Someone with quickload - need help

BearNaked

BearNaked

Beer Saved The World
Full Member
Minuteman
Feb 13, 2017
609
218
Texas
#1
I need some help from one of you fine gentlemen. Can someone run some numbers for me on quickload to give me a start and max load for 260 rem, 130 vld hunting, 26" 1:8 select match barrel shillen. let me know what other information you would need.

Reloader 17
IMR-4451
H4831sc

 
#2
Whoever runs the numbers will need this info ( I believe, it was taken from their website)
qlscreenshot.JPG
 
#5
GhengisAhn175 said:
Why don't you just start 20 thousandths off the lands at 42.0 grains of 4451 and work up
Click to expand...

I dont have starting loads for any of these. i am going to start 20 thousandths off the lands like you said but some of the loads i have seen are in the 30's grain charge so i dont want to start at 42 and blow up my brand new barrel and my ugly face. granted i do need a shave.

that is all i am trying to figure out. starting loads for these powders. they are not listed in my books. hornady and lee. i guess they are old since they only have 4 powders for 130 gr bullets.
 
#8
BearNaked said:
this shit makes my head hurt. that is a lot of data to figure out. this hobby is not only expensive but severely complicated.
Click to expand...

Agreed, I think a lot of it is auto fed in such as the powder burn profiles and bullet case designs and bullet profiles etc but the lengths and h2o capacities are things that you will need.

If you tilt the monitor back it looks like some fields are gray and some are white. I suspect that you would need to know those that are white.
 
#10
Not to be an asshole but I'm going to say this bluntly:

youre a new reloader it it sounds like and you don't want to do the work. You somehow know about quick load and just want a computer tailored load so you can just plug and play.

The reason(s) why that's wrong:

-quick load is a proprietary software. You're not supposed to just give away answers online.

-you're not learning anything and you don't even know what the inputs are that spife posted. You do know you need to supply a lot of information to quickload or you're gonna get back a less than educated guess?

-42.0'grains of 4451 seated 20 thousandths off for a Berger 130gr is NOT anything fancy and is not enough to blow up your face. you can even shoot this jammed .010" into the lands and you'll be fine.

Read the stickies and read your reloading manual if you have one. as culpepr said the load data for your request is also available online if you want to skip some steps.
you can even browse the reloading depot below this section and get the info you seek.
 
#11
GhengisAhn175 said:
The reason(s) why that's wrong:

-quick load is a proprietary software. You're not supposed to just give away answers online.
.
Click to expand...

Not sure that's correct. It is a licensed s/w package but no where in the license agreement does it state you cannot post the results or give the results to a 3rd party. The restriction in the license agreement only covers making copies of the s/w and either giving it awa, renting it or selling it as an entire program that can be used on another computer other than the person's who purchased it. I read through it a couple of times and sharing the resulting data output is not covered.

L
 
Last edited:
#13
LOL, let's don't.

EDT: Personally, I'd do it for those occasions where someone has a scenario that's not in the books(ex. Modern 6.5x55AI loads) but just looking for mins and maxes and such then that shit is online already. And peoples Google foo needs to get a little better. The OP shoulda just looked that up online. You don't need QL for that. I guess he figures barrel length and twist make a difference on mins and maxs when it doesn't. Else he was being lazy.
 
Last edited:
#15
First off, i am not new to reloading. no i dont know everything about it but i know what i am doing. I see people coming on here and asking about it so i figured i would give it a try since 4451 was a newer powder. if they were at then the others would be easy.

as for it being a reliable tool to use for people, the only thing reliable is what my gun does with my components.

second, i cannot find these loads for a 130 grain in a 260. i will take pictures of my books that i have to prove this. also, i went through the 260 rem thread to look for those loads and the only one i could find is the 4831sc. I have looked at the powders website for information, none of them are listed. i know how to look up starting loads but there isnt any.

for instance, in my books, they only list out 120 and 140 gr loads. so i am splitting the difference and giving it a try. as for the 42 grains wont blow your face off, imr-4064 has a max load of 38gr in 120 bullet. so if 4451 is similar than yes it might being 4 gr over max. not saying 4 gr over max is going to blow up but anything is possible.

if yall dont want to help out then thats fine. just needed a starting point but i get a bunch of assholes instead. its about average for par. mods can delete it.
 
#18
BearNaked said:
here is a thread with quickload.

https://www.snipershide.com/shootin.../6331351-70g-hornday-gmx-load-recommendations

here is another.

https://www.snipershide.com/shootin...eloading/6326987-reloder-16-for-260-remington

apparently i am not worthy but others are. thought it was fine since others were doing it.
Click to expand...


Dont act like a child. The misgivings of others isn't grounds for permission. If you want QL info then take it to a PM. That's an implied task.

and I just searched the threads myself. There multitude of 4451 / 260 Rem data out there. Google helps too.

You could also also have simply asked if anyone had tried 4451 and what their load development looked like. (This comes up on searches too but this simple question could've been discussed well here with no issues)

you also listed 3 powders , again all 3 have load data available for your specifics. A search there would've helped + comparing on the burn rate chart.

You even said you didn't want to start at 42.0 grains because you SAW min loads around the 37's. So did you see load data or not?

Again everything implies you wanted quickload data to just get you where you wanted to go and shoot and be done with it. 99% chance if you did that nothing catastrophic would've happened. If anything maybe a pierced primer.

you even linked above where someone asked for QL data. Did you NOT SEE his reply and how Layton had to correct himSelf on an honest mistake? Say Layton posted wrong QL data for you and you fucked yourself up. You going to blame Layton now because he mistyped something on QL?

Look at where IMR 4451 sits on the burn rate chart available at hodgdon's site. Can you not plug and play H4350 #'s there as a rough start?

Have some thought before you cry woe is me because we said don't post QL data publicly and then say that there's absolutely NO load data out there.
 
#20
When I lurked long ago, I thought QuickLoad was some super expensive program. That must be why so many requests for data. It had to be out of reach of the average Joe. So looked it up and was shocked to see it was $160. We spend way more than that on other shooting things.

People with QL can't give you the data you request because 4451 is not in there until the latest update (Dec '16). That and the sticky referred to. Plus often the data is way off unless you adjust for burning rate and case capacity.
​
Try contacting IMR powders or Berger for data. I did that for a 338 Edge when it was relatively new and no data was available. They are there to help you.

Good luck and be safe. There are no shortcuts in reloading.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

sacklunch
Quickload alternatives?
Replies
18
Views
3K
secondofangle2
secondofangle2
N
Anyone with quickload willing to help a guy out?
Replies
3
Views
373
Dogtown
Dogtown
D
Help Needed--Pressure signs WAAY early.
Replies
7
Views
775
DocRDS
D
T
New to non SAAMI Loads- 7x300Win ANY/ALL advice needed and greatly appreciated.
Replies
21
Views
949
Schw15
S
blackened
New to ELR, need help with Cheytac M200 Intervention scope, mount, and zero.
Replies
34
Views
2K
steve123
S
Top Bottom
Back
Home
Forums
Merch
Alerts