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[Bumcity206]

Hey all.

These are once fired factory ammo, not reloaded. 6.5 creed. Headspace is checked with go/no go gauges multiple times for verification. Can anyone identify the issue by looking at these photos? Specifically I'm concerned about the ring near the base that appears after firing.

 

[918v]

It’s normal case expansion.

 

[spife7980]

Agreed, looks fine.

Measure it about .2 up from the bottom and see if its much more over .470" on that ring.

 

[Bumcity206]

It seems like its leaving a real shelf there on that ring. Heres some more pictures. The .46 measurement is right on the ring area, and the larger measurement .475 is just above it. Just hoping someone else can chime in who has had similar results.

 

[Long Range 338]

Factory rifle? If so their chambers won’t always run tight.

 

[918v]

It seems like its leaving a real shelf there on that ring. Heres some more pictures. The .46 measurement is right on the ring area, and the larger measurement .475 is just above it. Just hoping someone else can chime in who has had similar results.

Do you know how guns work?

 

[Bumcity206]

Do you know how guns work?

Wow, Thank you for the helpful input. My other 6.5 rifles don't do this to the cases. I'm looking for real feedback. Is there something wrong with people who don't know everything about guns asking questions here? I want to be able to reload this brass for multiple rifles.

 

[whatsupdoc]

If you are measuring correctly and your caliper is accurate it appears that your chamber is a little oversize.
Headspace gauge will not provide any information for this issue, only a chamber cast will show any discrepancies.

It does not look that bad. Polish it with steel wool the step will go away.

You can live with it.
You can have the barrel re-chambered
You can replace the barrel.

What rifle is this?
Is it shooting well?
Do you plan on reloading this ammo?
If you are be aware that it may not chamber in another rifle with a tight chamber even after full length resizing.

 

[Bumcity206]

If you are measuring correctly and your caliper is accurate it appears that your chamber is a little oversize.
Headspace gauge will not provide any information for this issue, only a chamber cast will show any discrepancies.

It does not look that bad. Polish it with steel wool the step will go away.

You can live with it.
You can have the barrel re-chambered
You can replace the barrel.

What rifle is this?
Is it shooting well?
Do you plan on reloading this ammo?
If you are be aware that it may not chamber in another rifle with a tight chamber even after full length resizing.

Thanks for the info. It's a factory barrel on a Ruger Precision rifle. It is shooting well, yes. I was mainly just trying to make sure this isn't an early indicator of a case separation issue or something catastrophic or unsafe. I do plan to reload these, and yes I have multiple rifles in this caliber. If this is an oversize chamber, and these are fire-forming to this chamber, then I will likely want to keep these cases separate from my other rifles fired brass. I showed a couple guys at the range, and they were not convinced that it's still safe to continue shooting, so that's why I'm here. I'm not new to guns, but i'm fairly new to bolt guns and reloading.

 

[918v]

Wow, Thank you for the helpful input. My other 6.5 rifles don't do this to the cases. I'm looking for real feedback. Is there something wrong with people who don't know everything about guns asking questions here? I want to be able to reload this brass for multiple rifles.

If you can’t comprehend that brass expands to seal the chamber and then springs back only .001” and that your particular chamber allowed your particular brass to expand that much then maybe you should not be reloading.

 

[____________]

If you can’t comprehend that brass expands to seal the chamber and then springs back only .001” and that your particular chamber allowed your particular brass to expand that much then maybe you should not be reloading.

If you can not comprehend a sentence in which someone indicates that this was factory loaded ammo, perhaps you should not be commenting.

 

[918v]

If you can not comprehend a sentence in which someone indicates that this was factory loaded ammo, perhaps you should not be commenting.

Lol! You are worse than him.

 

[Bumcity206]

If you can’t comprehend that brass expands to seal the chamber and then springs back only .001” and that your particular chamber allowed your particular brass to expand that much then maybe you should not be reloading.

Stop acting like an elitist. What wrong with people being new to something and trying to learn about it? People like you prevent new people from wanting to join the hobby.

Is what I'm asking really that stupid of a question? I have a bucket of fired brass from other rifles, and none of them look like this, so I was trying to figure it out. Everyone has to start somewhere.

 

[918v]

Here is a random case from my bucket:

 

[918v]

Cases expand like that.

 

[Bumcity206]

That's actually the most helpful post yet. Seriously! I feel much better now!

Thank you!

 

[Bumcity206]

I couldn't find pictures of it anywhere else on the web.

 

[Huskydriver]

Looks normal to me but two questions; have you used a feeler to see if you have a big dip in the case wall on the inside right there? Do you have another gun chambered in 6.5 cm if you posted that above somewhere I apologize?

When I'm in doubt about a case, I just slit it down the middle length wise and take a look inside since I batch all my ammo. Gives me a good idea where my batches case head seperation progress is at.

 

[Bumcity206]

Looks normal to me but two questions; have you used a feeler to see if you have a big dip in the case wall Lon the inside right there? Do you have another gun chambered in 6.5 cm if you posted that above somewhere I apologize?

Yes and yes. I think we're good. Guy below showed me err in my ways. Thank you.

 

[pell1203]

Bumcity206, the ring is completely normal! The line you are seeing, if you where to section a case, falls directly in line with the thickest part of the case. What is called the web.

You really have nothing to worry about. Typical factory (non-custom) chambers will exhibit this bright ring/line as the chambers are cut a little roomier to work with a larger variety of ammunition.

For the most part, actual head separations will occur about 1/4” further up the case.

 

[Edds]

If your fired brass measures .475", that means your chamber is about .476". That is about .003" over the maximum SAAMI spec.

If you don't reload, it isn't going to be an issue. If you reload, your brass isn't going to live thru as many loadings as it would in a smaller chamber.

 

[Bumcity206]

Thanks everybody