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Supreme Court blocks Biden student loan forgiveness.

Just set the interest rate to 0%. Helps loan repayment while also making people pay back their loans. Seems like a happy middle ground and it wouldn't violate any laws (to my knowledge).
 
Just set the interest rate to 0%. Helps loan repayment while also making people pay back their loans. Seems like a happy middle ground and it wouldn't violate any laws (to my knowledge).
Sure, but what bank is going to offer that 0% loan? Or if you mean on existing loans, who is going to pay the bank for carrying that interest free loan?

The answer is ALWAYS the taxpayer. Maybe some of you geniuses should go take an economics class.

I’ll summarize for you all:

THERE IS NO FREE LUNCH!!!
 
Sure, but what bank is going to offer that 0% loan? Or if you mean on existing loans, who is going to pay the bank for carrying that interest free loan?

The answer is ALWAYS the taxpayer. Maybe some of you geniuses should go take an economics class.

I’ll summarize for you all:

THERE IS NO FREE LUNCH!!!

Loans owned by the government can be set to 0%. If it's a financial institution that owns the loans then tough titties.

There most certainly are free lunches or do you not remember the corporate bailouts?

Also, the banks were bailed out in 2008.
 
Love it. That's a lot of hours at Starbucks those gender studies baristas are going to have to work. F'm. You make your bed, you sleep in it.
 
Loans owned by the government can be set to 0%. If it's a financial institution that owns the loans then tough titties.

There most certainly are free lunches or do you not remember the corporate bailouts?

Also, the banks were bailed out in 2008.
And that money came from the thin air? Where is it exactly that you think the government gets the money they so freely sling around.

That lunch must be paid for by someone, if not the freeloaders being bought by the swamp. You and I pay for every-fucking-thing. Well, maybe I assume too much. Taxpayers like myself pay for everything. So I repeat for the thick of skull:

THERE IS NO FUCKING FREE LUNCH!!
 
Just set the interest rate to 0%. Helps loan repayment while also making people pay back their loans. Seems like a happy middle ground and it wouldn't violate any laws (to my knowledge).
Sure, but what bank is going to offer that 0% loan? Or if you mean on existing loans, who is going to pay the bank for carrying that interest free loan?

The answer is ALWAYS the taxpayer. Maybe some of you geniuses should go take an economics class.

I’ll summarize for you all:

THERE IS NO FREE LUNCH!!!

Loans owned by the government can be set to 0%. If it's a financial institution that owns the loans then tough titties.

There most certainly are free lunches or do you not remember the corporate bailouts?

Also, the banks were bailed out in 2008.
And that money came from the thin air? Where is it exactly that you think the government gets the money they so freely sling around.

That lunch must be paid for by someone, if not the freeloaders being bought by the swamp. You and I pay for every-fucking-thing. Well, maybe I assume too much. Taxpayers like myself pay for everything. So I repeat for the thick of skull:

THERE IS NO FUCKING FREE LUNCH!!

Financial institutions have a right to engage in business and make money. The way they make money is charging interest on loans.

When the government tells a business that they are not permitted to make a profit in one aspect of their business; i.e., student loans versus all other loans, then that business has to make up that lost income elsewhere.

The banks will make up that lost income by charging other borrowers more interest. When a person files for bankruptcy, the debts that are discharged don't merely disappear. Well they disappear for the debtor but not for the creditor.

The creditor has lost income in the form of interest along with the money they loaned the bankrupt debtor. So where is the creditor going to make up that loss?

They can claim a loss on income taxes and also charge more for goods, services or interest to other consumers.

Too many people are using bankruptcy as a way of shedding debt that they have the ability to pay. In other words, bankruptcy isn't used to rescue someone from financial disaster through no fault of their own. It's a financial management tool.

If someone is stricken with a disabling disease and no longer able to work, that's what bankruptcy laws were designed for. It was a way to rescue someone from financial disaster.

