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That's not like my son, He wouldn't do that?

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    #1
    Full Story <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> His mother, Mildred Faverey, 47, who visited Melendez in the hospital last night, said he went out with friends Saturday night after caring for his 8-month-old daughter.

    "That's not like my son," Faverey said of the charges against him. "He wouldn't do that."

    "He's the greatest father to his daughter," she added, wiping away tears. "He told me, 'Mommy, trust me, I didn't do what they said I did.'"

    Melendez has eight prior arrests, including collars for robbery, marijuana possession and criminal mischief, a police source said.

    </div></div>


    Really then why the hell did the police put a cap in his ass and why was he shooting at them? What were the 8 other prior arrest? I can see wrong place wrong time once maybe twice. Nine times later seems to show a pattern.
     
    #3
    Re: That's not like my son, He wouldn't do that?

    This is nothing new, no story here. Just another night in the ghetto and an absentee mother who will now, no doubt try to cash in on "ghetto lottery".

    I'm surprised that they didn't have the kid's communion or 6th grade graduation photo in the paper.

    Thank God no officers were injured, these savages don't think twice letting a few go in the direction of uniformed cops.
     
    #5
    Re: That's not like my son, He wouldn't do that?

    This is so much crap. There is no way this happened the way 'the man' said it did. Everone knows that firearms, especially pistols outlawed in NYC. You simply cannot have one if you are just an ordinary citizen. For sure if you are just a 'homeboy' you can't have one. Something make me think the cops are lying. But if they are telling the truth then we need stricter gun laws to prevent these kinds of things from happening. If the current laws are not strong enough to keep guns from falling into the hands of this mother's son, forcing him to fire on police, then we need laws with some teeth. Some tough laws to keep guns out of the hands of criminals.
    Right?
     
    #6
    Re: That's not like my son, He wouldn't do that?

    More laws?? Really? As if the govt doesnt try and run enough. I'm pretty sure the govt will outlaw guns before too much more, how much more strict can they get.. I don't agree with putting more laws on something. Look at marijuana, its illegal .. does that keep people from finding a way together it? Hell no. Look at anything outlawed, only the law obiding citizens follow the law and theyre the ones you don't have to worry about. Sorry if impreaching, but we should keep everything we can away from the govt.
    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: crumpmd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is so much crap. There is no way this happened the way 'the man' said it did. Everone knows that firearms, especially pistols outlawed in NYC. You simply cannot have one if you are just an ordinary citizen. For sure if you are just a 'homeboy' you can't have one. Something make me think the cops are lying. But if they are telling the truth then we need stricter gun laws to prevent these kinds of things from happening. If the current laws are not strong enough to keep guns from falling into the hands of this mother's son, forcing him to fire on police, then we need laws with some teeth. Some tough laws to keep guns out of the hands of criminals.
    Right?</div></div>
     
    #8
    Re: That's not like my son, He wouldn't do that?

    Gun laws are like locking lug nuts on my truck.......all they do is keep the honest person honest!! Thats it, nothing more and nothing less. Criminals will always have guns, do they think for 1 second they filled out the proper paperwork to get the gun they used in any crime that they commit with the said gun? DOUBT IT!!! They achieved it illegally. I would say that this is true 99% of the time. Why even suggest to impose more gun laws on the law abiding citizens in this country?

    I think it should be a law that everyone carry a pistol with them at all times.....think about it for 1 second.....do you really think homeboy is gonna walk into a bank or gas station and say he has a gun to rob the place, knowing that everyone in there is carrying the same thing he is??? Probably, every now and then, but I would be safe to say a lot less often then it happens now.

    Just my two cents.......Rant over.
     
    #9
    Re: That's not like my son, He wouldn't do that?

    We had a police shooting here recently and someone posted that they knew the "victim" and that he was turning his life around.
    It's become a blogging joke when someone gets shot 'Bet they were turning their life around too'.


    Turned out he was legally dead, high on meth, took 9 shots to take him down.

    SO when this last shooting occured at wal-mart they blasted everybody, including the kidnap victim...
     
    #10
    Re: That's not like my son, He wouldn't do that?

