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So how does one deal with transfusions in the wake of Clot Shot

I guess one would have to define rare and apply a statistical range. My opinion (no medical validation) is the adverse occurrence is somewhere in-between "rare" and "everyone's going to die."
If you listen to a lot of so called experts in this field they will either tell you it's all perfectly safe, or the honest ones say that no one really knows and it's going to play out for years. That's the problem with trying to bring a vaccine to market in a matter of six months. Normally development is seven to ten years.
Several differences between getting jabbed and getting jabbed blood. This is coming from a regretfully jabbed MD here btw. Getting jabbed conscripts your body’s ribosomes by turning you into a GMO, like some Monsanto corn, to get your own body to make the spike protein. Being transfused with the blood of somebody like me should in theory present you only with a temporary load of spike protein, to which I suppose you should make antibodies to. It might actually give you the benefit of conveying an immune response, without the mRNA/adenovirus delivery vehicle/mechanism.

Autologous donation is very difficult to orchestrate, let alone family or relative donations. Also, with autologous, you have to donate well enough in advance of the need that your own erythropoietic system can make up for the donated blood. Otherwise you’re just getting back the blood you recently lost in the first place.

Most hospitals use some third party for blood products (we use blood assurance) and my experience is they are not very receptive to that level of coordination. You more or less get what you get.
And why regretfully?
 
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If you listen to a lot of so called experts in this field they will either tell you it's all perfectly safe, or the honest ones say that no one really knows and it's going to play out for years. That's the problem with trying to bring a vaccine to market in a matter of six months. Normally development is seven to ten years.

And why regretfully?
I wish I’d never taken it. I took the J&J when delta came through and we had several guys of my demographic dying in the ICU. I took the J&J because it was an older delivery system, had been used in canine rabies vaccines for years. I’ve had so many acquaintances with issues from it, practically all Pfizer or Moderna however, I keep waiting to wake up dead one morning.
 
I wish I’d never taken it. I took the J&J when delta came through and we had several guys of my demographic dying in the ICU. I took the J&J because it was an older delivery system, had been used in canine rabies vaccines for years. I’ve had so many acquaintances with issues from it, practically all Pfizer or Moderna however, I keep waiting to wake up dead one morning.

But, just think. In 10 or 20 years, you'll be able to claim victim status...if you live.
 
But, just think. In 10 or 20 years, you'll be able to claim victim status...if you live.
I am willing to bet that five minutes after a new Congress convenience there will be 24 seven lawyer ads on TV… Did you take a Covid vaccine you could be entitled to millions.

It will make the camp Lejeune scam look like small potatoes.

If I owned a law firm I would be gearing up right now to sue everyone to the absolute soles of their feet and leave the CDC and pharmaceutical industries gutted. While I buy a private island in the Caribbean.

The lawsuits are going to be epic.

Had I the foresight I would have jumped into some cut rate law school at the outbreak of Covid and be sitting pretty right now ready to just eviscerate everyone. Cheers
 
I wish I’d never taken it. I took the J&J when delta came through and we had several guys of my demographic dying in the ICU. I took the J&J because it was an older delivery system, had been used in canine rabies vaccines for years. I’ve had so many acquaintances with issues from it, practically all Pfizer or Moderna however, I keep waiting to wake up dead one morning.
No cardiac issues yet? I think that was one of the most serious issues with the J&J. If it has not presented itself yet then perhaps you are good? I was thinking the same thing, similar delivery and modality as a traditional vaccine using adenovirus, and possibly less risk then, but it turned out that the J&J had it's own set of various problems.

No way in hell I was going to become a spike protein production machine, there is very little data to suggest when that ever turns off, if ever? If I was you i'd get a workup, EKG, echocardiogram, MRI, maybe D-dimer, blood panel? If nothing yet then I would be satisfied and put at ease if it was me. Just a thought.
 
No cardiac issues yet? I think that was one of the most serious issues with the J&J. If it has not presented itself yet then perhaps you are good? I was thinking the same thing, similar delivery and modality as a traditional vaccine using adenovirus, and possibly less risk then, but it turned out that the J&J had it's own set of various problems.

No way in hell I was going to become a spike protein production machine, there is very little data to suggest when that ever turns off, if ever? If I was you i'd get a workup, EKG, echocardiogram, MRI, maybe D-dimer, blood panel? If nothing yet then I would be satisfied and put at ease if it was me. Just a thought.
Thankfully no. Unfortunately the J&J also uses your cellular machinery to make spike protein, so I am still a production machine. I just got it in my cells the old fashioned way, with a virus. As I listen to myself say it in my head as I type, my overwhelming thought is “idiot”.

