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So we are going to turn a country upside down over .000000126%

SilentStalkr

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    So, the amount of deaths associated with so called assault weapons last year was about 440 out of a country with 350,000,000 people. That’s .000000126%. I’d say that’s pretty damn low considering we are the most armed country in the world. Please take a moment to send that to all your reps immediately. Use that as a backer for your argument. @lowlight this can be the start of a good letter. Links to some stats below:



    PS I’m getting really tired of having to do this!
     
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    Preventable medical malpractice alone accounts for roughly 225,000 deaths each year. And I am not even sure if the shit that goes on in VA facilities are counted along with this number... People are noticing, and they remember. And then you got the envirofreaks and how many people they have bankrupted or driven out of business?

    If those gun ban extremists do trigger outright violence across this country, it will not just involve gun rights anymore. A lot, and I mean A LOT of other shit is going to get fixed, and a lot of grievances WILL be settled. From public to private to intimate. EVERYTHING will be settled. What these fucking freaks do not realize is that the triggering of an insurrection will be their own absolute worst nightmares. The only thing that is protecting these motherfuckers from outright vendetta and old school Wild West posse action is the thin veneer of the resemblance of "law and justice" that we still have.

    I hope these faggots who are the most vocal about seizing "assault rifles" realize what scale of Pandora's box that they are going to open once they cross an uncrossable line.
     
    Preventable medical malpractice alone accounts for roughly 225,000 deaths each year. And I am not even sure if the shit that goes on in VA facilities are counted along with this number... People are noticing, and they remember. And then you got the envirofreaks and how many people they have bankrupted or driven out of business?

    If those gun ban extremists do trigger outright violence across this country, it will not just involve gun rights anymore. A lot, and I mean A LOT of other shit is going to get fixed, and a lot of grievances WILL be settled. From public to private to intimate. EVERYTHING will be settled. What these fucking freaks do not realize is that the triggering of an insurrection will be their own absolute worst nightmares. The only thing that is protecting these motherfuckers from outright vendetta and old school Wild West posse action is the thin veneer of the resemblance of "law and justice" that we still have.

    I hope these faggots who are the most vocal about seizing "assault rifles" realize what scale of Pandora's box that they are going to open once they cross an uncrossable line.

    I don’t think they will seize anything but I can totally see them trying to ban the production, sale of so called AWs. Tight regs on any grandfathered items, may hans and so forth. If Trump signs it, it will be political suicide but maybe he doesn’t care. And if he does the deed will be done and you know as well as I do it won’t be walked back. Or maybe we are all getting worked up for nothing, but I’d rather be one that tried to do something. And if anyone thinks it won’t oass need I remind you if when it passed in the 90’s when I was a kid and my parents gen rolled over and took it. Nothing happened and I doubt anything will now.
     
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    Just look at the insane huge push over "Transgender" stuff both here and in Canada and Europe.
    A truly tiny statistically insignificant portion of the population.

    But they want to uproot all customs, rewrite the language, redefine science, arrest people for wrongthink over the supposed feelings of a tiny amount of people.
     
    440 includes all types of rifles I believe. Also all types of "reasons" leading up tot he murder. Such as domestic violence, robbery, gangs.

    What people fear is a random person, in a random place shooting random people and that number was 85, of which some could have been hand guns.

    The FBI collects data on “active shooter incidents,” which it defines as “as one or more individuals actively engaged in killing or attempting to kill people in a populated area.” Using the FBI’s definition, 85 people – excluding the shooters – died in such incidents in 2018.
     
    Just look at the insane huge push over "Transgender" stuff both here and in Canada and Europe.
    A truly tiny statistically insignificant portion of the population.

    But they want to uproot all customs, rewrite the language, redefine science, arrest people for wrongthink over the supposed feelings of a tiny amount of people.
    The key word in that second sentence is "INSIGNIFICANT".......

    on a grand scale. In a huge manner. And yet look at the narrative. It is everywhere, and practically NOBODY else asked for it. So is the next step 'for the masses' to "learn" them, once-and-for-all, or to "erradicate" them into 'inconsequentialismness'..... for the good of mankind?

    (not sure of the wording to use, but the intent I'm trying to say is "they don't matter" not suggesting 'mass-murder')
     
    440 includes all types of rifles I believe. Also all types of "reasons" leading up tot he murder. Such as domestic violence, robbery, gangs.

    What people fear is a random person, in a random place shooting random people and that number was 85, of which some could have been hand guns.

    The FBI collects data on “active shooter incidents,” which it defines as “as one or more individuals actively engaged in killing or attempting to kill people in a populated area.” Using the FBI’s definition, 85 people – excluding the shooters – died in such incidents in 2018.

    It is. The FBI doesn’t distinguish what type of rifle just that it’s a long gun, could be half that number to be honest. That’s kind of my point, no matter how you look at it it’s mathematically nothing.
     
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    Just look at the insane huge push over "Transgender" stuff both here and in Canada and Europe.
    A truly tiny statistically insignificant portion of the population.

    But they want to uproot all customs, rewrite the language, redefine science, arrest people for wrongthink over the supposed feelings of a tiny amount of people.


    This is spot on. The left/Democrats always managed to the exception instead of the rule. It’s just another population control technique.
     
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    Who owns the media???

    Just look at the insane huge push over "Transgender" stuff both here and in Canada and Europe.
    A truly tiny statistically insignificant portion of the population.

    But they want to uproot all customs, rewrite the language, redefine science, arrest people for wrongthink over the supposed feelings of a tiny amount of people.
    The key word in that second sentence is "INSIGNIFICANT".......

    on a grand scale. In a huge manner. And yet look at the narrative. It is everywhere, and practically NOBODY else asked for it. So is the next step 'for the masses' to "learn" them, once-and-for-all, or to "erradicate" them into 'inconsequentialismness'..... for the good of mankind?

