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STL McCloskeys served with search warrant

I live on a PRIVATE street. I OWN that land “Fee Simple” “In Common” with my neighbors who are members of the HOA.
I pay for that street, and It IS my fucking private property. If you come on it without an invitation you are trespassing, period. This is NOT in contention, and there is no fucktard case law claiming a private street is public. If that were the case it would bankrupt 90% of municipalities.
If we wanted to throw up a gate no one could stop us.
I also own a farm on a private road in common with my neighbors.

I certainly would defend it. This is not in dispute.
 
Stripping a scumbag (ie a Chester ie a terrorist ie a drunk ie etc) oh their rights because they are a scumbag is how the constitution got turned into toilet papers

When you take their rights away you give the state the ability to take your rights away.

Like you idiots that support “prohibiting offenses” or sending US citizens to gitmo
 
No, I know it is not a public street, it is a private street.

Let me ask this to the McCloskey friends.

If this was Diane Feinstein and her husband in the exact same scenario would you assume them to be on your side? Be your peeps? Offer to loan them weapons or start a GoFundMe? Diane also believes in guns as long as it's her that has em.

I believe they are getting effed over by the letter of the law and do not believe that disarming them was a good thing. To hold them up and champion them like they were your range training partner is ridiculous.

Private lane or not, if you point a weapon at someone in the street who is unarmed and not on your lot/plot/land and is not threatening you, you are going to catch a case.

I am NOT on the side of mobs and looters and riots, I am also not for championing people that could not care less about what is actually happening. Like Diane Feinstein, these are not your peeps.

Then whose side are you on.
You just said it wasnt private property/street, now, you say it is. Which is it?

You know what I think Paul, I think you dont like rich folk...seriously. I dont think you like folks that you perceive as not your kind of people. Or more well to do than you. I expect I'm teetering on the edge of that mark myself.
I could expound but i think that'll do for now.

No one is holding them up as shining examples of what a gun owner should be, or even how they should act.

I get it. They are rich assholes. They dont need our support.
They stood up to a mob.....awe hell who gives a shit.

This country is so fucked it isn't funny.
I'm starting to see things really clear.
 
I could give a rats ass about my enemies rights. Try to harm my family or myself and I will try my best to strip you of all your rights.

The people who are on the other side hate us and want to destroy our way of life. I will not virtue signal on the Hide about protecting their rights.
Well, there is a right and a wrong, a rule of law and a lawlessness, and we’re the only fucking liberals left. It’s not “virtue signaling”, leftist bullshit for people to talk the truth and point out what’s right.
We need both your anger and resolve, and those who look at the bigger picture. I hope we need them equally, but I’m afraid we’re going to need more anger than anything else in the near future.
Never forget. Jesus got plenty pissed from time to time.
 
Joe, damn bro, I don’t know what to say.

I don’t support people who are my enemy (this attorney defends and supports BLM) just because they hold a rifle.
 
I could give a rats ass about my enemies rights. Try to harm my family or myself and I will try my best to strip you of all your rights.

The people who are on the other side hate us and want to destroy our way of life. I will not virtue signal on the Hide about protecting their rights.
It’s about the constitution

SMFH
 
Stripping a scumbag (ie a Chester ie a terrorist ie a drunk ie etc) oh their rights because they are a scumbag is how the constitution got turned into toilet papers

When you take their rights away you give the state the ability to take your rights away.

Like you idiots that support “prohibiting offenses” or sending US citizens to gitmo

It's called a consequence of being Criminal.

From what you wrote it appears that you believe we shouldn't have prisons... Is that correct?

So you find out a teacher has been repeatedly raping your child you also find out this teacher has a history of raping children. What rights do you want them to keep?
 
It's called a consequence of being Criminal.

From what you wrote it appears that you believe we shouldn't have prisons... Is that correct?

So you find out a teacher has been repeatedly raping your child you also find out this teacher has a history of raping children. What rights do you want them to keep?
The fourth has been completely destroyed. Shouldn’t be destroying the constitution in the name of war on this or war on that. Work within the system to get your evidence and convict them.

You agree with all the spying on every US citizen to get the terrorists the same .gov imports ?

And yeah prohibiting offenses are utter BS. You should look up the misdemeanors and “domestic violence” etc that will get your guns stolen from you by .gov


Of and child molesters and thieves should be executed. Thank women voters for them being let out
 
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So where the fuck is the vaunted NRA, GOA? There needs to be mobs of 2A folks pulling the same BLM tactics out there. Useless organizations. They need to sue the shit out of St Louis, at least. Then file in court to end this illegal confiscation. Where are they?

The NRA is too busy buying Chinese flashlights with eagles etched in the sides to give away for joining and Wayne LaPierre is too busy getting hand jobs by Philipino prostitutes paid for by its members. The GOA is too busy paying the Bundys to speak at their next rally.
 
Joe, damn bro, I don’t know what to say.

I don’t support people who are my enemy (this attorney defends and supports BLM) just because they hold a rifle.

