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The OFFICIAL 'Wuhan' Coronavirus outbreak information and tracking thread. NARRATIVE CHANGE. "Endemic, just like the cold". Cuomo regrets lockdown.

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If you’re quarantined, or locked down, its easier to wear the underwear once, then throw it away. Especially if there is no access to water. That may be why its sold out.
 
This whole thing is completely ridiculous. The chance people have had a strain of the coronavirus in the past and mistaken it as the flu is almost assured. This is just one of those off years where its worse than normal but in no way will it get any where close to the Spanish flu of 1918. Hell, it won't even be as bad as this years flu strain. People are loosing their damn minds because they are watching too much tv and not getting out more. Stop watching the fucking evening news and get off social media like FB, Instagram and twitter. Just check the Johns Hopkins website for the statics between the flu this year and the coronavirus. Its absurd. I swear this has become idiocracy in real life.

Is the coronavirus contagious and deadly? Yes, so is the flu and even the common cold. Will it be as bad as the current flu or even 1918? I'll bet my savings no.

Now off to buy shares of stocks in Purel, toilet paper and bleach, retirement early bitches.
 
This whole thing is completely ridiculous. The chance people have had a strain of the coronavirus in the past and mistaken it as the flu is almost assured. This is just one of those off years where its worse than normal but in no way will it get any where close to the Spanish flu of 1918. Hell, it won't even be as bad as this years flu strain. People are loosing their damn minds because they are watching too much tv and not getting out more. Stop watching the fucking evening news and get off social media like FB, Instagram and twitter. Just check the Johns Hopkins website for the statics between the flu this year and the coronavirus. Its absurd. I swear this has become idiocracy in real life.

Is the coronavirus contagious and deadly? Yes, so is the flu and even the common cold. Will it be as bad as the current flu or even 1918? I'll bet my savings no.

Now off to buy shares of stocks in Purel, toilet paper and bleach, retirement early bitches.

Don't forget to short American Airlines................ :ROFLMAO:
 
The prophecy has spoken
 

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The South Korean data actually shows a much lower fatality rate of around .7%

Broader testing reveals much more mild cases.
 
Here is some more evidence that the media is still trying to facilitate panic rather than mitigate it. For the last 3 days, the NYC metro newspapers and their online pages have been flooded with pictures of supposedly "empty" and "deserted" subway trains and stations at "rush hour". Trains that only had 2 or 3 people sitting far apart from each other in the entire car, supposedly at peak times. The NY Transit Authority was also reporting a "18.5% drop in riders"...

I took this picture of the interior of the Brooklyn bound N express that I am on right now... It is 3:15PM.

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And this is a few minutes later when the train reached Atlantic Avenue-Barclays Center:

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Welp... That settles the issue of "deserted trains at rush hour", doesn't it? By the way the PM rush hour does not officially start until 4:45 PM on weekdays, and I have seen trains with far less passengers than this around the same time on other days.

BUT... Gotta induce that panic in the population. How else will you get people to gladly embrace more restrictive government and further erosion of their freedoms?

There is NG deployed in New Rochelle....another test of restrictive government. It is a COVID-19 "Hotzone" according to the MSM....showing National Guard passing out food......IN FUCKING AMERICA

None of this is for the good
 
There is NG deployed in New Rochelle....another test of restrictive government. It is a COVID-19 "Hotzone" according to the MSM....showing National Guard passing out food......IN FUCKING AMERICA

None of this is for the good

Watch what happens if UN troops start helping the national guard.

They got to keep those blue helmets occupied.
 
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The South Korean data actually shows a much lower fatality rate of around .7%

Broader testing reveals much more mild cases.

That's good news. If we end up with 50-60 million cases here in the US, then it'll only kill ~375,000 people. It's just the flu!
 
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That's good news. If we end up with 50-60 million cases here in the US, then it'll only kill ~375,000 people. It's just the flu!
If it holds true that the CV19 mainly goes after the old folk that already have health issues... they the 350,000 that would have died next year from heart disease, kidney failure, etc will kick the bucket due to coronavirus this year. It sucks, but that's one way to look at it.

My grandfather is 93 and lives in Washington state at a retirement complex. So, I have skin in this game, but it is what it is.
 
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That's good news. If we end up with 50-60 million cases here in the US, then it'll only kill ~375,000 people. It's just the flu!

Life expectancy in USA is about 78yo.

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Take with grain of salt.

Btw, I have elderly parents both in mid 80s.
 
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Well, I thought about this, and decided WTH.
A friend who works at a large gun store in a big border town in CA (yeah, THAT place) was on the phone with me today. He usually does not work the counter anymore. He reports 2 /12 hour waits for ammo, and almost 3 hour waits for purchasing any sort of firearm, if it is in stock. And they STILL have to wait 14 days!He used the expression "Zombie Apocalypse" mentality. So far no idiotic fights or they would simply shut the barrier, but people rushing to the gun store is almost out of hand. They have a huge sale that was supposed to start tomorrow, but they are going to skip that since they are being mobbed at regular prices as it is. They may not have inventory by tomorrow anyway.
The idiocy must be more contagious that the Virus.
Hey hey, if you're going to insult my state, get it right!