As far as work up is concerned, the thing is, what could I do if it were positive. I just take my aspirin a day and pay my term life policy.
 
Thankfully no. Unfortunately the J&J also uses your cellular machinery to make spike protein, so I am still a production machine. I just got it in my cells the old fashioned way, with a virus. As I listen to myself say it in my head as I type, my overwhelming thought is “idiot”.

As far as work up is concerned, the thing is, what could I do if it were positive. I just take my aspirin a day and pay my term life policy.
Ah interesting, still production spike! I didn't know that was the case with the J&J.

fait accompli I guess. Fuck man, good luck. I would at least do a D-dimer just to build evidence. As an MD, I assume it was a requirement for employment.
 
Just had gall bladder removal. I was pleased that they could do it laparoscopically, as I wouldn't require a blood transfusion. In my AO they are always banging the drum for donations, citing serious shortage. If I had to guess, I would bet that blood banks treat donations as "fungible"; and even if you donated for your own use, you would get whatever is in the tank. God only knows how big of a tank that is. BTW: Still pureblood.
 
I am willing to bet that five minutes after a new Congress convenience there will be 24 seven lawyer ads on TV… Did you take a Covid vaccine you could be entitled to millions.

It will make the camp Lejeune scam look like small potatoes.

If I owned a law firm I would be gearing up right now to sue everyone to the absolute soles of their feet and leave the CDC and pharmaceutical industries gutted. While I buy a private island in the Caribbean.

The lawsuits are going to be epic.

Had I the foresight I would have jumped into some cut rate law school at the outbreak of Covid and be sitting pretty right now ready to just eviscerate everyone. Cheers

Good luck, blanket immunity.
 
An MD should know that mRNA has a very short half life, and thus, the amount of spike protein (encoded by that mRNA) in you blood stream is also transient. But, that transient load of spike protein revs up certain b-cells to make antibodies specific to the spike protein. But, it doesn’t surprise me that a MD would only have a cursory understanding of the immune system…

Additionally, neither you nor the mRNA in the ‘vaccine’ have a gene for a reverse transcriptase, so the vaccine is not integrating into your DNA.

Really, the amount of biochemical knowledge floating around here is staggering…
 
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An MD should know that mRNA has a very short half life, and thus, the amount of spike protein (encoded by that mRNA) in you blood stream is also transient. But, that transient load of spike protein revs up certain b-cells to make antibodies specific to the spike protein. But, it doesn’t surprise me that a MD would only have a cursory understanding of the immune system…

Additionally, neither you nor the mRNA in the ‘vaccine’ have a gene for a reverse transcriptase, so the vaccine is not integrating into your DNA.

Really, the amount of biochemical knowledge floating around here is staggering…
Not exactly, as well It's funny that someone should expect anything more than cursory knowledge of biochemistry on a gun forum. As stated earlier no one know's how long the body produces spike proteins for, could be months, could be year? Regardless of how they are produced spike proteins are the culprit in many of the vaccine injuries, this is the important point to consider.



"Researchers at Lund University in Malmö, Sweden, found that the mRNA vaccine enters human liver cells and triggers the cell’s DNA in the nucleus to increase the production of the LINE-1 gene expression to make mRNA. The whole process occurred rapidly, within six hours, concluded the study, which was published by the university’s Department of Clinical Sciences."
 
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An MD should know that mRNA has a very short half life, and thus, the amount of spike protein (encoded by that mRNA) in you blood stream is also transient. But, that transient load of spike protein revs up certain b-cells to make antibodies specific to the spike protein. But, it doesn’t surprise me that a MD would only have a cursory understanding of the immune system…

Additionally, neither you nor the mRNA in the ‘vaccine’ have a gene for a reverse transcriptase, so the vaccine is not integrating into your DNA.

Really, the amount of biochemical knowledge floating around here is staggering…
You expect a deep understanding of immunology on a gun forum? I’m speaking of course from my own anecdotal experience but I’ve had more friends die in their sleep in their 40s and 50s post vax than I’ve seen die from coronavirus.
 
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You expect a deep understanding of immunology on a gun forum? I’m speaking of course from my own anecdotal experience but I’ve had more friends die in their sleep in their 40s and 50s post vax than I’ve seen die from coronavirus.
No, but my waders ain’t tall enough for this thread…
 
It seems like there was a definite correlate for people getting strokes who were thereabouts a week or so out after any and all vaccines for the Rona. Speaking of people who had no business throwing blood clots, ie young, healthy, basically the ones you scratch your head trying to figure out how that happened. Then you find out there was a recent vaccination and it becomes clear.