Just so you know, this right here, is exactly how they will, and are, dividing us.

So you support constitutional rights for people you like, but not people you dont like? You realize that's what you are saying?
I'm sure people like me won't be invited to their dinner parties. I'm sure they wouldn't "like me" either.
I do know this, they have a right to be secure in, on, and around their property.
Arguing whether someone broke a gate, private or public, etc ad nauseam is exactly what the MSM is hoping for on this one.

We are so scared of what some lukewarm half assed 2A supporter will think of us, that we are paralyzed from supporting the BOR like it is written.

They support and defend BLM.....well hell, why aren't they media darlings?
Things are not as they seem....or they are. Doesn't change the fact they had a right to do what they did.
Again, I'm betting I dont like them, if I knew them.
 
From what you wrote it appears that you believe we shouldn't have prisons... Is that correct?

I personally don't believe long term prisons are the way to go.....

So you find out a teacher has been repeatedly raping your child you also find out this teacher has a history of raping children. What rights do you want them to keep?

IF they are proven beyond doubt to have actually raped (as in violent forceable non-consentual sexual assault) and it was an actual child (NOT some teenager that thought it was cool to have sex with the teacher), you don't really have to worry, the rapist can keep all their rights... in the grave...

The problem of course is we can't have nice laws because stupid Karens then want to demand "Rape" charges when some teenager has consenting relations with some older person and of course then having nice simple laws breaks down because you want them applied to vastly different situations.

and thieves should be executed.

I kind of actually prefer the good old mosaic law on that & think it's a lot more workable. You steal from someone, you are forced to work to pay it back + a bit extra for their trouble. That is making the punishment fit the crime and will be a way better deterrent, because overly draconian punishments eventually blow back in your face because of their horrid absurdity (See such literary works as: Les Misérables, or: A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's court).

You should extend that same idea to all these vandals, you vandalize, riot / loot / burn stuff up, well you are now forced to work to pay that off + a bit extra for the trouble.
 
It's called a consequence of being Criminal.

From what you wrote it appears that you believe we shouldn't have prisons... Is that correct?

So you find out a teacher has been repeatedly raping your child you also find out this teacher has a history of raping children. What rights do you want them to keep?


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So you find out a teacher has been repeatedly raping your child you also find out this teacher has a history of raping children. What rights do you want them to keep?
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The right to occupy a 6 foot deep hole in the middle of a lonely field somewhere...
 
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1. Just so you know, this right here, is exactly how they will, and are, dividing us.

2. I'm sure people like me won't be invited to their dinner parties. I'm sure they wouldn't "like me" either.

3. We are so scared of what some lukewarm half assed 2A supporter will think of us, that we are paralyzed from supporting the BOR like it is written.

1. Yep.

2. Its ok, you can stop by for dinner here anytime. Tonight for dinner we are having pulled pork BBQ sandwiches, pasta salad and cantelope.

3. I was in this camp, handwringing each tragic event involving a firearm. But more and more it became woefully apparent that there are forces intent on dividing 2A supporters with systematic propoganda.

Nope, not anymore...no thanks and I will pass on that.

I have no more control over what some crazy fuck does as I do making the sun rise tomorrow.

And some crazy fuck doesnt make me look bad...I didnt do jack shit. Put the blame where it belongs. The individual is fully to blame. Want to start blaming outside of the individual? Look no further than the broken mental health system, socio-economic disparity, fucked up public education system,..the list goes on and on. But I know with 100% certainty that it aint my fucking fault. So paraphrasing something I heard...

"Stop trying to lay blame for these shootings at my fucking feet and put the blame where it belongs"

Aint working anymore.
 
Just so you know, this right here, is exactly how they will, and are, dividing us.

So you support constitutional rights for people you like, but not people you dont like? You realize that's what you are saying?
I'm sure people like me won't be invited to their dinner parties. I'm sure they wouldn't "like me" either.
I do know this, they have a right to be secure in, on, and around their property.
Arguing whether someone broke a gate, private or public, etc ad nauseam is exactly what the MSM is hoping for on this one.

We are so scared of what some lukewarm half assed 2A supporter will think of us, that we are paralyzed from supporting the BOR like it is written.

They support and defend BLM.....well hell, why aren't they media darlings?
Things are not as they seem....or they are. Doesn't change the fact they had a right to do what they did.
Again, I'm betting I dont like them, if I knew them.
I like you, and I don’t even like you.
 
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So you support constitutional rights for people you like, but not people you dont like? You realize that's what you are saying?
Quote me where I said that they do not have the right to defend themselves or their property. I’ll wait.

There are cries all over the net on all kinds of media from the gun crowd holding these fucktards up as some kind of shining example instead of a clock being right twice a day.

You are the only person on this site I believe who I have sat up late, face to face in your house and mine, and talked and you think this is what I believe or even what I’m saying?

Really?
 
Quote me where I said that they do not have the right to defend themselves or their property. I’ll wait.