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: crumpmd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is so much crap. There is no way this happened the way 'the man' said it did. Everone knows that firearms, especially pistols outlawed in NYC. You simply cannot have one if you are just an ordinary citizen. For sure if you are just a 'homeboy' you can't have one. Something make me think the cops are lying. But if they are telling the truth then we need stricter gun laws to prevent these kinds of things from happening. If the current laws are not strong enough to keep guns from falling into the hands of this mother's son, forcing him to fire on police, then we need laws with some teeth. Some tough laws to keep guns out of the hands of criminals.
    Right? </div></div>

    Please tell me youre being sarcastic...
     
    #11
    Re: That's not like my son, He wouldn't do that?

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Slapchop</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is nothing new, no story here. Just another night in the ghetto and an absentee mother who will now, no doubt try to cash in on "ghetto lottery".

    I'm surprised that they didn't have the kid's communion or 6th grade graduation photo in the paper.

    Thank God no officers were injured, these savages don't think twice letting a few go in the direction of uniformed cops. </div></div>

    How do you know she was an absentee mother or what she'll do next? We can judge the deceased because of his recorded actions but not her.

    "Just the facts ma'am, just the facts."
     
    #12
    Re: That's not like my son, He wouldn't do that?

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EventHorizon</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Slapchop</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is nothing new, no story here. Just another night in the ghetto and an absentee mother who will now, no doubt try to cash in on "ghetto lottery".

    I'm surprised that they didn't have the kid's communion or 6th grade graduation photo in the paper.

    Thank God no officers were injured, these savages don't think twice letting a few go in the direction of uniformed cops. </div></div>

    How do you know she was an absentee mother or what she'll do next? We can judge the deceased because of his recorded actions but not her.

    "Just the facts ma'am, just the facts." </div></div>

    Gee, lets see. He's only 18 yet has been arrested 8 times on numerous different charges. He's been in and out of the system and he's already a father to a little girl who will most likely grow up without a dad.

    Sounds like the mom wasn't doing her part to me.
     
    #13
    Re: That's not like my son, He wouldn't do that?

    Because a single mother can always control what a kid does, right? A single mother can stop a teenage boy from having sex. You know nothing about her or her circumstances, but yet feel able to judge.

    You might be right, and I'm not arguing you're wrong, I just see little value in opinions or views with no supporting facts.
     
    #14
    Re: That's not like my son, He wouldn't do that?

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Daps!</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: crumpmd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is so much crap. There is no way this happened the way 'the man' said it did. Everone knows that firearms, especially pistols outlawed in NYC. You simply cannot have one if you are just an ordinary citizen. For sure if you are just a 'homeboy' you can't have one. Something make me think the cops are lying. But if they are telling the truth then we need stricter gun laws to prevent these kinds of things from happening. If the current laws are not strong enough to keep guns from falling into the hands of this mother's son, forcing him to fire on police, then we need laws with some teeth. Some tough laws to keep guns out of the hands of criminals.
    Right? </div></div>

    Please tell me youre being sarcastic...
    </div></div>

    Uh, yeah. I am.
     
    #15
    Re: That's not like my son, He wouldn't do that?

    Are you suggesting a single parent has less responsibility for their child than a couple?

    I was the son of a single parent and didn't get in any trouble, maybe because my dad structured my life and kept me in line.
     
    #16
    Re: That's not like my son, He wouldn't do that?

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sled Dog</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Are you suggesting a single parent has less responsibility for their child than a couple?

    I was the son of a single parent and didn't get in any trouble, maybe because my dad structured my life and kept me in line. </div></div>

    No, I'm not and I'm well acquainted with single parent families. What I was explicitly stating was there's nothing near enough fact made available to suggest this kid became bad because of an absentee mother.
     
    #17
    Re: That's not like my son, He wouldn't do that?

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EventHorizon</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Because a single mother can always control what a kid does, right? A single mother can stop a teenage boy from having sex. You know nothing about her or her circumstances, but yet feel able to judge.