Yours truly has a scumbag sister that used the bankruptcy court to get rid of her and her husband's debt. Primary residences and automobiles are protected assets. They cannot be seized and if able to pay the mortgage, the debtor isn't discharged from that debt.

So guess what sister and brother-in-law did? After getting rid of all their other debt, they paid off their mortgage early - VERY early!

The ex-wife was always fond of telling me how much smarter she was than me with money. Well she was so smart that she got rid of her debts through bankruptcy. The biggest laugh that I got was that she stiffed her divorce attorney for $40,000!

Regardless of that, her student loan debt wasn't cancelled. It can't be cancelled if the debtor is gainfully employed as a result of the education she received which was paid for by the student loan. So the witch still owes about $75,000 in student loan debt!

Please pardon the lengthy post but I am going somewhere with this.

After the ex-wife was discharged of all of her debts except for those mentioned above, she goes on a lot of vacations! That's right, it's a lot easier to go on vacation to nice places when you don't owe as many people as you did before.

So guess who pays for that? If you have been paying attention, we ultimately pay for dead beats like my sister and ex-wife.

So let's poo-poo the idea of interest free loans for degrees in gender studies and Marxism.
 
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now if the supreme court would only pull the plug on bidens life support we could watch him fall one last time and sing
 
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Well, "stealth" court packing, anyway. I think, in re: these recent decisions, Biden has already been quoted as saying, "Court packing is not the way...."

Well, not "today," anyway.... They can't do that while we're watching them directly. But when we turn our attention away.....

We really have to ensure the good health of Justices Thomas and Alito.
And I say our country dodged a bullet when Garland was prvented a seat on SCOTUS. That hook nosed son of a bitch has absolutely no integrity.
 
And that money came from the thin air? Where is it exactly that you think the government gets the money they so freely sling around.

That lunch must be paid for by someone, if not the freeloaders being bought by the swamp. You and I pay for every-fucking-thing. Well, maybe I assume too much. Taxpayers like myself pay for everything. So I repeat for the thick of skull:

THERE IS NO FUCKING FREE LUNCH!!

So the people paid for a bailout of a corporation....sounds like a free lunch to me for the corporation.

How about welfare? That is a free lunch for those that receive it.

Social security once the recipient exceeds what they paid into it is a free lunch for the recipient.

For a federal loan dropped to 0% (loans already taken out not new loans, government should get out of loans) how would that require tax payer money. It is not a relief on the balance but rather the interest rate. It isn't a free lunch either, they still have to pay back the balance.
 
So the people paid for a bailout of a corporation....sounds like a free lunch to me for the corporation.

How about welfare? That is a free lunch for those that receive it.

Social security once the recipient exceeds what they paid into it is a free lunch for the recipient.

For a federal loan dropped to 0%, how would that require tax payer money. It is not a relief on the balance but rather the interest rate. It isn't a free lunch either, they still have to pay back the balance.
Who even cares which votes and favors the politicians are buying? When you truly realize that it’s always the taxpayer who is funding it (the interest on the debt only).
 
Who even cares which votes and favors the politicians are buying? When you truly realize that it’s always the taxpayer who is funding it (the interest on the debt only).

I realize the tax payer funds everything but in this instance it wouldn't require money from the taxpayer.

Biden's original plan and I'm assuming whatever he tries to do next will require tax payer money. This is a easy win that Republicans can propose and get credit for.

Yes I know political parties are bad but we all know it's a two party system so we are on the republican bandwagon until a better option presents itself.
 

Roberts calling out political activism being done from the Bench by Sotomayor, Kegan & Jackson-Brown:


“It has become a disturbing feature of some recent opinions to criticize the decisions with which they disagree as going beyond the proper role of the judiciary,” Roberts wrote. He said the majority came to its decision by adhering to court precedent “old and new” that “requires that Congress speak clearly before a Department Secretary can unilaterally alter large sections of the American economy.”
“We have employed the traditional tools of judicial decision-making in doing so. Reasonable minds may disagree with our analysis — in fact, at least three do,” Roberts wrote, referencing Justices Sonia Sotomayor, Ketanji Brown Jackson and Elena Kagan, who wrote the dissenting opinion.
“We do not mistake this plainly heartfelt disagreement for disparagement,” Roberts said.
“It is important that the public not be misled either. Any such misperception would be harmful to this institution and our country,” he added.
 
