Texas Plinking 10 rd Group at 1K Yards Challenge Videos
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I would suggest 300 Win Mag. Ryan Cleckner carried one in service in the GWOT when he was sniper team leader in the 1st Ranger Battalion 75th Ranger Regiment. His job was contacting an IPSC kind of target at various distances. He would dial elevation and hold left or right edge of target zone into the wind. Granted, most of his shots in service were less than 600 yards but it is a good place to start.
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I primarily shoot 215's from my winmag and at 600 yards I haven't shot in wind yet that I've had to hold off of an IPSC size target.
I was just thinking, if I wanted to give myself every advantage I could in a situation like this, what would be the absolute best bullet for the job. I've been entertaining the idea of the Warner flatline 190's.
What case are are you using? Barrel twist?
Obvious answer is highest bc bullet that can be pushed fast enough to take advantage of it. A heavy for caliber bullet won't make much sense if the case doesn't have enough powder capacity to push it.
I was shooting norma brass. It's about at the end of ots life. Just picked a hundred pieces of Peterson long I need to fire form.
Barrel is a 9 twist Bart finished at 26"
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Whatever shoots best in your rifle man. I'd probably try to stick with a Berger if I could get the accuracy out if it that I was looking for. That's just based on less BC variation from bullet to bullet. Probably 215, or 200.20x is what I'd try. And I'd chase ES and SD more than I would velocity.
Plenty of dudes have hit the plate with other bullets though, a lot of it is luck. A lot of times guys have hit the plate out of nowhere, or tagged the plate and then can't get near the half-minute one.
I'm pretty happy with the load at the moment. This morning was better than most. Sd is usually in the 5-7 range on longer strings. If I get single digit sd I'm happy. This morning was a few months ago.
Now I just need the guy to message me back. Don't want to do it, but I might have to join his patreon.
You should mention to him that you have an all Arken/Outlier build. That ought to get his shill blood flowing. Then show up with your rig and play like you forgot.
Episode 7
He made it all on an IPSC paper. As a military sniper, these would have been valid hits. But the wind variations made this system about 2 MOA. Still not bad for 1k yards.
Edited to add - my comment about military snipers comes from reading of the experiences of Ryan Cleckner. On deployment, he rarely shot past 600 yards and his target was IPSC size.
He made it all on an IPSC paper. As a military sniper, these would have been valid hits. But the wind variations made this system about 2 MOA. Still not bad for 1k yards.
Edited to add - my comment about military snipers comes from reading of the experiences of Ryan Cleckner. On deployment, he rarely shot past 600 yards and his target was IPSC size.
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After the second round I thought to myself, well, there goes the money. The rest did pretty good.
Can't say I could do any better. Best I've ever done was 8 for 10 at 1000. But my target was only 12" wide.
Waiting for republic rifles to open up so I can join and actually have a place to shoot distance that isn't four hours away. I think they're supposed to go to 1500, with plans to go farther.
Can't say I could do any better. Best I've ever done was 8 for 10 at 1000. But my target was only 12" wide.
Waiting for republic rifles to open up so I can join and actually have a place to shoot distance that isn't four hours away. I think they're supposed to go to 1500, with plans to go farther.
Episode 8 of 10 rounds at 1k yards.
I think this guy did pretty well, not counting the one flyer, most likely from a sudden gust near the target.
I think this guy did pretty well, not counting the one flyer, most likely from a sudden gust near the target.
You had probably just huffed a bagged fart from one of your big-tiddy goth broads, it’s understandable
I think that is called drunk-posting. Or, some other substance."
"I posted about my only fans.
And then I got high...."
That could have made you forget. Or, had some of the ganja first and then posted.
I’ve never been drunk, and I rarely drink more than a sip or two of anything in a decade and didn’t do it regularly before that. I might take a OTC pain reliever 1-2 times a year if that’s considered drug use.
But whatever helps you sleep.
Episode 9. The system performed well on the 1 MOA @ 1K challenge.
Different story on the 10 rd. I think because, all things considered, hitting steel on the 1 MOA challenge is lucky but the 10 round grouping is where you get your gluteae maximus handed back to you on a shaky paper plate.
Different story on the 10 rd. I think because, all things considered, hitting steel on the 1 MOA challenge is lucky but the 10 round grouping is where you get your gluteae maximus handed back to you on a shaky paper plate.
I think if he'd had his wind dialed right from the get go he'd have probably made it. When that first one landed in the head it was game over.
I've been watching these, the 1 MOA plate challenge, and Erik Cortina's Blackjack challenge. Overall, I think they're pretty eye-opening / grounding. I do notice a few common themes across all the challenges.
