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So apparently the German server thing is real. LOL someone explain how that went down

Fair criticism ... I'm sorry for the broad categorization. I'm just very afraid for our democracy when I watch a sitting President calling Election Officials in a lost state, trying to convince them to delegitimize an election without any proof or evidence of wide-spread or materially impactful voting fraud.
Respectfully, one of the worst things we can do to each other is spread and share our fears. It’s demoralizing.
 
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Regarding gaining access to the servers, Jeffery Prather explained it here in his last video..... for me anyway.

He's not the best listen but he appears to have boots on the ground experience.

Video starts at 37:25

 
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Respectfully, one of the worst things we can do to each other is spread and share our fears. It’s demoralizing.
But it's OK to spread and share baseless and fully debunked conspiracy theories? I struggle with that, unless along with our "fears", you're suggesting we also stick to the "facts". If so, then I can embrace that perspective.
 
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Fair criticism ... I'm sorry for the broad categorization. I'm just very afraid for our democracy when I watch a sitting President calling Election Officials in a lost state, trying to convince them to delegitimize an election without any proof or evidence of wide-spread or materially impactful voting fraud.

Would you prefer our sitting president accept an illegitimate election and fraud so you'll be less scared?
 
But it's OK to spread and share baseless and fully debunked conspiracy theories? I struggle with that, unless along with our "fears", you're suggesting we also stick to the "facts". If so, then I can embrace that perspective.
debunked?


feel free to post the proof that anything i posted was debunked. i will wait.
 
debunked?


feel free to post the proof that anything i posted was debunked. i will wait.
Thanks for your patience.

 
Thanks for your patience.

hilarious! that is your proof? factcheck.org? hahahahahaha!


Editor’s note: FactCheck.org is one of several organizations working with Facebook to debunk misinformation shared on social media. Our previous stories can be found here.

here is the author:

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Thanks for your patience.

Did you even attempt to verify the legitimacy of that website? Annenberg Foundation? Facebook partner? They’re part of the problem.
 
Did you even attempt to verify the legitimacy of that website? Annenberg Foundation? Facebook partner? They’re part of the problem.
There are many many reputable sites that have debunked this "German Server" thing. With OAN and NewsMax as sources on the other side. Enough of my time burned on this. Let's just all watch as this unfolds, and see who is right. Like I said ... I like my chances. Time will tell.
 
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she's lying, right rusty?

Sidney Katherine Powell is an American attorney from North Carolina who served as an Assistant United States Attorney for 10 years before establishing her own private practice in Dallas, Texas
 
After Obama’s allowing about queries of his enemies on the NSA data base. I believe the NSA data base was put under DIA control. I could be wrong but that is what I remember.

Trump has got this.
 
let's just say i would believe her and not some liberal from oregon.
I'm actually a "centrist". My vote is "earned", not "assumed". I'm actually a fiscal conservative, and a social liberal. That said, I admit that I do love Oregon. It's a 2nd Amendment haven. The wall I want to build is the one on the Oregon-California border.
 
I'm actually a "centrist". My vote is "earned", not "assumed". I'm actually a fiscal conservative, and a social liberal. That said, I admit that I do love Oregon. It's a 2nd Amendment haven. The wall I want to build is the one on the Oregon-California border.
i'm sorry to say i think there is no such thing as "centrist" anymore. you are with us, or against us.
what part of trump's policies are you not on board with?
 
i'm sorry to say i think there is no such thing as "centrist" anymore. you are with us, or against us.
what part of trump's policies are you not on board with?
Sorry ... I reject that binary imposition. I get to decide what I am. That's what "really" makes America great.
 


she's lying, right rusty?

Sidney Katherine Powell is an American attorney from North Carolina who served as an Assistant United States Attorney for 10 years before establishing her own private practice in Dallas, Texas


You ask for evidence against what you are saying, then don’t hold yourself to the same standard. A quote from Powell that she “heard” servers are seized isn’t direct evidence. That would be hearsay, and it’s probably wise to not build a position on it.

Neither side of this discussion has any direct evidence either way, so getting upset and talking about it like there are facts present would be pointless.

Now a discussion on our hopes and mere speculation would be appropriate, but it would require people to leave their ego at the door and realize that they could be wrong. Attacking opposing ideas as if there is no way they could be correct, and trying to prove your side would be a fools errand. Being objective and open minded to both paths would be the prudent route.

I hope some flex linear charges were blown, people resisted and some barrel strikes were used to break their defense of the servers. I hope the DIA has it, and the whole fucking thing gets blown up across the globe. As of now, I won’t be holding my breath.
 