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I have an out of the box solution. Corporate sponsorship. Corporations would 'sponsor' students. Students can apply for this sponsorship with participating corporate sponsors. If accepted, they'd attend 'activities' at the corporate sponsors location of choice and in return the corporation would apply 'credits' towards repayment of the student loan.
Had that for decades - we called it the GI Bill
 
I was really torn on this one. On one side it’s pretty fucked up for taxpayers to have to pay off other people’s student loans, but on the other side it was amazing to see tax payer money actually used for U.S. Citizens-ish for the first time in our nation’s history.

I mean, taxes are already as high as most commie and socialist countries, but they (commie and socialist fucks) get healthcare and education. Americans just get more welfare and wars.

I figured the politicians are going to steal and waste the money anyway so I’d rather they relieved debt for Americans instead of funding gender studies in Pakistan.

Oh well. I stand ready to fill the void and provide debt relief to hot women.
 
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Never loan money to anyone who says that student loan debt forgiveness doesn't cost anything. And if those same people went to college, they should be asking for a refund.
 
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That's what the democrats have wanted to do all this time. However, I think that they will be quiet about it until they cheat again in 2024. Their plan will be to pack the court then.

If they say anything more about court packing now, it might cost them the election. They may be crazy but they're smart enough to keep their mouths shut on this.

I hope that I'm wrong and they start screaming about court packing now. Hopefully it will scare the hell out of Americans that are just now catching on to what democrats are really about.

Regardless of what people think of Trump, if it wasn't for him, we would not have a conservative court. Let's hope Trump reminds everyone of how he shaped the Federal judiciary with his appointments.
How is it going to cost them the election?
 
How is it going to cost them the election?
IMHO, most of the public is satisfied with the size of the SCOTUS now. If the democrats try to push it now, it would be too early and scare some voters that might be on the fence and they will vote republican.

If they can steal the next election, they will try to pack the court then.

I could be wrong but that's my two cents worth.
 
That's what the democrats have wanted to do all this time. However, I think that they will be quiet about it until they cheat again in 2024. Their plan will be to pack the court then.

If they say anything more about court packing now, it might cost them the election. They may be crazy but they're smart enough to keep their mouths shut on this.

I hope that I'm wrong and they start screaming about court packing now. Hopefully it will scare the hell out of Americans that are just now catching on to what democrats are really about.

Regardless of what people think of Trump, if it wasn't for him, we would not have a conservative court. Let's hope Trump reminds everyone of how he shaped the Federal judiciary with his appointments.
Wrong Cori Bush and others have already started to scream about packing the courts. Remember spoiled rotten bastards who dont get their way are never smart they just want what they want.
 
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Wrong Cori Bush and others have already started to scream about packing the courts. Remember spoiled rotten bastards who dont get their way are never smart they just want what they want.
Okay but has the MSM started to scream about this yet? Remember that the democrats play chess while republicans play checkers.

I hope that I'm wrong with my theory. If the democrats make too much noise about this before 2024, they could overplay their hand. I wish there were more Cori Bushes crying about this.
 
There was a guy who graduated from high school. He went to the bank and borrowed money to buy a tractor and a planter. He worked night and day for years to repay his version of a student loan. His work produced the food you eat.

There was a guy who graduated from high school. He went to the bank and borrowed money for a HVAC service van. He worked night and day for years to repay his version of a student loan. His work keeps you cool today.

Where should I stop,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
You can't farm with just equipment.

HVAC people go to school.
 
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Putting the gender drama aside - this is how the Dems have always played politics. They buy votes.

Repubs go for corp cash and wars and Dems go for entitlement.

