sell myself short. I shoot pretty good but could use alot more practice for sure, and I plan on practicing. I will mainly concentrate on that- I just wanted my rifle to shoot as good as possible. So... thanks all
 
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Holy shit I can't believe some of the comments, "sounds different", "feels different", "I can't sleep at night without pissing myself", "I wake up with a bigger piss hardon now that my rifle is bedded"!!!!!

If the SOB shoots 1/2moa or less those that 'think' it can't end up worse don't have much bedding experience!!!!! Pretty easy to get a pressure point and can end up with vertical or horizontal stringing if not done right. Better yet glue that nice accurate barrel into the Mickey and then you know it isn't going anywhere! First off, you have to have enough experience to KNOW FOR A FACT that it is a bedding or rifle issue before you glob a bunch of shit into your stock without ever doing it before because someone else with the same or less experience on the internet typed that 'you should do it just because'!!! The internet sure as hell made almost everyone an expert that can read!

I know I am coming off as being a prick to those of you who will respond as such but damn, I get tired of all the "I think", "It should" and "I read" comments posted from those who usually know less than those asking.

Yea, I have some experience at bedding, probably over 100 different rifles/brands over the last 25+ yrs. I cannot 'guarantee' that a rifle will shoot any better accuracy wise after bedding nor 1/2 the time notice much of a difference in accuracy after being bedded. Most of my rifles are pillar bedded, a few of my pdog guns in factory wood stocks and even a couple of synthetics that shoot consistently under moa are not bedded and if I miss it damn sure isn't because of bedding issues. Either my dumb ass was not reading the wind right or I was being too lazy to pick up the Leica and range my target because "I thought" I knew how far it was. Oh, and I have worn out 1 Rockchucker and have 80K+ rounds of reloads under my belt so I am not a newbie.

So, my opinion, unless you know you can do it right buy ammo instead. Biggest issue is to assure a floating barrel, actions screws torqued even, a trigger that breaks consistent, free of parallax, proper technique on your part and consistent ammo. Then if you can't sleep at night, somebody told you to do it or whatever than I would spend the money to assure it is done right and is beneficial to accuracy, then with experience you will know whether or not what you spent or did helped or hurt!

To those who have read, heard, or think they know....keep your opinions to yourself cause telling me I am a dumb, stupid, arrogant prick isn't going to change my mind on bedding or even change my opinions on internet posters and how they learned what they think they did. I am typing this from experience, not from what I read.

Hope this helps those who were asking
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Respectfully,
Dennis
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SDWhirlwind</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Holy shit I can't believe some of the comments, "sounds different", "feels different", "I can sleep at night without pissing myself", "I wake up with a bigger piss hardon now that my rifle is bedded"!!!!!

If the SOB shoots 1/2moa or less those that 'think' it can't end up worse don't have much bedding experience!!!!! Pretty easy to get a pressure point and can end up with vertical or horizontal stringing if not done right. Better yet glue that nice accurate barrel into the Mickey and then you know it isn't going anywhere! First off, you have to have enough experience to KNOW FOR A FACT that it is a bedding or rifle issue before you glob a bunch of shit into your stock without ever doing it before because someone else with the same or less experience on the internet typed that 'you should do it just because'!!! The internet sure as hell made almost everyone an expert that can read!

I know I am coming off as being a prick to those of you who will respond as such but damn, I get tired of all the "I think", "It should" and "I read" comments posted from those who usually know less than those asking.

Yea, I have some experience at bedding, probably over 100 different rifles/brands over the last 25+ yrs. I cannot guarantee any better accuracy nor 1/2 the time notice much of a difference in accuracy after being bedded. Most of my rifles are pillar bedded, a few of my pdog guns in factory wood stocks and even a couple of synthetics are not bedded and if I miss it damn sure isn't because of bedding issues. Either my dumb ass not reading the wind right or being too lazy to pick up the Leica and range my target because "I thought" I knew how far it was. Oh, and I have worn out 1 Rockchucker and have 80K+ rounds of reloads under my belt so I am not a newbie.

So, my opinion, unless you know you can do it right buy ammo instead. Biggest issue is to assure a floating barrel, actions screws torqued even, a trigger that breaks consistent, free of parallax, proper technique on your part and consistent ammo. Then if you can't sleep at night, somebody told you to do it or whatever than I would spend the money to assure it is done right and is beneficial to accuracy, then with experience you will know whether or not what you spend or did helped or hurt!

To those who have read, heard, or think they know....keep your opinions to yourself cause telling me I am a dumb, stupid, arrogant prick isn't going to change my mind on bedding or even change my opinions on internet posters and how they learned what they think they did. I am typing this from experience, not from what I read.

Hope this helps those who were asking
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Respectfully,
Dennis</div></div>

Thanks Dennis, lol . I know I don't want to do it myself! The gun is GTG and so is the ammo. I have been working on good technique and form. I was just sitting here thinking and if I do have it done I will just take it to SAC. I know Mark does good work and it will be done right- and I would have a piece of mind that a professional did the bedding job- not me haha