    (not sure of the wording to use, but the intent I'm trying to say is "they don't matter" not suggesting 'mass-murder')
    It is. The FBI doesn’t distinguish what type of rifle just that it’s a long gun, could be half that number to be honest. That’s kind of my point, no matter how you look at it it’s mathematically nothing.
    This is spot on. The left/Democrats always managed to the exception instead of the rule. It’s just another population control technique.
     
    dems refused to allow gang members in their red flag laws.
    they don't want to end gun violence, they want to take guns from law abiding citizens that might not agree with their socialist agenda.
     
    dems refused to allow gang members in their red flag laws.
    they don't want to end gun violence, they want to take guns from law abiding citizens that might not agree with their socialist agenda.
    Link or info?
     
    Link or info?

    or if you prefer more "mainstream" sources....

     
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    In my youth I had to do duck and cover because of the Soviet threat. Now it’s just Americans killing Americans . Check that demographic.
     
    Ive seen these stats before. Usually, the total includes all deaths. Suicides, accidents, police shootings, defensive, and of course murders.

    So is this 440 total deaths by rifles? Or murders only?
     
    I don’t think they will seize anything but I can totally see them trying to ban the production, sale of so called AWs. Tight regs on any grandfathered items, may hans and so forth. If Trump signs it, it will be political suicide but maybe he doesn’t care. And if he does the deed will be done and you know as well as I do it won’t be walked back. Or maybe we are all getting worked up for nothing, but I’d rather be one that tried to do something. And if anyone thinks it won’t oass need I remind you if when it passed in the 90’s when I was a kid and my parents gen rolled over and took it. Nothing happened and I doubt anything will now.

    Wow....I didn't figure you for a whippersnapper ?

    Listen kid.....I get you. I like a lot of your stuff here, and agree with a lot of it, and hope you are wrong on some.

    I was there, and in possession of my first AR. I was hunting with an AR back then using the old 70gr Barnes Original, when it wasn't popular.
    Those were galvanizing events. Lots of folks like me aren't forgetting how these events are playing out. Folks my age are now wide awake, and know that each tick of the ratchet gets more dangerous.
    There wasn't a line drawn. Everyone knew it was a sundown law. It was wait and see. As soon as the law died, the market exploded.

    It's a different time, and a new generation of kids like you are passionate about the 2A. I'm proud of you all for that. Meanwhile old guys like me have been gaining mileage, and wisdom. If they grab hard enough for that brass ring, some of us old guys might surprise you.

    93-94 wasn't a critical mass event. With all the RFLs they are pushing, the wheels are bound to come off if they push it too far.

    Some of us are quiet. Doesn't mean we ain't taking notes.
     
    Some of us are quiet. Doesn't mean we ain't taking notes.

    Ain't that the truth...taking names and making lists around your AO is about as important a job as you can do.

    @SilentStalkr

    Your mistake is trying to apply logic to this situation. Stop it! Logic is not in play. You are listening to the rhetoric and saying that the percentage makes no sense. IT DOESN'T

    The reality is this has zero to do with everyone's safety from maniacs. It has everything to do with disarming you and people like you and me so that the Government can trash the COTUS and remake America into what their distorted fucking image is...

    Despots always tell you what they are going to do, the victims never listen.

    Let that sink in DEEP
     
    Wow....I didn't figure you for a whippersnapper ?

    Listen kid.....I get you. I like a lot of your stuff here, and agree with a lot of it, and hope you are wrong on some.

    I was there, and in possession of my first AR. I was hunting with an AR back then using the old 70gr Barnes Original, when it wasn't popular.
    Those were galvanizing events. Lots of folks like me aren't forgetting how these events are playing out. Folks my age are now wide awake, and know that each tick of the ratchet gets more dangerous.
    There wasn't a line drawn. Everyone knew it was a sundown law. It was wait and see. As soon as the law died, the market exploded.

    It's a different time, and a new generation of kids like you are passionate about the 2A. I'm proud of you all for that. Meanwhile old guys like me have been gaining mileage, and wisdom. If they grab hard enough for that brass ring, some of us old guys might surprise you.

    93-94 wasn't a critical mass event. With all the RFLs they are pushing, the wheels are bound to come off if they push it too far.

    Some of us are quiet. Doesn't mean we ain't taking notes.

    There is probably a lot about me that would surprise you, aside from just being a young whippersnapper. Lmao.
     
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    This is not about stats. The government wants US disarmed. End of discussion. They (The Oligarchy/Establishment owned and operated Government) can't proceed with The Final Solution (fleece trillions out of our savings, retirement, college funds, IRA, etc) until they disarm US.

    VooDoo
     
    This is not about stats. The government wants US disarmed. End of discussion. They (The Oligarchy/Establishment owned and operated Government) can't proceed with The Final Solution (fleece trillions out of our savings, retirement, college funds, IRA, etc) until they disarm US.

    VooDoo

    Well, I suppose they could do that before disarming us lol.
     
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    This is not about stats. The government wants US disarmed. End of discussion. They (The Oligarchy/Establishment owned and operated Government) can't proceed with The Final Solution (fleece trillions out of our savings, retirement, college funds, IRA, etc) until they disarm US.

    VooDoo

    yup. we are already being taxed without representation.
    most of the democrat voters pay little to no income taxes, so they don't care how much the government steals from us.
     
    yup. we are already being taxed without representation.
    most of the democrat voters pay little to no income taxes, so they don't care how much the government steals from us.

    The masses on the dole are no longer satisfied with the the milk from the sacred cow(middle class) and are screaming to be fed steak.
    You may have noticed.....the politicians are drawing portions on our still living carcass.