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Rifle Scopes Time for a new scope because, why not?

I'll give you my take on it because I believe you, OP, are asking fair and legitimate questions. I bought a Vortex RZR HD Gen2 for my match rifle partly due to the fact that Vortex has a "No questions asked" warranty. Part of that reason is because I know my Match rig is likely to get dinged, scratched, banged around due to the competition nature shooting off of/through/around barricades more than any of my other rifles. Shit happens. Everything can break. All scopes can break. I'm a professional student on a very tight budget. This sport/hobby/lifestyle (whatever you want to call it) is expensive as fuck. If something breaks I have such a tight budget I don't want to have to put up the extra money to pay shipping to/from, repair costs, etc. to fix a scope. The Vortex is perfect for my needs and does exactly what I want. It's not S&B or NF or Kahles crisp but I didn't buy it expecting it to be. Vortex HD line is great, and is only a minor step behind the top tier brands in glass quality in my opinion. I bought it because it still meets my requirements for reticle, glass, turrets AND they have a no questions asked warranty. I've heard of other companies offering something similar to Vortex (Nightforce and Leupold mainly) but it's not as clear and easily navigated as Vortex's so I didn't want to chance it.

Every top end manufacturer will back up their optic if it breaks during regular use. A match would be considered regular use.

No manufacturer can afford to have people all over the internet saying “my turret came off when it hit the side of a barricade I was using and they didn’t fix it.” This is not negligence on the shooter and the optic should take it.

Dropping it down a mountain, dropping it on concrete, driving over it, etc etc is a different story.

Higher end vortex optics are very nice and if they work for you that’s awesome.

However, buying them solely for the no questions warranty is buying into a marketing gimmick.
 
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I can say that I’ve never had any company give me a problem with a repair. And I’ve had a lot of scopes repaired.
 
Every top end manufacturer will back up their optic if it breaks during regular use. A match would be considered regular use.
See that's a very interesting point! I bet that would allay a lot of timidity for many folks about dropping big bucks on an optic.


However, buying them solely for the no questions warranty is buying into a marketing gimmick.

No one is advocating for that as far as I can see. However I do buy it weighing in to the decision partly.
 
See that's a very interesting point! I bet that would allay a lot of timidity for many folks about dropping big bucks on an optic.




No one is advocating for that as far as I can see. However I do buy it weighing in to the decision partly.

A poster earlier claimed swaro had terrible CS because he had to pay a little when he dropped his optic on concrete. And made the vortex no questions warranty seem like a major factor. Not to mention it’s the first thing that comes up when vortex is mentioned. So, there are obviously people out there who buy for the warranty.

That’s not bad CS at all. That’s realistic expectations. There’s almost nothing else in life we expect to be able to be as stupid or negligent as we want and not be held responsible for it.

It was a genius marketing move by vortex.
 
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My outlook is simply different.

The mentality that a scope should be replaced due to catastrophic loss or user stupidity is placing the burden on the maker. Since only a socialist thinks anything can be free it is clear to others that if they offer such a warranty it is being paid for up front.

I do not want to pay for an insurance policy against stupid when I buy a scope which is exactly what the OP is looking for. I prefer to pay only for the item. Cheap Chinese crap often comes with such a warranty. Top of the line products never do. Do you think Rolls Royce will replace your car if you crash into a tree?

In all cases I recall the companies who offer such policies are pursuing low information buyers and offering 3rd tier products. Just as socialism appeals to only those who run the system or those too stupid to know how things work and want someone else to give them cradle to grave guarantees. Free college, free healthcare, free childcare, free scope replacement. I would not be surprised if Bernie offers it in his platform soon. Very socialist idea.

It removes the burden of reasonable care from the owner. I still maintain the OP is exactly as I posted.
Post of the year.
 
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Swarovski is awful. I STUPIDLY dropped my scope on the concrete garage floor. Thinking they would take care of me...yeah they did to the tune of $250 for a new body tube an $100 for the service and return shipping was on me. absolutely loved the optics hated the very expensive service.

Never had to use the vortex service, but they only ask 1 question for any damag, and that is “what’s your return address?”
So, you damaged your scope and had to pay to get it fixed?

Man, I get it 100%. Like the one time 3-4 years ago I scratched the shit out of the paint on my truck. Could you believe the asshole body shop at the dealer where I bought it wanted me to pay for them to fix my fuckup?

Shit pisses me off, man. What a fucking world we live in where we gotta pay for things to get fixed.
 
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