Trump is back…the “Now What” thread

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The counter argument will be that Trump has now inadvertently done the very thing the WEF wants - population reduction. Not through war or famine but through drug unaffordablility to most of the world.

I also expect lawsuits, the UN complaints and even higher drug company PAC donations and lobbyists to arrive immediately.
 
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Would like to hear how EU health care was subsidised by US, its not free its just single payer system with public non profit insurers , and big pharma doesn't get to charge whatever they make up like in US

Trump is full of shit on this one , much of trade inbalance is purely US choice some of it is basicaly down to protection in form of tarrifs, he also likes to skip the services where US has a huge surplus , US cars were designed around US gasoline prices, you are not going to sell those abroad, Tesla for EU is made in China, US food is basically poison much of it filled with substances that were illegal in EU decades ago, again domestic choice , that is what RFK Jr is trying to fix , But its not someone exploiting US

The healthcare angle is most ridiculous of all. US lawmakers and media basicaly run on Pfizer and in return ,big pharma gets to charge whatever it wants. Gets to game patent laws to last forever

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this is a terrific move. we get hard workers who are thrilled to be here. we get families of upstanding people who will likey support the US for generations. i hope we get 1000s + of them. we actually owe them because we threw SA and Rhodesia under the bus for domestic baboon politics. led to the current SA genocide which has been going on at least 20 yrs.
i doubt the libs will get the opposite outcome between importing civilized people and the admission of millions of unaccompanied mil age males. Trump still has his work cut out for him there.
 
Would like to hear how EU health care was subsidised by US, its not free its just single payer system with public non profit insurers , and big pharma doesn't get to charge whatever they make up like in US

Trump is full of shit on this one , much of trade inbalance is purely US choice some of it is basicaly down to protection in form of tarrifs, he also likes to skip the services where US has a huge surplus , US cars were designed around US gasoline prices, you are not going to sell those abroad, Tesla for EU is made in China, US food is basically poison much of it filled with substances that were illegal in EU decades ago, again domestic choice , that is what RFK Jr is trying to fix , But its not someone exploiting US

The healthcare angle is most ridiculous of all. US lawmakers and media basicaly run on Pfizer and in return ,big pharma gets to charge whatever it wants. Gets to game patent laws to last forever

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Lol, it is a form of subsidizing when such a disproportionate % of their revenue/profits are from the US. It's valid to ask why that is, and I agree it's the "system".

Non-profit insurers 🤣, well....what makes that possible but on the backs of the US taxpayer/patients and US insurers (who are in on it too)? Pharma going to get those profits some way or another...

Specifically, what are US beef cattle treated with that is outlawed in the EU?
 
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Lol, it is a form of subsidizing when such a disproportionate % of their revenue/profits are from the US. It's valid to ask why that is, and I agree it's the "system".

Non-profit insurers 🤣, well....what makes that possible but on the backs of the US taxpayer/patients and US insurers (who are in on it too)? Pharma going to get those profits some way or another...

Specifically, what are US beef cattle treated with that is outlawed in the EU?
Not realy

Non-profit insurers are all state owned one way or another ,have absolute monopoly ,private insurers mainly offer extra coverage. Has nothing to do with US insurers or taxpayers .
Medical insurance especially when they have a monopoly (prescirption drugs) holds most of the leverage when it comes to negotiating prices ,as you either negotiate a price or you are not selling at all.There is no choice of taking business to someone else. Next factor is use of generics that is far more common than in US ,due to different patent and trademark laws that are bend over backward to enable max extraction for Pharma players ,further cutting pharmas bargaing power and third and most important one US Congress and Senate for decades blocked negotiating down drug prices at every step.

US beef is packing more steroids and antibiotics than your local gym ,use of growth homones has been banned in europe already in the 80's .

US meat is not banned in Europe.EU laws requires that food meets certain standards if it is to be sold to the public.
Some European meat fails those standards and cannot be sold in Europe as well. Quality meat from US sold in EU


''1989, the European Communities banned the import of meat that contained artificial beef growth hormones,[a] although they were approved for use in the United States''
A series of "hormone scandals" emerged in Italy in the late 1970s and early 1980s. The first, in 1977, was the discovery of premature puberty in northern Italian schoolchildren. Investigators cast suspicion on school lunches that used illegal hormone-treated meat.


Then there is issue of extensive use of antibiotics , even the beef that is adverised to be anitibiotics free is not.Its even worse in poulty.
It’s been estimated that 70 percent of medically-important antibiotics sold in the U.S. — those used to treat human infections — are used to produce meat, dairy and other animal-sourced products. The difference between what’s presented on labels and actual use means the public may not understand the urgency. “It is going to mean that we don’t have the full appreciation of the pressure our agricultural industry puts on the ability of those drugs to resolve human infections,”


Important difference is that in EU doubt in safety is enough vs US it has to be proven beyond shadow of a doubt (you can imagine science is more often than not beholden to $$$) .But that is also why there is a huge divergence on chemicals that are permited in US food.

The EU often applies the precautionary principle very stringently in regards to food safety. The precautionary principle means that in a case of scientific uncertainty, the government may take appropriate measures proportionate to the potential risk.
 
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fucking retarded

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In the old neighborhood I had a neighbor who was born and raised in South Africa. Petit blonde with a British accent. She was married to a Hungarian guy. They both earned their US citizenship. Two of the most racist people you'd ever be likely to meet in your life. The Klan didn't have anything on them because they didn't need hoods to speak their minds. Despite all that we were "friends".

On the one street section in the neighborhood where we lived there just happened to be no neighbors of "color". All pasty white anglo descent trash with cash.

Finally one day a mixed race couple moved into one of the houses. This became the focus of dinner conversation at their house one night. The tragedy. The horror. We'll have to lock our yard gates now!

Once she had a chance to wind down a little I said "You know he's not the first African-American on the street?".

The shock on her face was delicious "What?!? Who?!?! Where?!?!".

When I uncurled my finger pointing at her without saying a word the shock instantly melted into indignation.

She refused to talk to me for two months.

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