A lot of people spend a LOT of money on barrels, actions and optics, then cheap out in odd places. If you're fielding a $5k rifle shooting a $1200 challenge why are you doing it from a $50 Harris bipod? It's like the gym bros that park at the front door to avoid anything that might work their legs.
Very few people show up with factory guns but I've seen now a few AIs, a Seekins and a Sako TRG22A1. It's not "every one" but a goodly number of the high-dollar custom builds have significant and repeated feeding problems. One guy had to hit his bolt to open and close it. Another guy's rifle was refusing to mag feed and he was removing the mag on every reload and slamming it against the ground, then re-inserting it.
Another common issue, especially in the Blackjack challenge, is that many of the shooters do not seem to plan out their firing schedule well. For example, a right handed shooter will shoot 10 from the mag, then single feed the remaining 2, but have them just tossed on the mat on the left side, so that they a) can't see them, b) have to break position to locate and load them. It's a timed challenge!
Finally, as another poster commented, a good number of the shooters display poor fundamental marksmanship skills. Breaking position after every shot, poor trigger control, poor positioning, incorrect or sub-optimal rear bag employment, positional changes from shot to shot. And as the other poster noted, it's amazing how many of these shooters get on target despite a confluence of fundamental errors.
And now I have to wait a whole 5 days to go shooting again, myself
A lot of people spend a LOT of money on barrels, actions and optics, then cheap out in odd places. If you're fielding a $5k rifle shooting a $1200 challenge why are you doing it from a $50 Harris bipod? It's like the gym bros that park at the front door to avoid anything that might work their legs.
Very few people show up with factory guns but I've seen now a few AIs, a Seekins and a Sako TRG22A1. It's not "every one" but a goodly number of the high-dollar custom builds have significant and repeated feeding problems. One guy had to hit his bolt to open and close it. Another guy's rifle was refusing to mag feed and he was removing the mag on every reload and slamming it against the ground, then re-inserting it.
Another common issue, especially in the Blackjack challenge, is that many of the shooters do not seem to plan out their firing schedule well. For example, a right handed shooter will shoot 10 from the mag, then single feed the remaining 2, but have them just tossed on the mat on the left side, so that they a) can't see them, b) have to break position to locate and load them. It's a timed challenge!
Finally, as another poster commented, a good number of the shooters display poor fundamental marksmanship skills. Breaking position after every shot, poor trigger control, poor positioning, incorrect or sub-optimal rear bag employment, positional changes from shot to shot. And as the other poster noted, it's amazing how many of these shooters get on target despite a confluence of fundamental errors.
And now I have to wait a whole 5 days to go shooting again, myself
And I have seen that happen with the Perla challenge, as well. Feeding problems under a timed event and shooting the different targets requires a change of natural point of aim.I've been watching these, the 1 MOA plate challenge, and Erik Cortina's Blackjack challenge. Overall, I think they're pretty eye-opening / grounding. I do notice a few common themes across all the challenges.
A lot of people spend a LOT of money on barrels, actions and optics, then cheap out in odd places. If you're fielding a $5k rifle shooting a $1200 challenge why are you doing it from a $50 Harris bipod? It's like the gym bros that park at the front door to avoid anything that might work their legs.
Very few people show up with factory guns but I've seen now a few AIs, a Seekins and a Sako TRG22A1. It's not "every one" but a goodly number of the high-dollar custom builds have significant and repeated feeding problems. One guy had to hit his bolt to open and close it. Another guy's rifle was refusing to mag feed and he was removing the mag on every reload and slamming it against the ground, then re-inserting it.
Another common issue, especially in the Blackjack challenge, is that many of the shooters do not seem to plan out their firing schedule well. For example, a right handed shooter will shoot 10 from the mag, then single feed the remaining 2, but have them just tossed on the mat on the left side, so that they a) can't see them, b) have to break position to locate and load them. It's a timed challenge!
Finally, as another poster commented, a good number of the shooters display poor fundamental marksmanship skills. Breaking position after every shot, poor trigger control, poor positioning, incorrect or sub-optimal rear bag employment, positional changes from shot to shot. And as the other poster noted, it's amazing how many of these shooters get on target despite a confluence of fundamental errors.
And now I have to wait a whole 5 days to go shooting again, myself
And I have seen a young guy do well on the 1 MOA at 1 k challenge with a relatively budget rig because his fundamentals were right, as was his reading of the wind.
And you are right, the big and heavy and expensive rifle on just about the cheapest of the Harris line. Like souping up an old Chevelle and then putting the cheapest thing on the rims that you can get at Walmart.
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