    You might be right, and I'm not arguing you're wrong, I just see little value in opinions or views with no supporting facts. </div></div>

    Well I don't have any supporting facts for you. I only speak from experience. I was raised by a single mother on a low income. Not only did she have to raise me but my sister as well. We didn't live in the best part of town.

    Guess what, she WAS able to control what I did. Not only as a child but as a teenager as well. There was so much control that as soon as I was able to I enlisted in the USMC.

    Due to the fact that she took an active interest in my life as a child/teen, she MADE me into the person that I am today.

    I find it all too often (and I see it EVERYDAY) that most parents that make these types of excuses when their kids commit heinous acts of violence, never took an interest in their kids lives in the first place, hence why they're clueless as to what they're capable of.

    Again, I speak from experience.
     
    #18
    Re: That's not like my son, He wouldn't do that?

    ah yes, the 'my experience makes me infallible'. Ok, what can be said to someone who feels fine about making a judgement on someone they've never met and know nothing about? If this experience is LE then I feel sorry for the members of the public you're assigned to.

    BTW - "ghetto lottery"... Really?
     
    #19
    Re: That's not like my son, He wouldn't do that?

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EventHorizon</div><div class="ubbcode-body">ah yes, the 'my experience makes me infallible'. Ok, what can be said to someone who feels fine about making a judgement on someone they've never met and know nothing about? If this experience is LE then I feel sorry for the members of the public you're assigned to.

    BTW - "ghetto lottery"... Really?

    </div></div>

    Keep living in your little bubble. It must be nice to view the world through rose colored and be oblivious as to how it really works.
     
    #20
    Re: That's not like my son, He wouldn't do that?

    Don't be an ass. I'm not saying it's all perfect, just use facts to judge, not anecdote. If you think that's being idealistic then you need a long holiday.
     
    #22
    Re: That's not like my son, He wouldn't do that?

    Certainly the facts we're given don't lend to a decision one way or the other about the quality of parenting. However her reaction seems to tell me that she has no idea what her kid is about. I'm not sure it's much of a stretch to think she has never taken much control or interest. She doesn't seem able to even put 8+1 together to get to arrest #9. I just have a tough time seeing this person as a taskmaster, teaching right from wrong.
     
    #23
    Re: That's not like my son, He wouldn't do that?

    This thread was a lot more fun when it was about a mom in ignorant denial about her deadbeat son and Crump doing his best impersonation of the asanine thought process of a liberal douche.
     
    #24
    Re: That's not like my son, He wouldn't do that?

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 300WSM</div><div class="ubbcode-body">denial </div></div>

    You're right. I deny the validity of opinion devoid of fact. As a taxpayer who pays the wages of LE and their pensions, I also have the right to expect rational, fact based thinking from them as opposed to bigotry and lazy thinking.

    We don't like it when people lump us in with gun crazed killers and come after our rights. We would prefer that they know what they're talking about when it comes to their flawed thinking that if you get rid if guns you get rid of crime. I'm sure they have anecdotes and 'experience' up the wazoo to point to. How is this different?

    That woman may have been weak and ineffectual as a mother, we don't know. We also don't know what question she was answering when she was quoted. It's not unlike the media to force an emotional angel on a story or quote for good copy.

    Thinking and facts are important, they shouldn't be optional extras on the path to forming ones views of the world.
     
    #25
    Re: That's not like my son, He wouldn't do that?

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EventHorizon</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 300WSM</div><div class="ubbcode-body">denial </div></div>

    <span style="color: #FF0000">You're right. I deny the validity of opinion devoid of fact.</span> As a taxpayer who pays the wages of LE and their pensions, I also have the right to expect rational, fact based thinking from them as opposed to bigotry and lazy thinking.

    We don't like it when people lump us in with gun crazed killers and come after our rights. We would prefer that they know what they're talking about when it comes to their flawed thinking that if you get rid if guns you get rid of crime. I'm sure they have anecdotes and 'experience' up the wazoo to point to. How is this different?

    That woman may have been weak and ineffectual as a mother, we don't know. We also don't know what question she was answering when she was quoted. It's not unlike the media to force an emotional angel on a story or quote for good copy.

