The way most government organizations are run it is theft. Obviously there are exceptions to this rule and things I like paying for that I appreciate, but 100% they could operate better under an independent organization.
That’s a chicken shit argument. This republic belongs to the citizens. The politicians have used blatant lies and distortions to persuade citizens to give them the power to take a portion of their lives to use as they see fit, then once they have that power, they change the rules. Take the income tax for example. Congress used the argument that if they got the power to tax incomes, it would only be 2% and they would never raise that rate. Within one year of the law being passed, they promptly raised the rates, and have been manipulating them ever since.
You use the argument that we can either vote them out or leave. Well, we can’t vote a law out, only try to elect enough people to vote them out. And there are far too many people directly benefiting from other people’s money for that to happen. So, that leaves moving away. Or in other words, giving even more of my life and property for the privilege of relocating to another place that’s gonna steal my life and property. Still theft....
Sales tax here is already 10%.
" It must always be a choice. "
Not being disrespectful, but you (or anyone else) have that choice, and are free to leave if you dont want to pay. No one is forcing you to stay. If you stay you need to play by the rules or change them. Simple.
The rules don't need to be changed, they need to be obeyed.
Let's start with Congress passing a budget to fund all those powers listed in the Enumerated Powers Clause - then stopping and going home!
No more adding up crushing debt that can never be paid purchasing votes, which they've gotten down to a science.
The rules don't need to be changed, they need to be obeyed.
Let's start with Congress passing a budget to fund all those powers listed in the Enumerated Powers Clause - then stopping and going home!
No more adding up crushing debt that can never be paid purchasing votes, which they've gotten down to a science.
Don't like those rules? Leave! Be a parasite in some other country. May I suggest Venezuela. I hear winters are very mild.
If this country was say, the UK, the "you can leave if you dont like it" argument would work. But the fashion of how this country was founded and the structure laid out is how it should still be. The feds changed that, not us. The correct argument would be, "if the people calling the shots in the fed gov dont like how its suppose to be, THEY can leave." They are the ones who morphed the country into what it is from what it once was and was meant to be. Not the citizens.
Social security is a complete joke. If the SS plan was offered by the free market, it would be the worst retirement plan in history and no one would choose it. The money you have paid for SS your whole life, would be double in return over what you collect now. But I dont need the fed to tell me how to save for my future. I know what investments best suit me and my needs. It's called personal accountability. Something this current Gov doesnt believe in.
Here’s another to chew on. I’m fishing couple weeks ago . There’s a government boat going everywhere and shocking up fish to see if their healthy . I stopped and ask em what they were doing. They said checking fish. Then I ask em, what u gonna do if they don’t look good. The guy looked at me and said nothing! I looked at him and said. Nice cushy job u have there commie!
There is no law saying you have to pay a tax on your wages. It’s voluntary compliance." It must always be a choice. "
Not being disrespectful, but you (or anyone else) have that choice, and are free to leave if you dont want to pay. No one is forcing you to stay. If you stay you need to play by the rules or change them. Simple.
First part of the quote: Really? C’mon. What kind of advice is that flippant reply? I guarantee I have paid and sometimes continue to pay usurous tax rates through most of my working years. Does it piss me off? Damn right. I can trace my lineage to the beginning of this country and some of us in every major war. We fucking paid our dues and continue to pay. That reply pisses me off.Please, if youre unhappy leave. Or work to change it for the better.
As you mentioned in an earlier post, do your research.I think its a great program. Pays me a nice chunk of dough every month, and free (paid for in advance) medical care.
The problem is that parasites raped it for their own benefit.
First part of the quote: Really? C’mon. What kind of advice is that flippant reply? I guarantee I have paid and sometimes continue to pay usurous tax rates through most of my working years. Does it piss me off? Damn right. I can trace my lineage to the beginning of this country and some of us in every major war. We fucking paid our dues and continue to pay. That reply pisses me off.
