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SSAR-15 Stock

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With a the right semi auto trigger, a person can fire amazingly fast, and with a level of precision that that stock would not likely allow.
In excess of 300 rpm aimed bursts on semi can be quite accurate, and controllable with practice.

I'm dumbfounded by the success of these gadgets.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hamilton</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm dumbfounded by the success of these gadgets.

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+1M!!!! This is especially true when you consider the price tag!!!
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Im dumbfounded how you are dumbfounded. People pay $10k+ to own a full auto M16, nothing special, just an M16. This you can put on any AR15 platform you want for $300 (not a lot more than some of the stocks guys buy anyway) and it looks like it might as well be auto. Maybe not the cyclic rate of an M16 but not far off. And you dont have to hold it at your hip to do it.

Im not advertising this, as I said I dont even own an AR, I just thought it was pretty cool having shot several FA M16s.
 
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This isn't real full auto.
You have to apply forward muscle tension with your support hand to let it bump fire against your trigger finger, shaking back and forth.

Real full auto can be better controlled because the shooter isn't required to have to jerk off his rifle.
He is then free to tighten up his stance and get stock pressure into the pocket so the whole mass (shooter + rifle) is absorbing recoil. (Not shaking back and forth like a retard)
Adding more things to concentrate on while simultaneously taking away the shooters' ability to securely pocket the rifle is not likely to be good.
All in an attempt to mimic full auto.
Full auto is a dubious feature on an AR that truly has limited application as it is.
To control full auto on weapons like these you really have to make the rifle your bitch.
Even then the results are usually not stellar.

Unless your target is huge, quick semi auto is usually the fastest way to put lead on target with these types of rifles.
Throttle your ROF as necessary to stay on target.
Training is still very much required, but the results can be astounding.

As an aside, the legal full autos have an investment value.
It becomes much easier to part with money when you know that you'll get more back in the end, and you have a machine gun to play with in the mean time.
It's like buying land. It's an investment that you can use in the mean time, and because they aren't making any more, it's value is likely to climb.

I'm now downgrading my opinion.

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it'll sell
and sell a lot
why? because bump firing is fun


not everyone in the world cares to hit an inch target every single time....some just like to make a lot of noise.

i bumpfire my ak all the time, why? because it's fun

some people, like above poster, just want to hate on sometime. everyone has different ideas of what's cool/what's fun/what's useful/what's necessary..i mean, it's not like someones gonna buy this for sport or for being an "operator" (lol at the term) but this will be nothing more than what a full auto m16 would be...a novelty.
 
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Hey.................I'm no hater.
Yes, if firing a gun for "effect" is what you're in to then "knock yourself out".
Why not just hold the gun and make some shooting noises?
Personally, I think it's cool to hit a target at a distance.
But that's just me.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hamilton</div><div class="ubbcode-body">With a the right semi auto trigger, a person can fire amazingly fast, and with a level of precision that that stock would not likely allow.
In excess of 300 rpm aimed bursts on semi can be quite accurate, and controllable with practice.

I'm dumbfounded by the success of these gadgets.

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What kind of gadgets are you referring to? I like the idea of 'cheap' rapid fire, just for the fun of it.

Open to options.. I was considering buying the SSAR as a novelty. Any other suggestions?

Thanks.
 
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unless you own one... don't speculate. these are as close to full auto are you will get LEGALLY. I own one, it is easy to use and averages 750 rounds per minute... whereas an M16 800ish RPM. The forward pressure is minimal and it is very stable. don't knock it... it is a blast to use ... check it:

http://vimeo.com/22009528
 
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Sorry you don't have money... but I have plenty of experience.... it is for fun... do you know what fun is? like driving a ferrari at 200mph or sky diving... what's your problem... do shoot your .22..
 
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I think it's a cool & nifty idea. However i'm not shelling out $300ish for one. I'll put $300 towards something else for my rifle. But alot of people are so mad at this idea it seems, here & on m4c (where i'm also a member).

Like damn, if you don't want one, don't buy one & move on, no one's forcing you to. I think everyone's mad because they know this guy is making bank & they didn't think of it first.

Just like someone else said, it's a novelty item & a ammo waster just like a FA M16.

Also people are just bringing up stuff they shouldn't. EVERYONE is aware this is not a precision instrument & no one (even the manuf) is saying it is. Yet people are still making comments about how inaccurate it is, acting like it was marketed as a precision rifle. Then bringing crap up about using it in a real combat situation. Like wth. Again EVERYONE knows this is a novelty toy & no one is going to take it into a actual combat situation.

Like seriously go read the thread on M4C. It's like 3 pages of bitchtasticness, from everything about accuracy to using it in a combat situation, to god knows what else.

Like I said, it is a really neat & cool new idea, that is completely legal (for the time being). You don't have to purchase one to make a positive comment on it.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hamilton</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's gay.
I'm sorry. </div></div>

your gay, and I'm not sorry
 
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chega, this is an internet forum where anything posted is subject to any and all 51k+ members' opinions. This isn't the PC happy-happy-joy-joy world where the golden rule of "if you don't have anything nice to say, then don't say anything at all" prevails. Jealous that they're making money off a product? Not in the least little bit.

As for the stock, it is my opinion that anyone who takes shooting and shot placement seriously would never have a want or need for such an implement. You hit the nail on the head where you called it a novelty item. The problem is that such types of novelties, in the wrong hands, make for ranges getting shut down or further tightening its rules, local ordinances restricting shooting even further, and more fodder for the gun grabbers. It only takes one jackass having rounds leaving their already shoddy impact berm to screw it up for the rest of us.

Remember this is Sniper's Hide - For the SERIOUS tactical marksman.... Not for the novelty weekend superhero showing off his bump fire techniques. We actually care about shot placement and are on a lifelong endeavor to achieve the pinnacle in marksmanship. We leave the crap firing technique discussions to the other sites.

It's legal to walk around town in a thin spandex suit, but it doesn't make it right. Same applies here.

Finally, rapid/full auto fire is for suppression of an enemy target, and really comes in handy during a flanking assault. That's what machine guns are for. But it isn't the base of fire that takes the objective, it's the rifleman on semi using ammo conservation and effective shot placement that does. I have full auto on my rifle and have never even used it when I actually needed to use my rifle. Why? Ammo is valuable and you never know when you'll need it all.

Cheers and good day.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Viperjody</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hamilton</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's gay.
I'm sorry. </div></div>

your gay, and I'm not sorry </div></div>

Really?
Name calling on the internet is where you're at in life.

Jerking off your rifle and firing for effect is, in fact, gay.
You people that buy this crap are the reason ranges close, and rules meant for the lowest common denominator have to be followed by all.
You are likely one of those people.
Thanks buddy.