Suppressors Suppresing a shotgun?
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Re: Suppresing a shotgun?
Actually such a thing .......
Actually such a thing .......
Re: Suppresing a shotgun?
They exist.
More common in Europe than the US.
You'd need to load or buy subsonic ammunition to make it worthwhile.
Oh, and it will be huge to be effective.
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They exist.
More common in Europe than the US.
You'd need to load or buy subsonic ammunition to make it worthwhile.
Oh, and it will be huge to be effective.
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Re: Suppresing a shotgun?
Whats the most you ever lost on a coin toss?
Whats the most you ever lost on a coin toss?
Re: Suppresing a shotgun?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: reelman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I watched the movie "No COuntry for Old Men" the other night and the bad guy had a suppresor on his shotgun. I've never seen or heard of that before. Is there actually such a thing or is it a Hollywood creation?</div></div> I like that movie. And would be cool to have
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: reelman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I watched the movie "No COuntry for Old Men" the other night and the bad guy had a suppresor on his shotgun. I've never seen or heard of that before. Is there actually such a thing or is it a Hollywood creation?</div></div> I like that movie. And would be cool to have
Re: Suppresing a shotgun?
it can be done...or better it has been done...there is a european market doule barreled side be side. aimed for the sports crowd.
and of course there is the Tac-Ops/Resignio's patent..but do not what came out of it...
Mike's patent relied on the use of a shot cup and ONLY that...the theory is that the buffers are spaced so close taht the shotcup contacts 3 of, always....the issue of cource is not having stray pellets hitting the suppressor buffers
it can be done...or better it has been done...there is a european market doule barreled side be side. aimed for the sports crowd.
and of course there is the Tac-Ops/Resignio's patent..but do not what came out of it...
Mike's patent relied on the use of a shot cup and ONLY that...the theory is that the buffers are spaced so close taht the shotcup contacts 3 of, always....the issue of cource is not having stray pellets hitting the suppressor buffers
Re: Suppresing a shotgun?
Some of the most interesting work is being done in this arena right now. There were 11 patents filed in the last year's time. The issue is properly managing the the wad once things really heat up. Velocity management is not easy.
For those that can remember there is always the Telecartirdge, 450 fps, impulse based, complete (100%) flash and bang captured....."It was designed by Robert Schnepfe in 1967 for a U.S.Navy contract for a low-signature munition that could be fired and ejected from standard military 12 gauge shotguns. The munition was required to possess a high hit-and-kill probability at short range in quick-reaction situations to poorly defined targets. When perfected, it was destined for use in jungle operations by navy SEALS and Marine Corps Reconnaissance Teams. It employed the AAI-patented powder-actuated Telecartridge device conceived originally for use in missiles. It was designed not to rupture during or after the power stroke. It was then adapted to the development of the Silent Shotgun Shell. By early 1968 samples were being tested. The payload consisted of 12 hardened No. 4 buckshot, arranged in three interlocking rows. Excluding the plastic pusher, the payload weighed slightly more than 0.5 ounce. It was sealed by an aluminuim, cup-shaped closure disc. A sealing compound waterproofed the mouth. It was 2.5 inches long unfired. Fired, the expanded Telecatridge cup protruded from the mouth of the case approximately .32 inch or about the same as the fold crimp on a standard shell. The prototype rounds had a muzzle velocity of 550 fps, however testing revealed excessive shot dispersion and some failures at this velocity. A reduction to 450 fps solved all of these problems. The round was said to be quieter in functioning than the mechanical, repicrocating noises of the weapon that fired it. Its sound signature was considerably lower than that of the best firearms suppressors of the day."
http://homepage3.nifty.com/gun45/syouonsandan.jpg
http://homepage3.nifty.com/gun45/syouonsandan2.jpg
Or at 3.5 lbs...Tacops?
http://www.tacticaloperations.com/swatsep2000/pic4.jpg
http://www.tacticaloperations.com/swatsep2000/pic5.jpg
Live in Finland? BR-Tuote..
http://guns.connect.fi/gow/shotgsup.jpg
Great things are about to drop on this one...hang on.
Some of the most interesting work is being done in this arena right now. There were 11 patents filed in the last year's time. The issue is properly managing the the wad once things really heat up. Velocity management is not easy.
For those that can remember there is always the Telecartirdge, 450 fps, impulse based, complete (100%) flash and bang captured....."It was designed by Robert Schnepfe in 1967 for a U.S.Navy contract for a low-signature munition that could be fired and ejected from standard military 12 gauge shotguns. The munition was required to possess a high hit-and-kill probability at short range in quick-reaction situations to poorly defined targets. When perfected, it was destined for use in jungle operations by navy SEALS and Marine Corps Reconnaissance Teams. It employed the AAI-patented powder-actuated Telecartridge device conceived originally for use in missiles. It was designed not to rupture during or after the power stroke. It was then adapted to the development of the Silent Shotgun Shell. By early 1968 samples were being tested. The payload consisted of 12 hardened No. 4 buckshot, arranged in three interlocking rows. Excluding the plastic pusher, the payload weighed slightly more than 0.5 ounce. It was sealed by an aluminuim, cup-shaped closure disc. A sealing compound waterproofed the mouth. It was 2.5 inches long unfired. Fired, the expanded Telecatridge cup protruded from the mouth of the case approximately .32 inch or about the same as the fold crimp on a standard shell. The prototype rounds had a muzzle velocity of 550 fps, however testing revealed excessive shot dispersion and some failures at this velocity. A reduction to 450 fps solved all of these problems. The round was said to be quieter in functioning than the mechanical, repicrocating noises of the weapon that fired it. Its sound signature was considerably lower than that of the best firearms suppressors of the day."
http://homepage3.nifty.com/gun45/syouonsandan.jpg
http://homepage3.nifty.com/gun45/syouonsandan2.jpg
Or at 3.5 lbs...Tacops?
http://www.tacticaloperations.com/swatsep2000/pic4.jpg
http://www.tacticaloperations.com/swatsep2000/pic5.jpg
Live in Finland? BR-Tuote..
http://guns.connect.fi/gow/shotgsup.jpg
Great things are about to drop on this one...hang on.
Re: Suppresing a shotgun?
Hard to imagine .24 lead balls penetrating very far @ 450fps.
Now a 225gr slug would be a different deal.
Not that I would want to be the test dummy for either.
Hard to imagine .24 lead balls penetrating very far @ 450fps.
Now a 225gr slug would be a different deal.
Not that I would want to be the test dummy for either.
Re: Suppresing a shotgun?
Not tactical, at all, but I saw a film of some guys in england hunting geese using a very long (+/- 5') extension that threaded into the choke tube. it had holes drilled into the extension and disipated the noise very well. It may have been a hunting show on Out Door Channel
Not tactical, at all, but I saw a film of some guys in england hunting geese using a very long (+/- 5') extension that threaded into the choke tube. it had holes drilled into the extension and disipated the noise very well. It may have been a hunting show on Out Door Channel
Re: Suppresing a shotgun?
Suppressed 12 ga by Red Stick Firearms seen here:
http://www.redstick-firearms.com/suppressors/suppressors.html
Suppressed 12 ga by Red Stick Firearms seen here:
http://www.redstick-firearms.com/suppressors/suppressors.html