To the OP, I don't know the answer, but suspect its a roll of the dice if you got a transfusion, just like anything else regarding covid. I wonder if some persons donated vax-tainted blood is potentially worse for you than anothers?

Also, if you were in a major trauma situation and needed blood, I have seen over 35 units of packed red blood cells, along with similar numbers of other types of blood products go in to saving one persons life in a very short amount of time during a single event. Theres so many individuals who had to contribute to those big ones I bet by the time they are done their vegetables dont smell the same to them anymore (joking).
 
So, ran across this awhile ago. Several claims it breaks down Covid as well as the mRNA spike vaccines.
Fact check, FDA, and ABC all attack it as crazy church cult toxin. Just like the "horse paste", so it probably works.
However, this site (haven't watched it) claims..
The science and story of Chlorine Dioxide. NASA proclaimed it a universal antidote in 1987. Since that time thousands have recovered from illness using this substance and now many physicians and scientists are saying it is powerfully effective for many applications.
The documentary explores the history, safety, and efficacy of the universal antidote and provides interviews with physicians and people who have used it.
http://www.sakshin.nl/the-universal-antidote-documentary-mms/
https://jimhumble.org/how-to-make-mms

You can buy it or make it yourself.
 
Given the fakery, covered-up effects, etc… they could get yanked in a second. And all it takes is the right judge(s) to rip that away and it’s game on.
Sirhr

Won't happen. The judge would either be paid off or end up committing suicide (not by choice). There is way too much money involved and those in power do not want exposed for their role.
 
Given the fakery, covered-up effects, etc… they could get yanked in a second. And all it takes is the right judge(s) to rip that away and it’s game on.
Sirhr
I think they are covered by the blanket immunity for any vaccine related injuries. But what about the fraud involved, the deceptive marketing, the pay to play, hiding testing research data, etc. I think they have a lot of still exposed liabilities that could be used to crush these companies along with the hospitals and any other related parties.

However I think it's a risky case to take on in the USA as the current administration appears to be more than willing to use any and all powers available to the government to crush any dissent.
 
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Won't happen. The judge would either be paid off or end up committing suicide (not by choice). There is way too much money involved and those in power do not want exposed for their role.
Meh… have you seen how much money there is in scam lawsuits? Lawyers become billionaires overnight on the right scam lawsuit.

You have to be human to get deterred by the thought of death. Lawyers don’t qualify.

I’ll bet you a dollar we see first suits within a year!

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I was looking to see if there was a market for my unvaxed blood and I found that. Seems like I'm not allowed to sell my blood, just the plasma.
Too bad though... Could use the extra cash for primers and other goodies..

I'm planning on selling my pureblood sperm to barren chicks who can't have kids anymore because the vack fucked up their ovaries.
 
Read to the bottom and…

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Didn't a lot of people get AIDS back in the 80's from blood transfusions?
Then they stopped homosexuals from donating to stop it?
Yes and HCV prior to that in the 70’s. In fact, current recommendations are universal screening for chronic HCV infection at least once for all adults. I’m not convinced that’s necessary but if you’re already getting blood work from your PCP and insurance is paying for it then might as well. Definitely if you have any risk factors.
Sirhr is correct, in the future there could potentially be problems if one or several of the vax turn out to have long term consequences.
 
Right, but I believe there have been payouts due to harm so would a court just advocate for the individual to go through this program?
Short term… but if the cases keep piling up and evidence comes out (perhaps in congressional hearings in 2023) that the whole thing was a scam… or that execs covered up data. Or that the CDC was taking orders from teachers unions, not doctors…

Then the floodgates will open. Lawyers should already be smelling blood in the water.

Bet the Infomercials are already being scripted…

Sirhr
 
Short term… but if the cases keep piling up and evidence comes out (perhaps in congressional hearings in 2023) that the whole thing was a scam… or that execs covered up data. Or that the CDC was taking orders from teachers unions, not doctors…

Then the floodgates will open. Lawyers should already be smelling blood in the water.

Bet the Infomercials are already being scripted…

Sirhr

I'm in the boat that these Pharma companies saw a cash cow, got blanket immunity and rushed through this vaccine. While I don't think it was a scam I do think they circumvented some protocols.

They were basically "ordered" by the government to push this vaccine through and do so quickly. I don't think they had any issue doing so (declining eithics). I just don't see it playing out the way you have outlined based on the role our government played in getting this vaccine pushed through (rushed).
 
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I'm in the boat that these Pharma companies saw a cash cow, got blanket immunity and rushed through this vaccine. While I don't think it was a scam I do think they circumvented some protocols.

