Except the government (taxpayers) cover for their scam.
Yeap they aren't going to let this stuff collapse again. They will bail out the millionaires and billionaires if it means printing enough money to make them into quadrillionaires via inflation.
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Except the government (taxpayers) cover for their scam.
No dummies on those boards and in those C-suites. They just are completely focused on maximizing how much money they can put into their own pockets before the ship goes down. So they take high risk bets and make a lot of money during the good times and if things go bad they get a bailout and move on to another financial institution where the cycle repeats itself...Why on earth someone on that board didn't say 'guys we need to have a good chunk of short maturities to give us access to cash in case one of these VC's says they need $100m real quick'. I don't even have any securities licenses, but I'd have the sense to keep the lion's share in short maturity when I cater to cash hungry tech/VC clientele. This is just flipping common sense.....I do wonder if someone brought it up and was just overruled.. All of them can't be *that* dumb. I'm probably giving them way too much credit.
I should know better than giving the benefit of the doubt. Taking insane risk with OPM and consequences be dammed is the ivory tower way sometimes. I do wonder if that is why their risk manager left last April.....couldn't convince the board to alter their mix and said ok not going to be here for the end? I'm sure it will come out in the end with some kind of hearings.No dummies on those boards and in those C-suites. They just are completely focused on maximizing how much money they can put into their own pockets before the ship goes down. So they take high risk bets and make a lot of money during the good times and if things go bad they get a bailout and move on to another financial institution where the cycle repeats itself...
I should know better than giving the benefit of the doubt. Taking insane risk with OPM and consequences be dammed is the ivory tower way sometimes. I do wonder if that is why their risk manager left last April.....couldn't convince the board to alter their mix and said ok not going to be here for the end? I'm sure it will come out in the end with some kind of hearings.
Yea I don't like the way fiat currencies operate, but I can't run my business, life or have a retirement by bartering goats and chickens I need US Dollars.
Another component of the "Recession Matrix"...So when a lot more companies do a lot more downsizing and the fluffy HR jobs shrink even more, will we see more "career women" looking for saps to marry them?
We are approaching a time when "barter" will get more value than "USD's"... Every time a commodity is converted to USD's and the USD's buy another commodity there is a loss in the transaction. This is why the commodity traders are moving away from the Petrodollar.Yea I don't like the way fiat currencies operate, but I can't run my business, life or have a retirement by bartering goats and chickens I need US Dollars.
i really think they jumped on the low return "guaranteed" return to solidify the bank back thenWhy on earth someone on that board didn't say 'guys we need to have a good chunk of short maturities to give us access to cash in case one of these VC's says they need $100m real quick'. I don't even have any securities licenses, but I'd have the sense to keep the lion's share in short maturity when I cater to cash hungry tech/VC clientele. This is just flipping common sense.....I do wonder if someone brought it up and was just overruled.. All of them can't be *that* dumb. I'm probably giving them way too much credit....on the same token of why I shit canned Merrill Lynch in 2008 and started managing my own money.
I think there is some truth in what you are saying. BUT - this interest rate increase has been going on for some time now, they should have seen the warning signs much earlier and started taking action. This is where the issue is IMO.i really think they jumped on the low return "guaranteed" return to solidify the bank back then
being heavy in startups/information tech, cashflow was covering mistakes
biden spent too much too fast (we all knew he was going to spend heavy but not this much), and they got caught with their pants down when interest rates jumped
you cant go back to the board and say we want to sell our "previous" strat at a 8-10% loss, so my gut says they hoped they could ride it out
mob mentality took over and they got exposed
not malicious, just a bad plan
Very plausible and hard to know what the actual thought process was, but good points it could have just been thinking they weren't going to see an interest rate cycle like this one. As I look at some of the other 10k of stress tested banks none of them have such horribly misallocated cash when you look at their HTM vs equity. US Bank is interesting to look at even if they had to unload their entire HTM they'd have over $40b in equity. SIVB left zero margin for error in any capacity.i really think they jumped on the low return "guaranteed" return to solidify the bank back then
being heavy in startups/information tech, cashflow was covering mistakes
biden spent too much too fast (we all knew he was going to spend heavy but not this much), and they got caught with their pants down when interest rates jumped
you cant go back to the board and say we want to sell our "previous" strat at a 8-10% loss, so my gut says they hoped they could ride it out
mob mentality took over and they got exposed
not malicious, just a bad plan
Hey we all have to pick a path and follow it. I wish you well in your endeavors.We are approaching a time when "barter" will get more value than "USD's"... Every time a commodity is converted to USD's and the USD's buy another commodity there is a loss in the transaction. This is why the commodity traders are moving away from the Petrodollar.
A ship load of grain traded for a ship load of oil is a win / win deal.
no one said they were smart lolI think there is some truth in what you are saying. BUT - this interest rate increase has been going on for some time now, they should have seen the warning signs much earlier and started taking action. This is where the issue is IMO.
