Target rounds not good for protection?
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So techniques evolve but by an large, ammo stays the same. However since you want to cling to the latest fad, I'm sure you'll be on your way to Cabelas to buy a box of zombie ammo.
I've already given way too much insight to a couple troll posts
how bout a 460 with lead cast solids 350gr? all I know is if you get shot by one your in trouble. (I'm not trolling) Whats your opinion on the super short shotguns?
cast FP ammo is NOT FMJ, and has a different wound channel... ever notice how FP makes nice cut holes in paper?.. and FMJs dont?... same effect in soft tissue
flat nose configuration that causes substantial tissue disruption as it penetrates. This disruption is actually caused by the tissue being crushed by the wake of the projectile through the soft tissues and creates a permanent wound channel that doesn't close back after the bullet passes. The energy of the bullet can destroy muscle tissue, break bone and liquify organs such as the lungs. The hard-cast bullet uses the penetration of it's heavy weight
Target rounds not good for protection?
In the past twenty years ammunition has developed more, and faster, than have firearms.
Techniques do evolve, but they also devolve. On the whole, correct pistol technique has evolved. But any real change in tactics has taken place in both directions at the same time.
So, yes, send me all the Zombie ammo you don't want. It works on the same principles as does any other ammo.
That is not correct.
In the past twenty years ammunition has developed more, and faster, than have firearms.
Techniques do evolve, but they also devolve. On the whole, correct pistol technique has evolved. But any real change in tactics has taken place in both directions at the same time.
So, yes, send me all the Zombie ammo you don't want. It works on the same principles as does any other ammo.
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I would have to agree with some of the earlier. Dont worry about the little things. Go shoot more. Shot placement is always key. You could have the super duper mac daddy blue light bought after 10 pm on the harvest moon in October baddest a$$ hollow point on the planet in your home defense platform (notice I refuse to say weapon) and it really wont amount to spit if you dont hit your target. Just shoot have fun and God forbid the time ever come when you have to actually be in the situation where it is a matter of you or ?....Your life will be changed for ever.
My .02
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My .02
Bones
Target ammo from a retailer is almost always a full metal jacket (FMJ). FMJ's are the go to cartriges for training in many government organizations. Also, many FMJ's are used in combat because they are more apt to penetrate light body armor (LBA). If you'll notice, a 124 gn, 9x19mm NATO cartrige has more energy (ft-lbs) than the best 124 gn, +P, hollow point (HP), personal protection +P cartriges have significantly more ft-lbs than the average target ammo of the same bullet weight. NATO cartriges have greater velocity and energy to help penetrate LBA. Hollow points don't stand a chance at penetrating LBA and have been banned for use in much of the military. The basis is that HP's are not effective against LBA and have been deemed cruel and unusual because 100% of their energy would be dumped upon impact with the LBA.
That being said, Hornady Critical Duty are personal defense cartriges and they are not a FMJ nor a true HP. They have a flex tip in the center of what would normally be an HP. The flex tip is designed to take the resistance of impact and force the modified HP to be opened and provide a greater wound cavity, while coming close to the ballistics of a FMJ.
Bottom line is that FMJ's have an almost 100% chance of going through without much of a wound cavity as well as a greater potential to continue after exiting and potentially hitting an innocent bystander. While some HP's don't expand as well as they should, other HP's expand effectively. There are a few bullets that are known for consistently expanding upon impact, thus creating a larger wound cavity. The Federal HST HP, Speer Gold Dot HP, and the Sig V-Crown. I know I've left one out buy I'm sure someone will chime in and mention it.
I purposely use 124 gn, 9x19mm NATO cartriges because their feet per second (fps) and energy (ft-lbs) are almost the same as a 124 gn +P personal protection cartrige. My sights don't need adjusting because the trajectory of those two are very similar to each other.
I hope this helps you understand the basics of personal protection, common target, and NATO cartriges.
Best of luck to you.
No bot here. Just true factual information given because I was searching for something on the web when I stumbled upon this thread. Is there something I said that is wrong, or are you just distracted from the points I made that weren't all mentioned previously? I'm surprised that you responded the way you did. Bot? Really? Not hardly. Internal, external, and terminal ballistics analysis for 15 years as a PI and 8 years of practical application as a U.S. Marine. Meritoriously promoted to LCpl and Sgt. I think I might know just a little bit. However, I'm always learning because I consider myself to never stop learning. I'm sorry that you jump to conclusions like that, simply because the OP is nearly 12 years old. Have a good night
Not uncommon for bots to necro threads while trying to pump their fake post count.. This is a spicy bot.
If you're a Marine an a moderator, you're sure being a dick about it to another brother.
That would have actually been the ideal option for you when you were first considering typing your original reply to this 12 year old thread. Instead you posted shit nobody gives a fuck about on an old ass thread because you’re a retard.
Well. Alrighty then...take a few days off to contemplate who you want to fuck with, because it isn't going to be me.
Yeah! You tell ‘em load a Joey! Eff ‘em! Right up the Ying…
…Yang!
Dang it @MarinePMI you banned him right when I was tryna wind him up more lol
Sorry. Dude sounded like a boot trying to talk shit to a bunch of salts...Yeah! You tell ‘em load a Joey! Eff ‘em! Right up the Ying…
…Yang!
Dang it @MarinePMI you banned him right when I was tryna wind him up more lol
I’ve been having some restless nights recently. I have a feeling I’m going to sleep like a baby tonight thanks to this token of knowledge that we were graced with today. I have been waiting 12 years for this.
Someone remind me to get his opinion on Quigley-Ford scopes when they get out of timeout.
