The perfect suppressor host for hunting

Bakwa

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    Hear me out,
    Why isn't there a desire [or enough of a desire] for a light, packable, big bore, suppressor host?

    For people that chase "quiet" and also want to hunt with said quiet system, most are left with 300blk which is not ideal.
    Why is there not an ideal caliber designed for throwing ~400gr pils at 1000fps out of a bolt action or single shot to get the most out of a quiet subsonic system meant for taking down game in swamps, thick woods, or near neighborhoods [where you don't want to bother people with muzzle report or a bleeding deer running through their yard]?
    Why is there not an easily packable package that breaks down into a backpack to host such an ideal caliber and its can?

    The best attempts I've seen recently are 338ARC, 8.6BO and the like. The best still isn't ideal. They're always in calibers that favor gas guns [which isn't ideal for maximizing quiet], and the calibers/barrel twist always sacrifice for both subs and supers, and aren't typically optimized for heavy subs. Most of these calibers aren't even factory loaded heavier than ~305gr either. Not to mention overall bullet diameter in 30cal or 338cal isn't anything to write home about at subsonic speeds. If you're going to go slow, then go big! We need a 45cal or 50cal heavy hitter, but where are they at?

    I'm starting a project to put together something which fits this criteria, but I'm on a budget and I don't reload. What to do?
    The best idea that I have is chopping down a Handi-Rifle in 45LC to 16" and having it threaded, then running it with heavies and my Fly45.
    I just wish there were better options.
     
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    What is the value of a subsonic hunting round? The trajectory is like a rainbow and the sound of a heavy bullet impacting is as loud as a crack from a suppressed supersonic round.

    Big and slow is fun, I have 458 SOCOM 500gr from an AR and a Contender in 44 Mag with subs also.

    But for hunting I'd shoot supersonic. Some subsonic bullet designs are almost as good as the supersonic equivalent, but the trajectory is miserable.
     
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    I hunt an 18” 300 win mag with a LTI. Manners stick and straight taper carbon proof. It’s a very versatile do it all gun.

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    It’s also extremely accurate at distance.

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    Buddy is building a .510 Whisper to run a 1000 gr Maker Solid……..


    Another buddy sent a vid of him shooting a .338 ARC bolt gun out of his garage.
    Very quiet and more than accurate for 200 yd and less.


    Im looking at a 458 SOCOM bolt gun for the same.
    Run a light folding chassis and just shoot off a tripod if not off hand.

    Yes. A 300 WM is quiet….. 🤦‍♂️
     
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    Buddy is building a .510 Whisper to run a 1000 gr Maker Solid……..


    Another buddy sent a vid of him shooting a .338 ARC bolt gun out of his garage.
    Very quiet and more than accurate for 200 yd and less.


    Im looking at a 458 SOCOM bolt gun for the same.
    Run a light folding chassis and just shoot off a tripod if not off hand.

    Yes. A 300 WM is quiet….. 🤦‍♂️

    It’s very quiet. Can easily shoot it without ear pro for hunting. Theres no advantage to subsonic rounds
     
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    I hunt an 18” 300 win mag with a LTI. Manners stick and straight taper carbon proof. It’s a very versatile do it all gun.

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    It’s also extremely accurate at distance.

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    Alas, this is probably why my desired combo hasn't been produced commercially. Not everyone hunts in areas that have 25yd shots as the rule and want to be quiet.
     
    The purpose of subs is so no one else can hear anything.
    Not just so its ear safe for you.

    Lotta people hunt in areas that are legal, and being movie quiet is advantageous. 🤷‍♂️


    There is a post on here of a guy with a 1/10 twist .458 socom doing exactly what you are talking about @Bakwa
    Just cant remember where.
     
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    The purpose of subs is so no one else can hear anything.
    Not just so its ear safe for you.

    Lotta people hunt in areas that are legal, and being movie quiet is advantageous. 🤷‍♂️


    There is a post on here of a guy with a 1/10 twist .458 socom doing exactly what you are talking about @Bakwa
    Just cant remember where.
    Thanks. Searching now.
     
    458 Socom is a great round for this project. Problem is factory loaded ammo is limited and expensive. Subs are probably not easily available. Easy button would be the 450 bushmaster. Factory subsonic ammo is readily available. The Ruger American 450 bushmaster can be had for less than $500. It’s already threaded.
     
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    "Not ideal" varies depending on your target animal. I have had zero complains using 300blk subs on coyote, deer and black bear.
    Ideal for dropping them sooner than later would be my stick. I know of plenty of guys that have killed deer with 300BO just fine, but had trouble tracking them. Same with any other small caliber.
    I hunt in a swamp when I'm in FL, so in a perfect world, no deer would run farther than 10yds and drop. After that, tracking can be easy or hard depending on a number of factors.
     
    Ideal for dropping them sooner than later would be my stick. I know of plenty of guys that have killed deer with 300BO just fine, but had trouble tracking them. Same with any other small caliber.
    I hunt in a swamp when I'm in FL, so in a perfect world, no deer would run farther than 10yds and drop. After that, tracking can be easy or hard depending on a number of factors.

    Berger 215 hybrid is the best bullet on game I’ve ever seen.
     
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    Because:
    1. there’s zero reason to beat yourself up with a 400gr bullet that’s less effective than a 77gr .223
    2. Suppressors over .30cal tend to be enormous and extremely expensive
    3. Subs suck at killing things

    If it’s hunting season and you’re following the rules, who cares if you shoot one or two rounds? Use a suppressor on a supersonic round and it’s fine. Subs sucks, terminally.
     
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