I was wondering if some kind members here could voice their opinion on a nice AR type trigger. It does not have to be a hair trigger. Maybe 2 lbs or so. Two stage is ok. The other requirement is , it would be super-duper if it will ignite cci #41 primers. I did not realize it until maybe a year ago that not all slamming hammers are created equal. I never thought I would have a presision ar type rifle then either. But now one is in the works and it would be heartbreaking to get started on some workup loads and they do not fire. Thanks
trigger question
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http://geissele.com/ Very well liked by many shooters. I have JARD's http://www.jardinc.com/ in my AR-15 and AR-10 but had to put the factory hammer spring back in my AR-10 in order for it to ignite Berdan military primers. Didn't effect the trigger pull at all.
http://geissele.com/ Very well liked by many shooters. I have JARD's http://www.jardinc.com/ in my AR-15 and AR-10 but had to put the factory hammer spring back in my AR-10 in order for it to ignite Berdan military primers. Didn't effect the trigger pull at all.
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Geissele and take your pick from the variety they offer. They're built for NATO standard primers and come with full strength hammer springs.
It is not advisable to drop into the 2# range on a semi auto though as double fires can start happening. A single or two stage 3.5-4.5# is plenty light enough for precision.
Geissele and take your pick from the variety they offer. They're built for NATO standard primers and come with full strength hammer springs.
It is not advisable to drop into the 2# range on a semi auto though as double fires can start happening. A single or two stage 3.5-4.5# is plenty light enough for precision.
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Sir,
Geissele Combat, I have it in 2 rifles right now and its performed flawless. The flat trigger takes some getting used to but I really like it.
Matt
Sir,
Geissele Combat, I have it in 2 rifles right now and its performed flawless. The flat trigger takes some getting used to but I really like it.
Matt
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+1 for Geissele! I was never a fan of high priced triggers. I can work with just about any trigger. I finally got tired of having different pull weights/ feel on every rifle so I bought two Geissele SSAs for my precision rifles and LOVE them! I am now working on buying two more to put into my two carbines.
+1 for Geissele! I was never a fan of high priced triggers. I can work with just about any trigger. I finally got tired of having different pull weights/ feel on every rifle so I bought two Geissele SSAs for my precision rifles and LOVE them! I am now working on buying two more to put into my two carbines.
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For a precision rifle, I recommend the Geissele SSA-E. It's a two-stage trigger with a 2.3# first and a crisp 1.2# second. I've tried the SSA model and for a precision rifle I felt it wasn'tthe best option so I thought I'd give the SSA-E a try and I'm so glad I did!
For a precision rifle, I recommend the Geissele SSA-E. It's a two-stage trigger with a 2.3# first and a crisp 1.2# second. I've tried the SSA model and for a precision rifle I felt it wasn'tthe best option so I thought I'd give the SSA-E a try and I'm so glad I did!
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Thanks guys. I had a sneaky suspicion which trigger would be recommended the most.
Thanks guys. I had a sneaky suspicion which trigger would be recommended the most.
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I will add to the mix... not that my .02 matters much... but, I shoot the GA SSA in all of my carbines that we have on staff, and the GA SD-E in my precision rigs.
As mentioned, the flat trigger shoe (bow) is not for everyone... but, once you shoot it, and get the feel for it, it is the CAT's MEOW!!!
I like the added mechanical advantage (however slight) it gives, by allowing you to position the trigger finger further down on the shoe (bow) than a normal curved trigger.
I do believe that the SSA-E and the SD-E are the "same" as far as pull weight / break / reset is concerned... just that the SD-E has the flat shoe (bow) and the SSA-E is the traditional curved trigger. (not 100% sure, but that's my understanding...)
Best of luck with your decision... but to echo the other posters, you can't go wrong with any off Bill's triggers. He sure makes a good one!
Cheers!
I will add to the mix... not that my .02 matters much... but, I shoot the GA SSA in all of my carbines that we have on staff, and the GA SD-E in my precision rigs.
As mentioned, the flat trigger shoe (bow) is not for everyone... but, once you shoot it, and get the feel for it, it is the CAT's MEOW!!!
I like the added mechanical advantage (however slight) it gives, by allowing you to position the trigger finger further down on the shoe (bow) than a normal curved trigger.
I do believe that the SSA-E and the SD-E are the "same" as far as pull weight / break / reset is concerned... just that the SD-E has the flat shoe (bow) and the SSA-E is the traditional curved trigger. (not 100% sure, but that's my understanding...)
Best of luck with your decision... but to echo the other posters, you can't go wrong with any off Bill's triggers. He sure makes a good one!
Cheers!
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The only aftermarket trigger I have owned is the Geissele SSA-E, which is excellent. Better than most standard AR triggers. Although, with that said, most standard AR triggers (or the ones I've shot, at least) aren't too bad. It's not an absolutely critical upgrade, but nice to have.
