Well let you in the club if you build that clone
Well let you in the club if you build that clone
Such steep entry fees for the president of the poors clubWell let you in the club if you build that clone
I created a thread regarding a Remington 700 that I saw offered for sale. Several Hide members objected and suggested that I buy a Tikka instead. So I've created this thread so the other thread doesn't wander off topic.
I'm moving from an Armalite AR10 to a bolt action looking for tighter groups and less weight. Uses: Target shooting. Bench shooting. Intermediate range. High precision fun shooting. This will be a .308 because I have FAR too much invested in that caliber and I'm not starting over.
I'm a little gun shy on the Tikka b/c all I see online are a bunch of cherry-picked is 3-shot groups. I can't get a feel for whether the Super Varmint can hold a group for shots 5 - 10 in slow fire. Increased dispersion is my concern.
I like the CTR 10rd magazine, but the stock seems cheap. I like the Super Varmint slightly heavier barrel but don't care for the thin magazine. And there have been some reports of the SV having a rough internal receiver. So, is the Tikka a tack driver, and will it hold a group for more than 3 shots? LOL!
Tikkas are well-made and shoot. His 10-rd groups are not unique. But for some reason the barrels are slow. I wish someone could explain why….Thanks for posting 10 shot groups. Very compelling argument for the Tikka.
If I had to reason, I would say it’s because of the extremely long freebore. These barrels are only slow with factory ammo because of how far the bullet has to jump to the rifling. Lots of room to bleed off pressure. Hand loaders can load them out while adding in the powder to get the pressures up and voilá, slow no more but just as precise.Tikkas are well-made and shoot. His 10-rd groups are not unique. But for some reason the barrels are slow. I wish someone could explain why….
Well I'll be Fuhqed.24 shot group with a factory 700 5R Milspec .308… Had I not rushed the last shot (far right pull), it would have been sub-MOA..
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That’s amazing. Kudos to the shooterWell I'll be Fuhqed.
24 shots into 3/4 MOA, I'm impressed. You're one of the few who I'd be happy to say have a true sub MOA rifle 95% of the time.
Such a breath of fresh air. I'm completely over the bullshit 3 & 5 shot good group proclamation.
ThanksThat’s amazing. Kudos to the shooter
If you haven't seen it already, here's an entire thread devoted to 10-round groups from Tikkas: https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/show-your-tikka-ten-round-groups.172391/I'm a little gun shy on the Tikka b/c all I see online are a bunch of cherry-picked is 3-shot groups. I can't get a feel for whether the Super Varmint can hold a group for shots 5 - 10 in slow fire. Increased dispersion is my concern.
There's a 24" 6.5CM Tikka T3X CTR in a KRG Bravo for sale in the PX for $1200. If I had to buy a budget, production rifle to upgrade with a few parts it would end up just like this one. And I only own one factory centerfire action anymore these days and it's a T3.I created a thread regarding a Remington 700 that I saw offered for sale. Several Hide members objected and suggested that I buy a Tikka instead. So I've created this thread so the other thread doesn't wander off topic.
I'm moving from an Armalite AR10 to a bolt action looking for tighter groups and less weight. Uses: Target shooting. Bench shooting. Intermediate range. High precision fun shooting. This will be a .308 because I have FAR too much invested in that caliber and I'm not starting over.
I'm a little gun shy on the Tikka b/c all I see online are a bunch of cherry-picked is 3-shot groups. I can't get a feel for whether the Super Varmint can hold a group for shots 5 - 10 in slow fire. Increased dispersion is my concern.
I like the CTR 10rd magazine, but the stock seems cheap. I like the Super Varmint slightly heavier barrel but don't care for the thin magazine. And there have been some reports of the SV having a rough internal receiver. So, is the Tikka a tack driver, and will it hold a group for more than 3 shots? LOL!
There's a 24" 6.5CM Tikka T3X CTR in a KRG Bravo for sale in the PX for $1200. If I had to buy a budget, production rifle to upgrade with a few parts it would end up just like this one. And I only own one factory centerfire action anymore these days and it's a T3.
I don't know if we're looking at the same one. I don't think there's any truing to do to a T3X. Some people just like to customize shitWhy would the seller have the action trued by Preece Precision? Was that necessary due to the re-chamber? I thought the Tikka bolts were the 'bee's knees' and buttery smooth? Why would you go through the expense of a fluted LRI bolt and M16 extractor?