This was a good day for accountability. Just ironic given the judges are all on the take.
Meanwhile in the actual world I can't think of many corporations that aren't showing their leftist leanings. Democrats launder that corporate money by making donations in the names of people who didn't actually donate to them.
 
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Okay but has the MSM started to scream about this yet? Remember that the democrats play chess while republicans play checkers.

I hope that I'm wrong with my theory. If the democrats make too much noise about this before 2024, they could overplay their hand. I wish there were more Cori Bushes crying about this.
It's theater, not a match of wits.
 
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It's theater, not a match of wits.

Yeah, but the problem is the "audience" viewing that theater. That audience is more likely to believe the theater as Gospel and not question it.

It's all a battle for the "Sheeples." We have to be better at reaching them and with points that make sense to them. We have to get more sheeples on our side.
 
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Yeah, but the problem is the "audience" viewing that theater. That audience is more likely to believe the theater as Gospel and not question it.

It's all a battle for the "Sheeples." We have to be better at reaching them and with points that make sense to them. We have to get more sheeples on our side.
I see. Thats how we vote our way out of this. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: The battle for the steeple is done. They will continue to do whatever they want with no repercussions. Soon they will be coming to get people for talking about unapproved stuff. History repeats.

The left literally declared civil war in 2016, but the Bugaloo boys garnered all the alphabet attention. Moms who don't want their kids wearing useless masks or getting their genitals mutilated are the terrorists. BLM said they would burn the country and come attack the rural areas if they didn't gt what they want. But right wing extremism is THE existential threat.
 
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Yeah, but the problem is the "audience" viewing that theater. That audience is more likely to believe the theater as Gospel and not question it.

It's all a battle for the "Sheeples." We have to be better at reaching them and with points that make sense to them. We have to get more sheeples on our side.
I see. Thats how we vote our way out of this. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: The battle for the steeple is done. They will continue to do whatever they want with no repercussions. Soon they will be coming to get people for talking about unapproved stuff. History repeats.

The left literally declared civil war in 2016, but the Bugaloo boys garnered all the alphabet attention. Moms who don't want their kids wearing useless masks or getting their genitals mutilated are the terrorists. BLM said they would burn the country and come attack the rural areas if they didn't gt what they want. But right wing extremism is THE existential threat.
It is estimated that during the revolutionary war, only about 3% of the population did the fighting. Probably about half the population were a bunch of Tories.
 
You can't farm with just equipment.

HVAC people go to school.
Tradesmen go to local tech colleges, live a frugal lifestyle, and do not run up student debt. They are not in luxury student housing eating luxury catered meals and $10 coffee-like drinks
 
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I see. Thats how we vote our way out of this. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: The battle for the sheeple is done. They will continue to do whatever they want with no repercussions. Soon they will be coming to get people for talking about unapproved stuff. History repeats. FIFY

The left literally declared civil war in 2016, but the Bugaloo boys garnered all the alphabet attention. Moms who don't want their kids wearing useless masks or getting their genitals mutilated are the terrorists. BLM said they would burn the country and come attack the rural areas if they didn't gt what they want. But right wing extremism is THE existential threat.

Then we fight fire with fire! They call us extremists, we throw it right back in their faces. We don't have to be "violent" like them... just as "vocal" and "in their face" with it... as much as they are with us. We show those sheeples that there are alternatives. I don't believe we are beyond any/all hope of reaching them. For one thing, I think they will, eventually, become disillusioned when the left's policies don't make their lives better, but even worse! That's when we need to be there to show them a different/better way.

It is estimated that during the revolutionary war, only about 3% of the population did the fighting. Probably about half the population were a bunch of Tories.

Sadly, I honestly think it may very well come to us needing that "3%" once again. And we all need to be prepared for that. I truly hope it never comes to that, but we need to be ready.
 
Tradesmen go to local tech colleges, live a frugal lifestyle, and do not run up student debt. They are not in luxury student housing eating luxury catered meals and $10 coffee-like drinks
Funny, I had student debt after trade school.