One of the flaws in the “go somewhere else” argument is if they take you up on it then your annuity from highly paid goes away. Try funding all the garbage then.
Secondly, how can you rant about immigrants in one guise or another then encourage it elsewhere with that comment.
Second part of the quote: Valid point. I do work to change it. I might ask you the same: what do you actually do to change it? I do so in many ways. Through political contributions, showing up to actually meet and discuss with them (one on one or with an aide)and lastly through trying to help people financially that I don’t know and will probably never meet just because they have a story of some kind and I personally believe good things for good people pays future dividends. Doesn’t matter if I see them or not. I see that as potential capital for our republic.
As you mentioned in an earlier post, do your research.
In 1983 the law was changed. That made a budgetary change that recatorgorized how FICA contributions were held as a line item. The issue lies with the 1983 law and politicians. Can’t blame current pols for spending “general fund” money. They don’t know where it comes from nor care. Most of those yo-yo’s can barely speak coherently let alone read a spreadsheet.
Second, there are two “trust funds” not one. It’s plural.
First is OASI. Old age and survivors income. That’s the checks (deposits) you receive. That fund is considered solvent and actually ran a surplus for a number of years. Unfortunately, the solvency starts dropping in 2020. As an FYI, current contributions make up about 73 cents of each SS dollar, thus the argument about total insolvency is not currently valid. More of a political red herring.
I find that most find it hard to take handouts and then criticize them.
Please spare me the “I paid in for x years so it owes me” or the “it’s really my money” or the it’s an “investment return” argument. Your contributions (not investments) were sent back to someone else in the form of THEIR SS check within days of being sent in. There is nor ever was any true investment component involved.
Ok, flame away all.
There is no law saying you have to pay a tax on your wages. It’s voluntary compliance.
Forgot.
On the “free medical care”. First, no such thing. Someone is paying for it. Your $135 month out of your SS and everyone else’s 2.9 % in payroll taxes. Like hell its free.
If SS was a private program everyone involved in it would be in prison a long time go. It’s a Ponzie scheme in every respect except it’s not a secret that it’s an unsustainable pyramid scheme that is totally doomed to bankruptcy, except for the fact they fund it by force.If this country was say, the UK, the "you can leave if you dont like it" argument would work. But the fashion of how this country was founded and the structure laid out is how it should still be. The feds changed that, not us. The correct argument would be, "if the people calling the shots in the fed gov dont like how its suppose to be, THEY can leave." They are the ones who morphed the country into what it is from what it once was and was meant to be. Not the citizens.
Social security is a complete joke. If the SS plan was offered by the free market, it would be the worst retirement plan in history and no one would choose it. The money you have paid for SS your whole life, would be double in return over what you collect now. But I dont need the fed to tell me how to save for my future. I know what investments best suit me and my needs. It's called personal accountability. Something this current Gov doesnt believe in.
I read this a while ago and it has stayed with me since that time...
Economics in 5 sentences
1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.
2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!
5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation.
I question everything. I love playing Devils's Advocate because it makes me think out side the box. Too bad if it offends you but thats what freedom is about.
You really need to improve youre reading comprehension.
I never told you to leave. I said you have the right to. Big difference. Or to change it. Options are what its about.
Toodles.
Youre so funny. Just pissed because I cut you off from the oral UTI injections, eh?Really? REALLY? Are you off your fucking Meds? What a fucking Hypocrite. AS SOON AS YOU'RE OFFENDED EACH AND EVERY GAWD DAMN TIME WHAT DO YOU DO MAGGOT? YOU TRY TO SUPPRESS SOMEONE ELSE'S FREEDOM BECAUSE IT DOESN'T FIT IN WITH YOUR WARPED AGENDA. You honestly sicken the hell outta me man, and many others. You're showing just how unstable you really are. Now get offended, report to whomever just how offended you are, then get back to showing everyone just how "PHILOSOPHICAL" you really are with all that knowledge of all things important in your warped world. Devils Advocate Indeed. lol
GTFO
Thats funny.