Accounts would be covered to $250K no matter what they did, bail out or not. Regular guy with >$250K in their account would be made whole. Any account with more than $250K wouldn't be screwed per se, but their deposits over $250K would then be tied to the liquidation of assets within' the bank, and then losses would be claimed and distributed through a court process, like bankruptcy. Secured lenders would get paid first, and eventually account holders would get maybe some of their money back, shareholders would be fighting just as hard for a piece of their losses back, but it could take years. If they let them burn, a bunch of businesses get fuckered. They don't get to make payroll, and ultimately end up closing, having to lay off staff. How many jobs were tied up within' that bank when you start looking downstream of just a single bank account? Bail them out and you save those jobs, prevent a wavering trust in the banking system, avoid a run on the banks, and politicians survive to another election where they will tout how fucking over the financial future of our children, and their children, was such great leadership on their part, and they are a great and worthy leader for saving us all.exactly, the financial strat they were using was "personal" not financial institution
but thats what you get when you only hire like-minded people on the board none of which had served in that capacity before
what a lot of people dont understand is that a bank is a business run by regular people, like every other business
because your desk sits in a bank doesn't make you any smarter
just like companies go out of business, banks can go out as well
2 sides of the coin;
1. bail them out so people dont lose money (250K and below)
2. let them burn and the clients get cooked (250k and above)
if you dont let them burn, there are no consequences for poor decisions
if you let them burn, the regular guy loses his money
sucks all the way around...but they were leaning woke with investments in europe so..let them burn
Those of us here saw this coming long ago. History repeatingno one said they were smart lol
i think their inaction was their undoing
the one thing ive learned over the years in business...and learned the hard way more than a few times
not making a decision/ stagnation is worse than making a half-assed decision
once your moving in a direction you cant pivot, if your standing still things only get worse as you not getting new information
they sat still like a deer in headlights and got hit by the car
In post-war Germany an American soldier could get a lot with American cigarettes, chocolate, whiskey and silk stockings. Human nature is the same everywhere and during any period of history. Technology is the only change.We are approaching a time when "barter" will get more value than "USD's"... Every time a commodity is converted to USD's and the USD's buy another commodity there is a loss in the transaction. This is why the commodity traders are moving away from the Petrodollar.
A ship load of grain traded for a ship load of oil is a win / win deal.
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hmmmmmm...
Yea I don't like the way fiat currencies operate, but I can't run my business, life or have a retirement by bartering goats and chickens I need US Dollars.
It’s not a theory! It happens every election cycle!Who wants to bet they'll prop up the sinking ship, and then 'allow' a conservative to win the 2024 election, and on their way out, pull out everything proving everything up, and as everything is going to shit, they're going to be on every news outlet saying "look what they did, it's all their fault! This is why you vote blue!"
It's a long shot for sure....but it's just a random theory.
Branden
It’s not a theory! It happens every election cycle!
Got to point it out for the slow people, like the ones that think their vote still counts.No shit.
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I agree completely. I'm still long America and if it does all go kaput in my lifetime I'll be like that guy on the back of the TITanic and then move on to my prepared plan B.Tons of countries have gone through inflationary periods and still use currency, it's not going away anytime soon.
Our monetary policy is based off printing tons of money and shoving it in the top in the hopes that enough will trickle down to keep the peasants from revolting. Of course the people at the top don't want to give up their money, and even when they completely fail at life they still get more money anyways so there's no incentive to do anything other than steal/hoard/fail over and over. Our entire Economy has become a cycle of pump-and-dump.
I am curious as to how much 'oil' is needed to plant, fertilize, harvest, and transport that amount of grain. IS a 'trade' an actual deal? Tractor's gotta run, too....We are approaching a time when "barter" will get more value than "USD's"... Every time a commodity is converted to USD's and the USD's buy another commodity there is a loss in the transaction. This is why the commodity traders are moving away from the Petrodollar.
A ship load of grain traded for a ship load of oil is a win / win deal.
Commerce has gone on since Biblical times. There were "Traders" 2,000 years and there was no USD's, no computers or satellites.I am curious as to how much 'oil' is needed to plant, fertilize, harvest, and transport that amount of grain. IS a 'trade' an actual deal? Tractor's gotta run, too....
Credit Suisse secures $54 billion lifeline as authorities rush to prevent global bank crisis
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biden spent too much too fast (we all knew he was going to spend heavy but not this much), and they got caught with their pants down when interest rates jumped
1000%The republicants passed the omnibus spending bill for the last two trillion. The republicants were also all for the COVID spending.
His name is on the regime and it was done while on his term but IIRC the debt in 08 was around 8 trillion. Now it's 32 trillion. 24 trillion dollars in 15 years is on the backs of both sides.
24 trillion dollars in 15 years is on the backs of both sides.
History has proven, at some point it becomes time to "Pay the Piper".That's been the attitude of America for the last 40 years. Spend spend spend without any regard for the future.

History has proven, at some point it becomes time to "Pay the Piper".
We're already paying the piper, people are just too dumb to realize it or they don't care because they already have theirs sort of thing.
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There is no question one of the reasons this country is where it is right now is due to ignorance. Politicians have and continue to prey upon the stupidity of the American electorate. The frog slowly boiling in lukewarm analogy. I've got 2 plans in place and I still don't know if that will be the answer should we see Old Testament events transpire. I hate the debasement of our currency and the irresponsible leadership of America across the board, but I realize how much I can control and what I can't. A very sickening time for America and the world. I'm not sure if I know anyone in the elite crowd who can afford not to care b/c they have so much it won't matter.We're already paying the piper, people are just too dumb to realize it or they don't care because they already have theirs sort of thing.
Our entire political system is designed to do this. The Federal reserve provides unlimited money to the government which then spends it to make politicians and the rich even richer. There is no reason for anyone inside the system to fix the problem and anyone outside the system (the rest of us) who gets uppity goes to jail or is killed. This charade will go on until the whole house of cards collapses and then a new batch of bastards will take over and the cycle will restart.There is no question one of the reasons this country is where it is right now is due to ignorance. Politicians have and continue to prey upon the stupidity of the American electorate. The frog slowly boiling in lukewarm analogy. I've got 2 plans in place and I still don't know if that will be the answer should we see Old Testament events transpire. I hate the debasement of our currency and the irresponsible leadership of America across the board, but I realize how much I can control and what I can't. A very sickening time for America and the world.