We only wait 10 days for guns LOL.
 
In the past few weeks I have witnessed countless new gun owners at the range and training classes full, mostly handguns.

Some said wow what fun and shopped for more.

They find out how much fun they were missing out on and they are hooked plain and simple. Speaking of simple,
People that think they will keep them only short time are well "simple".

They will be upgrading.

Some other simple things we saw today. My wallmart.

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Also at my new favorite gittin place, no varget or 8208 but did have one box of 123 sst 6.5g, nice snag.

Some local stores out of meat , kroger had pork butt and ground beef.

No fist fights this week yet.

Oh and shut that liberal yap so as to not catch the corrona.
 
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Lets say that the infection rate is about the same as H1N1 ~ 11% to 21%, and the death rate is 0.77%. There are 327.2 million people in the US, so that would mean 277,138 ~ 529,082 deaths in the US. Those are big numbers, but I bet people wouldn't notice if it was that simple.

However, the truth is this virus is likely more serious then the Spanish flu, because it has such a high hospitalization rate. 20% of people who get it require hospitalization, and unless the number of infected are kept low the system will be overwhelmed. The US is also full of overweight people, and the virus is expectantly deadly to people with diabetes, and heart disease. We have a lot of slobs, and uncouth types, and a healthcare systems, and economy that expects people to go to work sick. There is no reason to expect our death rate to be on the lower end of the globe spectrum.

If the US ends up with a death rate the same as the globe average of 3.4% keeping the infection rate the same it will mean 1,223,728‬ ~ 2,336,208 deaths.

Without doing any quarantining, and keeping things open and running I think its likely safe to say there would be between 277,138 ~ 2,336,208 deaths from the virus in the US. The real variable we have control over is the infection rate, not the death rate. The average number of deaths from the flu for the last 9 years in the US was ~ 37,461 so on the lower end assuming we do nothing, or all efforts to contain it don't work this seems to be about ten times worse then that.
 
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Just drove by a local 24hr grocery store. 4 local PD at the door. Line around the block. Controlled entry (1 out 1 in).
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Prisoners with less than three months remaining on their sentences will be considered for early release as part of plans being put in place by the Irish Prison Service to deal the coronavirus risk.

Hmmmm and where will they go after release?

 
Prisoners with less than three months remaining on their sentences will be considered for early release as part of plans being put in place by the Irish Prison Service to deal the coronavirus risk.

Hmmmm and where will they go after release?


Where would they go in three months when they would be released anyways... They're people, not objects to put away in a box.
 
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Seems things would be in a better place had we bit the bullet earlier and quarantined all international arrivals a couple months ago kinda like Isreal has done.

Edit: The conspiracy lobe in my brain seems to think that might not have had the desired effect.
 
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Where would they go in three months when they would be released anyways... They're people, not objects to put away in a box.

Lots of unrepentant people need to be left in a box. Disney world isn’t reality outside of it’s gates.
 
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Seems things would be in a better place had we bit the bullet earlier and quarantined all international arrivals a couple months ago kinda like Isreal has done.

Edit: The conspiracy lobe in my brain seems to think that might not have had the desired effect.
Of course this is not Trumps fault pre se but system is broken on many levels and the whole reelection issue certanly did not help , honestly i kinda fail to see why every US President so utterly ,desperately wants to get a second term , basicaly turning the first term into a long reelection campaign.


''In the case of Alex Azar, [the head of Health and Human Services], he did go to the president in January. He did push past resistance from the president's political aides to warn the president the new coronavirus could be a major problem. There were aides around Trump - Kellyanne Conway had some skepticism at times that this was something that needed to be a presidential priority.
But at the same time, Secretary Azar has not always given the president the worst-case scenario of what could happen. My understanding is he did not push to do aggressive additional testing in recent weeks, and that's partly because more testing might have led to more cases being discovered of coronavirus outbreak, and the president had made clear - the lower the numbers on coronavirus, the better for the president, the better for his potential reelection this fall.''

''GROSS: Why didn't the U.S. use the World Health Organization's test?
DIAMOND: If you or your listeners know the answer to that, I would love...
(LAUGHTER)
DIAMOND: ...To have someone tip me off because that is a question that I've been trying to solve and my colleagues have been looking to solve, too. The World Health Organization did have a working test. Someone somewhere made the decision that the U.S. was going to go its own way, and that started a chain reaction of not having a working test and then having these delays for weeks - so certainly a failure, not necessarily the worst failure but the one that started us down this path.