The only aftermarket trigger I have owned is the Geissele SSA-E, which is excellent. Better than most standard AR triggers. Although, with that said, most standard AR triggers (or the ones I've shot, at least) aren't too bad. It's not an absolutely critical upgrade, but nice to have.
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Any comment on the chip mccormick? I just put one in my 223 ar and liked it so much I put it in my ar10, havent shot it yet but I shoot Fed GMM ammo. I never considered the spring to be too light to ignite the primers?????
Any comment on the chip mccormick? I just put one in my 223 ar and liked it so much I put it in my ar10, havent shot it yet but I shoot Fed GMM ammo. I never considered the spring to be too light to ignite the primers?????
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Thanks for all the opinions. I'm pretty sure it will be a SSA-E. My brother just put one in one of his rifles and will not shut up about it.
Thanks for all the opinions. I'm pretty sure it will be a SSA-E. My brother just put one in one of his rifles and will not shut up about it.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 308mk4</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks for all the opinions. I'm pretty sure it will be a SSA-E. My brother just put one in one of his rifles and will not shut up about it.</div></div>
Great choice!
If you decide you don't like it for whatever reason, you won't have any problem selling it here on the 'Hide. Just be sure you have the required 100 posts before before selling anything.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 308mk4</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks for all the opinions. I'm pretty sure it will be a SSA-E. My brother just put one in one of his rifles and will not shut up about it.</div></div>
Great choice!
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Geissele triggers are great. There is no question about that. If you are going to compete then you should use a high quality trigger. However not all of us compete nor can we all afford a $200 plus dollar trigger for plinking or shooting varmints. A nice low cost alternative is to get Bill Springfield to do a trigger job on your existing trigger. He charges between $40 and $60 to work an AR trigger and guarantees satisfaction. Very fast turn around too. Just an alternative that works.
Geissele triggers are great. There is no question about that. If you are going to compete then you should use a high quality trigger. However not all of us compete nor can we all afford a $200 plus dollar trigger for plinking or shooting varmints. A nice low cost alternative is to get Bill Springfield to do a trigger job on your existing trigger. He charges between $40 and $60 to work an AR trigger and guarantees satisfaction. Very fast turn around too. Just an alternative that works.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DMack</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I will add to the mix... not that my .02 matters much... but, I shoot the GA SSA in all of my carbines that we have on staff, and the GA SD-E in my precision rigs.
As mentioned, the flat trigger shoe (bow) is not for everyone... but, once you shoot it, and get the feel for it, it is the CAT's MEOW!!!
I like the added mechanical advantage (however slight) it gives, by allowing you to position the trigger finger further down on the shoe (bow) than a normal curved trigger.
I do believe that the SSA-E and the SD-E are the "same" as far as pull weight / break / reset is concerned... just that the SD-E has the flat shoe (bow) and the SSA-E is the traditional curved trigger. (not 100% sure, but that's my understanding...)
Best of luck with your decision... but to echo the other posters, you can't go wrong with any off Bill's triggers. He sure makes a good one!
Cheers! </div></div>
I have to agree: the flat trigger on the SD-E is awesome. My groups definitely tightened up after switching to that trigger from my spikes enhanced trigger w/ JP springs (and the spikes was a very smooth trigger - but was a stock design and not designed for a precision rifle).
In all honesty - the trigger is one of the few places to blow money in an AR. Many people justify $200+ stocks and 300+ quad rails... I think I paid $180 for my SD-E from midway when they first came out. Well worth the money!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DMack</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I will add to the mix... not that my .02 matters much... but, I shoot the GA SSA in all of my carbines that we have on staff, and the GA SD-E in my precision rigs.
As mentioned, the flat trigger shoe (bow) is not for everyone... but, once you shoot it, and get the feel for it, it is the CAT's MEOW!!!
I like the added mechanical advantage (however slight) it gives, by allowing you to position the trigger finger further down on the shoe (bow) than a normal curved trigger.
I do believe that the SSA-E and the SD-E are the "same" as far as pull weight / break / reset is concerned... just that the SD-E has the flat shoe (bow) and the SSA-E is the traditional curved trigger. (not 100% sure, but that's my understanding...)
Best of luck with your decision... but to echo the other posters, you can't go wrong with any off Bill's triggers. He sure makes a good one!
Cheers! </div></div>
I have to agree: the flat trigger on the SD-E is awesome. My groups definitely tightened up after switching to that trigger from my spikes enhanced trigger w/ JP springs (and the spikes was a very smooth trigger - but was a stock design and not designed for a precision rifle).
In all honesty - the trigger is one of the few places to blow money in an AR. Many people justify $200+ stocks and 300+ quad rails... I think I paid $180 for my SD-E from midway when they first came out. Well worth the money!