They were basically "ordered" by the government to push this vaccine through and do so quickly. I don't think they had any issue doing so (declining eithics). I just don't see it playing out the way you have outlined based on the role our government played in getting this vaccine pushed through (rushed).
One year from now we'll see what's happened... I'll even frame the dollar before sending it to you ;-)

Cheers,

Sirhr
 
Follow the money. Plain and simple, HUUUUUGE cash cow. THAT's what it was all about... oh and stealing an election.

I hope Pfizer etal are all bankrupted... sooner rather than later.

Carry on....
 
I hope you are right. They have done irreparable harm to the scientific community.
The "Scientific" community lost all their credibility when the jumped, lock, stock and barrel on the "Climate Change" hoax and sold out any vestige of 'scientific method' or actual research in order to get endless funding dollars from the Green Socialist Mafia. Science is currently going to the highest bidder while being pounded into the ground by the woke mob who will destroy your life if you don't go along with the "Settled Science."

Settled, you know. Like Eugenics. That was settled, too! Settled right into how many dead, experimented-on and gassed over a theory that was all about population control, not science.

Science -- delivering the results that funding demands since Earth Day 1990... There is no more science. Just religion hiding behind lab coats and test tubes. Druidism... and a death cult... all fronted by poor polar bears and rain forests. They would kill off 7 billion people if they had the chance. They're like Jim Jones or Om Shin Rikyo on steroids.

Sirhr
 
If anyone wants some good 'in-car' listening or some background noise in the reloading room, this is actually an interesting 'lecture' or documentary or whatever it is.



Very interesting history. And while I have not delved into sources or facts... there is not a lot I can dispute in this. Then again, maybe it just appeals to my world view? That the Eugenics and Democrat movements are inexorably linked in a world where they want total control of nature and the human condition.

Cheers,

Sirhr
 
The "Scientific" community lost all their credibility when the jumped, lock, stock and barrel on the "Climate Change" hoax and sold out any vestige of 'scientific method' or actual research in order to get endless funding dollars from the Green Socialist Mafia. Science is currently going to the highest bidder while being pounded into the ground by the woke mob who will destroy your life if you don't go along with the "Settled Science."

Settled, you know. Like Eugenics. That was settled, too! Settled right into how many dead, experimented-on and gassed over a theory that was all about population control, not science.

Science -- delivering the results that funding demands since Earth Day 1990... There is no more science. Just religion hiding behind lab coats and test tubes. Druidism... and a death cult... all fronted by poor polar bears and rain forests. They would kill off 7 billion people if they had the chance. They're like Jim Jones or Om Shin Rikyo on steroids.

Sirhr

Some within the scientific community lost their credibility not all. There are still a lot of great things happening in the scientific community and a lot of us still have our ethics/morals in tact. Try not to paint with a wide brush.
 
Some within the scientific community lost their credibility not all. There are still a lot of great things happening in the scientific community and a lot of us still have our ethics/morals in tact. Try not to paint with a wide brush.
Fair enough... So how much fun IS it getting funded if your science is not supporting the Global Warming hoax?

Just wondering...

Sirhr
 
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Fair enough... So how much fun IS it getting funded if your science is not supporting the Global Warming hoax?

Just wondering...

Sirhr

It's not really a hoax but the way they obtained and presented the data was unethical. Also, funding is not difficult to come by. Industrially, an effort to reduce waste is usually enough to get funding.

Due to the current market; most companies fund the projects themselves as it allows for a more marketable product. The demand comes from the consumer that is more eco conscious now than in previous years.
 
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In case anyone missed it...

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The criminally indicted Pfizer, who holds the record for the single largest fine in the history of pharmaceuticals for fraudulent marketing had this to say in their Q1 2022 earnings report......

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They also made $13.2 BILLION off their experimental MRNA poison, had a 41% growth in their cardiomyopathy "medicine" and made a further $1.8 BILLION off blood thinners...

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Hang them all.
 
Buddy and I were discussing this question...

What is the status of the nation's blood supply in the wake of everyone getting a clot shot and dropping over dead? In theory, anyone donating blood who has taken a vax is now 'infected' with vaccine. Their choice... fine, I get it.

But what happens if someone who is not willing to accept an experimental and dangerous vaccine that is killing people at an extraordinary rate... who needs a transfusion? In a medical emergency, is one going to get an arm full of blood that is swimming with things?

I'm not a medical professional, so I have no idea whether the blood supply puts the un-vaccinated at risk? Is there a way to request blood from non-vaxxed individuals? Are they even allowed to donate blood any more?

It's something I never thought of or heard discussed during all this crap. So what is the science? What are the concerns? How does it all work?