Bolt is a LRI bolt. Fluted, M16 extractor, sterk handle.
Hey that’s my rifle you’re talking about lolWhy would the seller have the action trued by Preece Precision? Was that necessary due to the re-chamber? I thought the Tikka bolts were the 'bee's knees' and buttery smooth? Why would you go through the expense of a fluted LRI bolt and M16 extractor?
Bolt is a LRI bolt. Fluted, M16 extractor, sterk handle.
And everyone of those smiths is dogshit In my experience including proof house chambered barrels. I have first hand horror stories for each of them and a ton of 2nd hand ones. A competent machinist/ smith who measures and indicates correctly each time would see the variance and know something is wrong.But more Smith's will. Proof, Carbon Six, PVA. IDK, kinda sounds like the Keystone/ John - Zermatt Origin drama.
You think you know something I don't. And you think you've been doing this longer than I have. And you think you hang with a crowd I don't. And you're wrong.People speak with their wallet. There no conspiracy theory when barrels shoot like shit because proof cant make a consistent bore barrel nor can they chamber a barrel without runnout. Some of the most respected smiths in the country refuse to use proof barrels for this reason (Call Dave Warner of Warner tool up and ask him about proof if you got an hour to burn) . I got 3 of them and about to have a 4th spun up for a cheap tikka build (ironically) because i know the smith will warranty it if it doesn't shoot, He is doing the chamber work and im getting the barrel at cost. My proof chambered barreled can barely hold 1 moa with BH, berger or federal factory ammo. Luckily its a trainer barrel.
Come shoot some matches and ask the boys about PVA. I thought I was hard on them, the cats here in PVA's backyard are BRUTAL. Hell one even became a smith after getting burned multiple times from josh's fuck ups and decided it cant be that hard. He is a pro shooter BTW and won this region last year. I can name a dozen people who had similar expereince including myself.
Keystone fucked up almost as many 22 barrels as PVA. You can have that shit.
You dont like what you are hearing so you blow it off. Guys who burn out a bunch of barrels every year steer clear of them for a reason. Chads who will buy and sell a gun before torching a barrel come here to spout off becuase ignorance is bliss.
Good smiths do not leave things up to chance. They stick with known quantities. Their reputations are everything and they don't want to loose money to something outside of their control. Something like an impact or other custom prefit compatible action will hold action and bolt headspace within about .001. That is close enough to be able to make a barrel by print. More than that, you are taking on risk as SAMMI spec is a range and the actions have their own range. But you knew all this right?
Now tell me I am wrong......
yeah, and Yugos were good cars, but not when compared to CaddiesTikka Super Varmint $1649 vs. new manufacture Remy Model 700 SPS Tactical Threaded $765.
yeah, and Yugos were good cars, but not when compared to Caddies
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Reading is fundamental, in your case you missed this sentence in my OP "This will be a .308 because I have FAR too much invested in that caliber and I'm not starting over." Period. Now, you probably take your own advice about arguing on the internet as you seem a bit too contrary here.You could have bought this and be shooting already instead of arguing with nerds on the Internet. Just do like the rest of us have and buy both to create your own opinion and experience. It'll be a lot more fun.
SOLD - Tikka T3X KRG Bravo 6.5cm
Selling my Tikka T3X sitting in a black KRG Bravo that accepts AICS mags. 24” oem barrel in 6.5cm. Shoots .6moa with minimal load development. Will include a 5/8x24 muzzle thread protector. Barrel has a little rash from vice when originally removed. Asking $1250+shipping for the rifle and Tikka...www.snipershide.com
This was me a few times before I learned my lesson.Tips for buying a rifle
Step 1: Buy something
Step 2: Spend more money fixing a perceived issue
Step 3: ??????
Step 4: Sell it at a loss then start over
Circle of life.
These aren't Savages.Tips for buying a rifle
Step 1: Buy something
Step 2: Spend more money fixing a perceived issue
Step 3: ??????
Step 4: Sell it at a loss then start over
Circle of life.
Tips for buying a rifle
Step 1: Buy something
Step 2: Spend more money fixing a perceived issue
Step 3: ??????
Step 4: Sell it at a loss then start over
Circle of life
This was me a few times before I learned my lesson.
These aren't Savage