What's a "local tech school"? Mine was local somewhere but not to where I was from.

Luxury student housing and luxury student meals. In college. 🤣🤣🤣

Are you attempting satire?
 
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I beginning to wonder how many of the baristas with degrees in gender studies are going to be looking for a sugar daddy to pay off their student loans🤣
 
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Tradesmen go to local tech colleges, live a frugal lifestyle, and do not run up student debt. They are not in luxury student housing eating luxury catered meals and $10 coffee-like drinks

I'm sure luxury student housing exists but most of the dorms I've seen and stayed in were shit holes. Also, I'm pretty sure they put laxatives in the food there...always gave me the shits (definitely not luxury food).
 
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Meanwhile in the actual world I can't think of many corporations that aren't showing their leftist leanings. Democrats launder that corporate money by making donations in the names of people who didn't actually donate to them.
May I sit at your feet and listen to all your experience based wisdom?
 
I took out student loans to attend University. I took the maximum loans I could get, then my dad took loans for the remainder. The same deal he made for the other kids. Although, after one experience with a different sibling, he capped the yearly tuition I was allowed. Not claiming I did it on my own, but I didn't get a free lunch either.

Luxury housing was nowhere to be found, at least for me; I did know several people who had very plush digs, including a couple people whose daddy's bought them houses. I stayed in the dorms. The dorm was actually supposed to be torn down and had been vacant the year prior, but the school had too many students and not enough dorms, so they reopened it. It was built before the Depression.

The meal-plan food was certainly nothing to write home about but it fulfilled its intended purpose. Jimmy John's day-old bread for 25c made many a sandwich.

Once I moved into off-campus housing it was much the same, beat up, dilapidated and drafty. You could see outside between the door jambs. Except now I had monthly rent to pay.

I secured gainful employment the first week of school, working for a local archery company afternoon's afternoon's weekends. During school breaks, I went back home and worked on a horse farm. Made $5.00/hr, 2 usually hot meals and a cold beer per day.

I didn't go on summer vacations, winter vacations or Spring Break. While "everyone else" was partying in FL or Mexico or the Carolina's, I was mucking stalls and building fences and fixing gates. I did go on one spring break actually; my best friend and I went to his dad's lake house in FL. I got shingles the second day. And learned my lesson about vacations...

After school I lived within my means, rented an apartment with a couple friends, found gainful employment (in a recession, even!), and continued driving the used base model vehicle I bought for University. I saved money, and paid my bills (and loans!). I still did not take vacations or go on trips, while my friends were living it up travelling Europe, backpacking and generally enjoying the fuck out of life.

By 29 I paid off my student loans, had bought a nicer (used) car that I also paid off early, bought a rare motorcycle, also paid, and was generally living debt free. My friends that did all the travelling and had the most amazing pictures and stories on Facebook, had credit card debt up to their eyeballs, years of loans left, high interest car loans and luxury apartments.

Which of us do you reckon is the ones calling for "loan forgiveness"?

I'm on-board with the idea that we should be getting better with each passing generation and that the up-and-comers shouldn't have to do, be forced to do,, things just because those who came before them did. Like I had a boss that had me, alone, on call 24x7x365, unpaid, and his justification was "I had to do it, you do too." Well that's just stupid; let's find smarter, more efficient ways to work.

But this is different, this is attempting to absolve people of the consequences of their actions, actions they willingly undertook. This is telling people, hey you don't have to honor your word, or contracts you enter. What's next, then, if "loan forgiveness " gets passed?

These are the same people that think 16 year olds should be able to vote, yet tell you en-mass they didn't understand interest, repayment periods or how loans work. And y'all want to VOTE?
 
Your universities have huuuge financial bases, and pay no tax on their endowments.

Why not make them lend the money to students? I suspect that very quickly there would be a shift towards courses that give students the ability to repay their loans, and there would probably be a reduction in administrators taking care that lesbians who identify as rabbits are properly catered for.
 
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