Cheers,

Sirhr

PS. I am on the "Can't give blood" list because I spent too much time overseas. And the one that is hilarious is... "Too much time living in England during Mad Cow Disease." Seriously. So, there ya go. Maybe I should get a couple of gallons of my own blood drawn and frozen? At least I'll know where it came from!! ;-)
Sirhr - I'm having a repair done to my abdominal aorta 9/26. I stipulated that I want only my blood used for transfusion. My surgeon and his staff never had this request made before, but the readily agreed. St. Lukes - Milwaukee is a huge Cardio vascular center and they have to send me to a separate organization to take and process my blood a few days in advance of my surgery. They can't do it in house - don't know why.
 
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In addition to getting the spike protein from a blood transfusion, I wondered if you could get infected with VAIDS or get spike proteins in your system by having un-protected sex with a vaccinated lady?
 
The criminally indicted Pfizer, who holds the record for the single largest fine in the history of pharmaceuticals for fraudulent marketing had this to say in their Q1 2022 earnings report......

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They also made $13.2 BILLION off their experimental MRNA poison, had a 41% growth in their cardiomyopathy "medicine" and made a further $1.8 BILLION off blood thinners...

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Hang them all.
Yeah, they induced heart issues and blood clotting with the vaccines, and then turned around and sold heart and blood thinning medication, monsters.

I hope my cousin who lost her mom to a bloodclot to the brain fucking sues the shit out of them when the chance arises. It's infuriating!
 
Perhaps a better question is how many people in their lifetime realistically need to be given blood?

Unless you're in a BAD fucking accident or suffering from some kind of combat wound I don't imagine it's all that many.

Not saying I would want dirty vax blood but what position to argue are you in at that point? Go into hypovolemic shock and die or hope for the best?

It's like finding a tumor in your brain and removing it means you'll never walk again, well... which is it? I'd say get the ice cream scooper out and get it the fuck out of there and buy me a cool wheel chair.

I can still hug my wife and pet my dogs in a wheelchair. You can't do shit from the inside of a casket covered in six feet of dirt 🤷🏼‍♂️
 
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Agent orange, anthrax vax, water at Camp Lejune and a few others.
How long did it take for the government to own up to those? I won't hold my breath for the just us system and the government to do the right thing.
 
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It's like finding a tumor in your brain and removing it means you'll never walk again, well... which is it? I'd say get the ice cream scooper out and get it the fuck out of there and buy me a cool wheel chair.

At my age...make the most of the time I have left and "Rejoice and be glad because my reward in Heaven is great.
 
An MD should know that mRNA has a very short half life, and thus, the amount of spike protein (encoded by that mRNA) in you blood stream is also transient. But, that transient load of spike protein revs up certain b-cells to make antibodies specific to the spike protein. But, it doesn’t surprise me that a MD would only have a cursory understanding of the immune system…

Additionally, neither you nor the mRNA in the ‘vaccine’ have a gene for a reverse transcriptase, so the vaccine is not integrating into your DNA.

Really, the amount of biochemical knowledge floating around here is staggering…
This is all correct. Not mentioned is the fact that if you are not vaccinated and you get infected by the virus, the viral mRNA is expressed in your cells and directs the production of viral proteins (including the spike protein). The vaccine mRNA has the same coding sequence as the original viral mRNA.
 
Could this be because they were made by the same company?
Anybody was able to make the vaccine in 2 days once the viral genome sequence was published. Fwiw I happen to be a PhD biochemist. I’ve worked with RNA for decades and did research in the past on virus-host receptor interactions. It’s depressing to have witnessed how fucked up the CDC and public health response has been on a lot of levels. About the only thing that went well is the development of the vaccine. So far, it’s very clear that complication rate from the vaccine is a tiny fraction of that from being infected with covid despite what TikTok says. That said I don’t think anyone should be coerced into taking it. A lot of people died on respirators regretfully asking if they could still get the vaccine.

I don’t think Pfizer or Moderna had anything to do with the virus origin- the program to make a vaccine (that Trump funded) was unprecedented and successful.

But the question of whether the virus came from a lab is definitely open. Personally I think odds are good that it was a human-engineered virus, mostly because of the presence of a fishy sequence in the viral genome that was previously absent in this class of coronavirus. This sequence is a cleavage site that makes the virus much more efficient at replication. There were labs in the US and China that were focused on introducing novel cleavage sites and on making mutant viruses for research, well-meaning if misguided research. If this is what happened, it wasn’t necessarily a conspiracy to infect the world. I’ve seen a lot of shit accidentally spilled in bisafety cabinets.

But you don’t need to get your conspiracy and science theories from TikTok. Here is a letter in the proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, a respected science journal that summarizes some questions about the origin of the virus.

 
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