    Thinking and facts are important, they shouldn't be optional extras on the path to forming ones views of the world. </div></div>

    An opinion is just that, an opinion. By they very definition of the word, it does NOT have to be based on facts. And I'm the "lazy thinker"?

    Definition of "Opinion"

    But if facts are what you want, I can only state that I've seen it time and time again. Parents who are in total shock/disbelief when they learn some of the atrocities that their children have committed. It comes as a surprise because they were too busy doing everything BUT being a parent.

    If she would have been doing what she should have as a mother, her kid wouldn't have been getting locked up and his savage behavior would never have escalated to the point where he feels as if its ok to engage uniform police officers in a gun battle.

    I'm sorry if the truth does not fit into your liberal agenda but it is what it is. You sound like the type that believes in hugs and timeouts. Good luck because its not how the world works.
     
    #26
    Re: That's not like my son, He wouldn't do that?

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Slapchop</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EventHorizon</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 300WSM</div><div class="ubbcode-body">denial </div></div>

    <span style="color: #FF0000">You're right. I deny the validity of opinion devoid of fact.</span> As a taxpayer who pays the wages of LE and their pensions, I also have the right to expect rational, fact based thinking from them as opposed to bigotry and lazy thinking.

    We don't like it when people lump us in with gun crazed killers and come after our rights. We would prefer that they know what they're talking about when it comes to their flawed thinking that if you get rid if guns you get rid of crime. I'm sure they have anecdotes and 'experience' up the wazoo to point to. How is this different?

    That woman may have been weak and ineffectual as a mother, we don't know. We also don't know what question she was answering when she was quoted. It's not unlike the media to force an emotional angel on a story or quote for good copy.

    Thinking and facts are important, they shouldn't be optional extras on the path to forming ones views of the world. </div></div>

    An opinion is just that, an opinion. By they very definition of the word, it does NOT have to be based on facts. And I'm the "lazy thinker"?

    Definition of "Opinion"

    But if facts are what you want, I can only state that I've seen it time and time again. Parents who are in total shock/disbelief when they learn some of the atrocities that their children have committed. It comes as a surprise because they were too busy doing everything BUT being a parent.

    If she would have been doing what she should have as a mother, her kid wouldn't have been getting locked up and his savage behavior would never have escalated to the point where he feels as if its ok to engage uniform police officers in a gun battle.

    I'm sorry if the truth does not fit into your liberal agenda but it is what it is. You sound like the type that believes in hugs and timeouts. Good luck because its not how the world works. </div></div>

    OK, i'll try and make this simple as you seem to have a hard time with whole sentences and paragraphs:

    1. I'm not a liberal, I just don't like bigotry and ignorance.

    2. You are not the sole representation of the Conservative ideal. It doesn't matter how hot wearing a uniform and fondling a night stick makes you, other people can still disagree with you.

    3. In the event someone expects you to solve a crime, remember, facts are important to a case, not just to liberals...

    4. Hugs are good. Get one, you might become nicer as a result.

    5. Read the third definition of your own link. You're a professional right? Try and act like one.

    6. Timeouts - maybe if you'd been given a few you'd not be such a one-minded dipstick.
     
    #27
    Re: That's not like my son, He wouldn't do that?

    So now we resort to name calling and insults as opposed to having an intelligent rebuttal. That usually only signifies one thing.

    And given the words in your very last post, my suspicions of you have been confirmed.

    Good day sir!
     
    #29
    Re: That's not like my son, He wouldn't do that?

    Good comeback, what are you 13?

    According to you, opinions must be based on fact and not personal views. Anything less and it is null and void in your world
     
    #31
    Re: That's not like my son, He wouldn't do that?

    FACT: Eight time loser (presumed innocent on number nine).

    FACT: He is a worse shot that the cops.

    FACT: He is a lousy parent.

    Opinion: Odds are Slapchop nailed it.
     
    #32
    Re: That's not like my son, He wouldn't do that?