There are cries all over the net on all kinds of media from the gun crowd holding these fucktards up as some kind of shining example instead of a clock being right twice a day.

You are the only person on this site I believe who I have sat up late, face to face in your house and mine, and talked and you think this is what I believe or even what I’m saying?

Really?


Ok, you dont like them. They aren't "our kind". They are shitbag lawyers...yeah, I get that.

I haven't made them out folk heros, nor will I.

It's a Bonfire of the Vanities moment. The Defendants aren't exactly pristine. The prosecutor is a communist, pandering to the mob. The mob and the prosecutor are in search of the "Great White Defendant". The police are just "doing their job".

There are two different story lines on these people right now.

I'm not gonna quote all your posts. Friends are too hard to come by. No, you didnt say those things. The tone of your posts implied something that wasnt there I reckon.

Defending their actions are a long shot from making them folk heros.
 
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Hand them a rubber band gun and tell them it’s your evil black rifle


Have some toy guns/cheapo airsoft pieces lying around that looks almost identical to the real hardware that you own... Turn that one in and say you used THAT to scare the zombies off...

Any other questions? I don't know shit and I ain't answering shit...
 
It's called a consequence of being Criminal.

From what you wrote it appears that you believe we shouldn't have prisons... Is that correct?

So you find out a teacher has been repeatedly raping your child you also find out this teacher has a history of raping children. What rights do you want them to keep?

It's about due process. How is it that people can't understand that?
 
So, take this for the source, but not much reason not to believe this. The only problem I have is the press only digs dirt up on moderate to semi-conservative-to-Constitutionalist, never one of their own.


Not in my mind should this make a rat's butt regarding the current issue; but, they are definitely a-holes. Though, some of it is obvious written to make them look even worse than they are. The whole beehive thing is a bit shocking as is the 1800's law on non-married couples.
 


What a shit show. Even if they only had one gun, the AR taken, it's obviously one too many. The System is BROKEN!!!
 
I’ll confess I haven’t read a thing about them but all the articles I do read scream the constitution is under constant assault by domestic enemies. Time is long overdue for everyone that took a oath to be reminded.
 
I am sure as attorneys they will either file appeals or lawsuits as needed and I hope they sue that is if a socialist judge will even hear there case . I am happy it did not happen like that to a little old lady who could probably would not know how to handle that situation .
 
I am not sure if I have this right... but did I hear that they had been charged with Felony misuse of a firearm?

Yup... Soros DA is charging them with a felony for defending their property... from a dangerous armed mob. Without firing a shot.

Thinking we have a test case in the making...

Sirhr
 
I am not sure if I have this right... but did I hear that they had been charged with Felony misuse of a firearm?

Yup... Soros DA is charging them with a felony for defending their property... from a dangerous armed mob. Without firing a shot.

Thinking we have a test case in the making...

Sirhr

It would seem so.


  1. Breaking — McCloskeys charged with felony by Kim Gardner ...
    www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/breaking...
    Jul 20, 2020 · A husband and wife will be charged with felony unlawful use of a weapon for displaying guns during a racial injustice protest outside their mansion in St. Louis, the city's top prosecutor says. Supporters say the couple were legally defending their home. https://t.co/TBIBoPtb2C — The Associated Press (@AP) July 20, 2020
 
I think maybe you did. I caught part of a news report on the radio at work that somebody whos name i didnt catch had called for or had either launched an investigation into Kim Gardners handling of the case. Never did get an opportunity to listen to the next broadcast.
 
Would love to see the feds come in in a rest every elected official associated with that case for abuse of authority... there should be a mix-up with the paperwork and those elected officials should be promptly put in general lockup with violent rapist felons.

After about six months to a year they can be found... Oops sorry. When they sue the ruling should be " everybody was acting within reasonable this of the job they were charged to do...not guilty"
 
Would love to see the feds come in in a rest every elected official associated with that case for abuse of authority... there should be a mix-up with the paperwork and those elected officials should be promptly put in general lockup with violent rapist felons.

After about six months to a year they can be found... Oops sorry. When they sue the ruling should be " everybody was acting within reasonable this of the job they were charged to do...not guilty"

They are just like Nazis.

Remember that the people that hid the Jews were breaking the law.

The people that killed the Jews were following the law.
 
I am not sure if I have this right... but did I hear that they had been charged with Felony misuse of a firearm?

Yup... Soros DA is charging them with a felony for defending their property... from a dangerous armed mob. Without firing a shot.

Thinking we have a test case in the making...

Sirhr
Yes, according to the report I saw on Fox this is correct. Felony Misuse of Firearm. pathetic.
 
there should be a lot more of those letters sent and recieved in the past few months its good to see at least not all those in government are corrupt or willing to throw out the constitution just to suit there needs .
 
This broad who's persecuting the couple, needs to be fired, charge with 'abuse of power' and held personally responsible for all costs and damages that the couple have endured.

Not to mention 'penalties'. Her personally,,, not 'the city' though there are others who put her in that position whom should be held accountable, too.