Sorry ... I reject that binary imposition. I get to decide what I am. That's what "really" makes America great.
of course you can, but answer the question.
if you don't like trump, you must support one of the following. which is it?

pedophilia and sex trafficking
drug trafficking and opioid overdoses
criminal aliens raping and killing innocent residents
high drug prices
endless wars
open borders
 
You ask for evidence against what you are saying, then don’t hold yourself to the same standard. A quote from Powell that she “heard” servers are seized isn’t direct evidence. That would be hearsay, and it’s probably wise to not build a position on it.

Neither side of this discussion has any direct evidence either way, so getting upset and talking about it like there are facts present would be pointless.

Now a discussion on our hopes and mere speculation would be appropriate, but it would require people to leave their ego at the door and realize that they could be wrong. Attacking opposing ideas as if there is no way they could be correct, and trying to prove your side would be a fools errand. Being objective and open minded to both paths would be the prudent route.

I hope some flex linear charges were blown, people resisted and some barrel strikes were used to break their defense of the servers. I hope the DIA has it, and the whole fucking thing gets blown up across the globe. As of now, I won’t be holding my breath.
i have never tried to present anything as "fact". i share and you decide.
i am still waiting for "proof" that anything i posted was debunked.
 
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You ask for evidence against what you are saying, then don’t hold yourself to the same standard. A quote from Powell that she “heard” servers are seized isn’t direct evidence. That would be hearsay, and it’s probably wise to not build a position on it.

Neither side of this discussion has any direct evidence either way, so getting upset and talking about it like there are facts present would be pointless.

Now a discussion on our hopes and mere speculation would be appropriate, but it would require people to leave their ego at the door and realize that they could be wrong. Attacking opposing ideas as if there is no way they could be correct, and trying to prove your side would be a fools errand. Being objective and open minded to both paths would be the prudent route.

I hope some flex linear charges were blown, people resisted and some barrel strikes were used to break their defense of the servers. I hope the DIA has it, and the whole fucking thing gets blown up across the globe. As of now, I won’t be holding my breath.
Not holding your breath with regard to the "German Server" thing ... is probably a really good strategy.
 
My vote is "earned"
Please................. do tell how has Biden & Kamala earned your vote?

I've got several very liberal friends, well educated, & intelligent. I've yet to get an explanation that could begin to square with their intellectual aptitude.

You described the Financial Times as centrist with right leanings. They may be a great resource for financial information, even better if the information is considered with full understanding of their bias. Everything has bias.

I think you & I have very different definitions of left, center, & right.

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i have never tried to present anything as "fact". i share and you decide.
i am still waiting for "proof" that anything i posted was debunked.

Just like we are waiting on anything you have posted to have any evidence beyond opinion based off of hearsay. Other side of the same coin.
 
Just like we are waiting on anything you have posted to have any evidence beyond opinion based off of hearsay. Other side of the same coin.
the difference is i am not calling anyone a liar or falsely claiming anything is "debunked", although i did laugh at some whoppers.
 
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Merkel has long since sold her soul to the devil, like many "leaders" in Europe. She was at the dedication/opening of the Gotthard Base tunnel (see attached). Convince me that what you are witnessing is not pure evil. There is also another outdoor ceremony, also held in Erstfeld later in the day that is even more bizarre. If I can find it, I will post it up. I am surprised that this video still exists on Y/T.


Here's the other one I mentioned. It's a real Doozy.........

 
Thanks for your patience.

I don't accuse them of stupidity. They are biased hacks though!

A quote from the server article I posted. "The US military was not in the lead."

So technically Factmanipulator.org could be correct that it wasn't a military operation & yet be completely wrong about the server logs being confiscated.
 
the difference is i am not calling anyone a liar or falsely claiming anything is "debunked", although i did laugh at some whoppers.

The onus of proof is with the initial claim that the event happened.


why did dominion lawyer up instead of testifying as they had agreed to?


Because there are people in our Government accusing them of wrong doing. Only a dipshit wouldn’t lawyer up.

Once again, I hope this is true, but a lot of logical leaps are being made.
 
The onus of proof is with the initial claim that the event happened.




Because there are people in our Government accusing them of wrong doing. Only a dipshit wouldn’t lawyer up.

Once again, I hope this is true, but a lot of logical leaps are being made.
if you look at the statistical anomalies, it seems pretty damning.
how does biden get so many votes when he only carried 16% of the counties?
how did he lose in 18/19 bell weather locations and still win the election?
how did he only outperform clinton in 5 metro areas, and get millions more votes than obama?
 
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I have a lot of "cautious optimism" about all of this.

It makes me sick to think that Biden and Harris are going to potentially head up the next administration. I think their platform and proposed policies are horrendous, though when you look and see who Biden is picking to be in his cabinet, I don't think much is really going to change. Just the same chrony corruption that our government has been pulling off for years. Though his threats of using a lot of executive orders on day #1 is not promising.

On the flip side, IF massive voter fraud was perpetrated and exposed, then what does that mean for our country? That's going to have huge ramifications, and will change this country forever. How does that get dealt with? How will we restore faith in our election process to the electorate?