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: crumpmd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is so much crap. There is no way this happened the way 'the man' said it did. Everone knows that firearms, especially pistols outlawed in NYC. You simply cannot have one if you are just an ordinary citizen. For sure if you are just a 'homeboy' you can't have one. Something make me think the cops are lying. But if they are telling the truth then we need stricter gun laws to prevent these kinds of things from happening. If the current laws are not strong enough to keep guns from falling into the hands of this mother's son, forcing him to fire on police, then we need laws with some teeth. Some tough laws to keep guns out of the hands of criminals.
    Right? </div></div>

    be very careful what you wish for , we have some of the strictest gun laws in the world it takes six month just to get a handgun licence ......and then anther month to get a hand gun

    the only people that can buy and sell firearms freely in Au are the crim's

    if you are just a ordinary person you have no right to self defence , if you are a crim you can assault anyone you want and there is no consequence but if you try to defend your self in your own home from armed attackers and you kill or hurt them you will go to jail


    you need to think about what you are saying no good can come from what you
    propose

    . Dave

    you do not want stricter gun laws they do not work
     
    #33
    Re: That's not like my son, He wouldn't do that?

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dbateman</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: crumpmd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is so much crap. There is no way this happened the way 'the man' said it did. Everone knows that firearms, especially pistols outlawed in NYC. You simply cannot have one if you are just an ordinary citizen. For sure if you are just a 'homeboy' you can't have one. Something make me think the cops are lying. But if they are telling the truth then we need stricter gun laws to prevent these kinds of things from happening. If the current laws are not strong enough to keep guns from falling into the hands of this mother's son, forcing him to fire on police, then we need laws with some teeth. Some tough laws to keep guns out of the hands of criminals.
    Right? </div></div>

    be very careful what you wish for , we have some of the strictest gun laws in the world it takes six month just to get a handgun licence ......and then anther month to get a hand gun

    the only people that can buy and sell firearms freely in Au are the crim's

    if you are just a ordinary person you have no right to self defence , if you are a crim you can assault anyone you want and there is no consequence but if you try to defend your self in your own home from armed attackers and you kill or hurt them you will go to jail


    you need to think about what you are saying no good can come from what you
    propose

    . Dave

    you do not want stricter gun laws they do not work </div></div>

    Well said. If I lived there and had to defend myself from attackers, I probably wouldn't notify the police at all. The outback is a preeetttyyyy big place....just sayin'.....
     
    #34
    Re: That's not like my son, He wouldn't do that?

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EventHorizon</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 300WSM</div><div class="ubbcode-body">denial </div></div>

    You're right. I deny the validity of opinion devoid of fact. As a taxpayer who pays the wages of LE and their pensions, I also have the right to expect rational, fact based thinking from them as opposed to bigotry and lazy thinking.

    We don't like it when people lump us in with gun crazed killers and come after our rights. We would prefer that they know what they're talking about when it comes to their flawed thinking that if you get rid if guns you get rid of crime. I'm sure they have anecdotes and 'experience' up the wazoo to point to. How is this different?

    That woman may have been weak and ineffectual as a mother, we don't know. We also don't know what question she was answering when she was quoted. It's not unlike the media to force an emotional angel on a story or quote for good copy.

    Thinking and facts are important, they shouldn't be optional extras on the path to forming ones views of the world.</div></div>


    Really? The BS "I'm a taxpayer" line?
     
    #36
    Re: That's not like my son, He wouldn't do that?

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: crumpmd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is so much crap. There is no way this happened the way 'the man' said it did. Everone knows that firearms, especially pistols outlawed in NYC. You simply cannot have one if you are just an ordinary citizen. For sure if you are just a 'homeboy' you can't have one. Something make me think the cops are lying. But if they are telling the truth then we need stricter gun laws to prevent these kinds of things from happening. If the current laws are not strong enough to keep guns from falling into the hands of this mother's son, forcing him to fire on police, then we need laws with some teeth. Some tough laws to keep guns out of the hands of criminals.
    Right? </div></div>
    plus 100 you know he was set up!
     
    #37
    Re: That's not like my son, He wouldn't do that?

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jolly roger</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I am mildly concerned about the number of people who cannot recognize the sarcasm in crumpmd's post. Really? Is the tonelessness of the internet that bad? </div></div>

    DITTO! IT came across just fine to me. I actually laughed at it.
    confused.gif
     
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