GROSS: It's almost embarrassing, nationally, that the United States is so far behind other countries in terms of its ability to conduct tests for the virus.
DIAMOND: I think at this point, Terry, South Korea, in the past 24 hours, has probably done more tests for coronavirus than the United States has done in the past two months. South Korea can do 10,000 tests per day. At last count, we have done somewhere between 5,000 and 8,000 tests.




https://www.npr.org/2020/03/12/8148...hreat-but-response-fell-short?t=1584198562788
 
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It can be spun that way sure, especially by those looking to blame trump. Remember the dem cries when he started travel bans?

There are likely 1000s and 1000s of infected by now.

Only thing additional positive test results will produce at this point is additional panic.
 
Dumb country boy logic again but....

Lets start with some simple questions.

Why are dems and their media proxy screaming at the sky for "more tests"?

Is there true belief that at this point the spread can be contained?

What is the goal of this additional testing?

BTW, heard from a friend today. Some banks starting to quarantine cash for up to 10 days.
 
Dumb country boy logic again but....

Lets start with some simple questions.

Why are dems and their media proxy screaming at the sky for "more tests"?

Is there true belief that at this point the spread can be contained?

What is the goal of this additional testing?

BTW, heard from a friend today. Some banks starting to quarantine cash for up to 10 days.

They need to slow the spread so the healthcare system doesn’t break down.

I don’t think there is an expectation that most people won’t get it.
 
Of course this is not Trumps fault pre se but system is broken on many levels and the whole reelection issue certanly did not help , honestly i kinda fail to see why every US President so utterly ,desperately wants to get a second term , basicaly turning the first term into a long reelection campaign.


''In the case of Alex Azar, [the head of Health and Human Services], he did go to the president in January. He did push past resistance from the president's political aides to warn the president the new coronavirus could be a major problem. There were aides around Trump - Kellyanne Conway had some skepticism at times that this was something that needed to be a presidential priority.
But at the same time, Secretary Azar has not always given the president the worst-case scenario of what could happen. My understanding is he did not push to do aggressive additional testing in recent weeks, and that's partly because more testing might have led to more cases being discovered of coronavirus outbreak, and the president had made clear - the lower the numbers on coronavirus, the better for the president, the better for his potential reelection this fall.''

''GROSS: Why didn't the U.S. use the World Health Organization's test?
DIAMOND: If you or your listeners know the answer to that, I would love...
(LAUGHTER)
DIAMOND: ...To have someone tip me off because that is a question that I've been trying to solve and my colleagues have been looking to solve, too. The World Health Organization did have a working test. Someone somewhere made the decision that the U.S. was going to go its own way, and that started a chain reaction of not having a working test and then having these delays for weeks - so certainly a failure, not necessarily the worst failure but the one that started us down this path.

GROSS: It's almost embarrassing, nationally, that the United States is so far behind other countries in terms of its ability to conduct tests for the virus.
DIAMOND: I think at this point, Terry, South Korea, in the past 24 hours, has probably done more tests for coronavirus than the United States has done in the past two months. South Korea can do 10,000 tests per day. At last count, we have done somewhere between 5,000 and 8,000 tests.




https://www.npr.org/2020/03/12/8148...hreat-but-response-fell-short?t=1584198562788

Trump isn’t the messiah. But he has been surrounded by saboteurs from day one. Think about it.

Another thing to consider is that a surprising number of “progressives” have no problems killing babies and old folks are just in their way. Many of them way up the food chain have open association with China. The way this virus impacts or doesn’t impact various age groups is quite curious.
 
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They need to slow the spread so the healthcare system doesn’t break down.

I don’t think there is an expectation that most people won’t get it.

So you have to test to slow the spread? So we going to force test mofos? And then force quarantine them?
 
So you have to test to slow the spread? So we going to force test mofos? And then force quarantine them?

Well they just pulled off the national emergency gloves. Trump needs to seriously consider the advice he’s been receiving.
 
Dumb country boy logic again but....

Lets start with some simple questions.

Why are dems and their media proxy screaming at the sky for "more tests"?

Is there true belief that at this point the spread can be contained?

What is the goal of this additional testing?

BTW, heard from a friend today. Some banks starting to quarantine cash for up to 10 days.

Testing is done so that you can do somewhat smaller scale isolation of individuals and their potential contacts vs hole blocks or cities. For every positive test you isolate 5-10 people and stop them spreading it around , without that ,these indivuduals continue spreading COVID19 till they can't walk and then posibly walk into a hospital talking out bunch of medical staff that have to go into isolation or in case of those that are not too seriusly affected , spread it for whole duraton of the infection.

Whole point is just to slow down the spread ,by containing known infected and US was realy late with testing and even then scale was beyond minimal.

Sure this is the only opening they have against Trump first Covid now the stock market went tits up like one of his Casinos. In a month time he will have very hard time to boast about anything he did in past couple of years as the 'strong economy' running on debt and FED money printing machine gets wiped out by the financial crisis that will make 2009 look like a cakewalk.
 
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