Either way, I don't think the outcome is going to be great.
 
I have a lot of "cautious optimism" about all of this.

It makes me sick to think that Biden and Harris are going to potentially head up the next administration. I think their platform and proposed policies are horrendous, though when you look and see who Biden is picking to be in his cabinet, I don't think much is really going to change. Just the same chrony corruption that our government has been pulling off for years. Though his threats of using a lot of executive orders on day #1 is not promising.

On the flip side, IF massive voter fraud was perpetrated and exposed, then what does that mean for our country? That's going to have huge ramifications, and will change this country forever. How does that get dealt with? How will we restore faith in our election process to the electorate?

Either way, I don't think the outcome is going to be great.
be prepared.
 
Even if this coup succeds and Sniff/Blow end up back in positions they can use to steal money, the fraud was exposed.

The shit can't be put back in the horse.

However this plays out, the next four years are going to be a shit-show of epic proportion. With a republican controlled senate and a damn near 50/50 split house, Biden can expect multiple simultaneous and continuous investigations and impeachment efforts.

Hell, half the democrats believe the election was stolen. I'm gonna start buying my popcorn in gallon size tubs from Costco, because the shits-show is just getting started.

Both sides are learning from the other. Biden can expect to have absolutely nothing move through the house or senate, every EO blocked by a Trump appointed judge.

The republicans will very likely use MS Words replace feature on Pelosis quid-pro-quo canned impeachment. Replace "Trump" with "Biden", attach to a copy of the -aint gettin the billion dollars video- and fire that shit off to the senate.

Hopefully they dont ACTUALLY impeach him, (lezbo Harris is worse) but they'll surely use it to fuck with him so much he'll want to slit his wrists.
 
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if you look at the statistical anomalies, it seems pretty damning.
how does biden get so many votes when he only carried 16% of the counties?
how did he lose in 18/19 bell weather locations and still win the election?
how did he only outperform clinton in 5 metro areas, and get millions more votes than obama?

Damning and looking bad don’t mean shit. It’s what you can prove.

And that is why I’m pessimistic about the whole thing. Both sides of the isle belong to the same power structure set in place to keep themselves in power and to continually add to that power.

Just like the FISA investigations, nothing will be done. We will be strung along and told to just wait, it will happen. Durham is coming, people are going to jail.

Elections have been rigged since the first election was conceived. To think that the people are going to catch them red handed this time, and break down the corrupt power structure across the globe is laughable. we have been enslaved for so long, we really have no clue how strong our slave masters really are or what they even look like. Hell, most of us champion the side that enslaves us.
 
As far as proof, a good poker player keeps his cards hidden until all the betting is done and it's time to show em.
The case is being carefully built as we speak,

Trials are not conducted in the Libtard press, it would be foolish to present evidence before its time and allow the opposition to work on debunking it or creating another crisis to deflect.

We all KNOW that with the current election(s) and likely past ones, that the "fix" was in place. Dems don't care about you and me, just keeping their cash cows intact.

Once again, with cautious confidence, I believe the current results will be overturned in the Presidential election, and Donald J Trump will serve us for another 4 years. Sure , this is speculation on my part. I choose to be optimistic.
 
DIBBS:
"Once again, with cautious confidence, I believe the current results will be overturned in the Presidential election, and Donald J Trump will serve us for another 4 years. Sure , this is speculation on my part. I choose to be optimistic. "

And if he does, he needs to:
Break down the media propaganda that is controlled by the Democrats
Bring a voice and movement to squash and silence fake narratives like the extreme left agenda, ANTIFA, BLM and basically any communist movement in this country!
Run socialist out of politics.
If not we are doomed from here forward, we'll never be rid of these traitors!
 
Problem IMO there’s Republicans and Democrats alike, both left and right leaning, across the globe let alone in this country, that got elected through Dominion. Any of them that were in on the fraud, now has a vested interest in making sure Trump and the team loses and doesn’t uncover any evidence of what might have been going on behind the scenes.
Also, there was massive fraud on the vote counting side at the county levels on up.
 
Problem IMO there’s Republicans and Democrats alike, both left and right leaning, across the globe let alone in this country, that got elected through Dominion. Any of them that were in on the fraud, now has a vested interest in making sure Trump and the team loses and doesn’t uncover any evidence of what might have been going on behind the scenes.
Also, there was massive fraud on the vote counting side at the county levels on up.

Right!

Kemp... Romney...add infinitum...

How to tell who took the green wether red or blue..

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks"
 
As far as proof, a good poker player keeps his cards hidden until all the betting is done and it's time to show em.


Very true.


If you and I sit down at the poker table, I better be able to see you are at least holding cards. If you just tell me you heard someone dealt you some cards, but you aren’t holding them, but they are really good. Well that’s a nonstarter.
 
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