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I just got a breathless phone call from my impressionable bleeding heart son № 2, to tell me that Trump was touting rationales for conducting warfare against several nations.

Anybody got any better info on that?

 

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Hmm. I just heard ABC refer to Trump's promise to destroy North Korea, if it tries to make good on a threat to hurt us or our allies, as a "war crime."

Fuck that noise.

 

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He's right...

Warfare against "Rocket Man" and his regime? If necessary, I view it with sober trepidation but in the understanding that these things sometimes come to pass. Aiding the Venezuelan people who are suffering the excesses of the Maduro regime? Again, no problem. Continuing sanctions against Cuba? No issues there, either. Prosecuting terrorists rather than nation building? No issues. Putting our interests ahead of the establishment of an international welfare agency? Why not? I'm not sure what's bad in any of that, but I'm listening to the speech from the beginning just in case I missed the point where Trump sprouted horns and a bifurcated tail. Just in case.
 

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    Any threat that is not perceived as real by the threatened is useless. NOKO know their threats are useless, and they need to believe Trumps threats are real. I think they do even though in the past our threats were hollow.
     

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    Okay, now he's calling an Iranian spade a spade. (Watching it from the beginning.) I think the butthurt can't deal with blunt honesty.
     

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    eh, anytime i hear the liberal faggots screeching autistically....it take that as a good sign..... because it usually means Trump is actually doing something good for the country
     

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    eh, anytime i hear the liberal faggots screeching autistically....it take that as a good sign..... because it usually means Trump is actually doing something good for the country

    Like this?

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    Hmm. I just heard ABC refer to Trump's promise to destroy North Korea, if it tries to make good on a threat to hurt us or our allies, as a "war crime."

    Fuck that noise.

    Screw ABC.

    However, I don't think a military response is best 1st step unless Rocket Man fires the first shot. If he does that, then we have no choice. However, it will have incredible ramifications for all of us...financial ramifications on a scale not seen prior. South Korea is a sole source technology center for many things people take for granted. Any military exchange will hurt them and us. I doubt that this will occur despite the fact that he appears to be unstable.

    I believe that we somehow have to get some dialogue going. It may lead nowhere but in all honesty, it has not been tried before. Placating DPRK through concessions like Jug Ears did with Iran is a no-go. Iran will continue to thumb their nose at us. The DPRK will follow suit. You can never deal from a position of weakness. Jug Ears didn't understand it or ,more than likely, chose not to for other reasons.

    If anyone can get the DPRK to come to the table and start talking, it is our present POTUS.
     

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    What do you all make of today's announcements?

    ok ill bite to get this show started....

    1) Trump making it blatantly clear to N korea they will be wiped off the map if they do anything stupid......good, its about time an american leader had the balls to say it.

    2) Trump making it blatantly clear the Iran deal was complete bullshit, and the world will come to regret it in 15-20 years......good, its about time an american leader had the balls to say it.

    3) Trump calling out the BS of the UN for not doing a damn thing, and for making the US bear the brunt of the work.......good, its about time an american leader had the balls to say it.

    4 Trump on Venezuela .......personally i think we should stay the fuck out of Venezuela, they are getting what they had coming to them......vote in socalism, reap the rewards....the rest of the world should take this as a warning.
     

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    What do you all make of today's announcements?

    I think the UN janitors are going to be wiping piss off seats for the rest of the night and that dry cleaners in that neighborhood will have some stains to remove.
     

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    The only way your going to bring NK to the concession table is via a body bag. That statement is based on the 52 years I have kept up to date with their B/S. If anyone thinks they can talk NK into giving up NUKES they need time on the couch. Point to were in the NK history, they gave up anything for very long after they cried uncle. The only thing they understand is brute force. That little cocksucker will starve his own people to get what he wants, that not tell you anything? The only way to stop his ass is with a lightning decapitation then warn his complete military, they are next unless they stand down. My guess is the bulk of the military brass will quickly fold up, as they are way more afraid of him, then ever being ruled by the south. Which would you rather have, a AA gun pointed at you, or hope an a full belly, for you and your children. I would like to think the US has been planning for this for a while now an if it comes to pass, DS 1 will look like a Boy scout training exercise, compared. I understand we don't openly want to give up, Intel or latest an greatest platforms, but this bag of shit needs to go!

    Kill his ass an get that war over with.
     

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    I think the UN janitors are going to be wiping piss off seats for the rest of the night and that dry cleaners in that neighborhood will have some stains to remove.

    Better send it out to the specialists.

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    Helluva Job. Loved It. For those in attendance thinking this is just another foray into blowing smoke up people's asses, probably outta think again. Guess who'd been put on notice. EVERYONE. ;)
     

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    I also thought it was pretty good . From what I saw just on the first 10 minutes on the speech he pretty much went against the grain of the UN and the cause of PissedOff liberal socialism screeching . Driving in the 3 points.( Separate, Sovereign and Independence ) All nations respecting each others values and culture. With Letting all the citizens of independent sovereign nations, free to choose and work for there own destinies, citizens will flourish through individualism, with independence given by God .
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    Great speech. Unfortunately, he did not say that the U.S. was going to fund moving the UN out of New York.... and setting up the new Headquarters in, say, Lesotho.

    Let them try and live their diplomatic U.S.-funded high-life in a third world crap hole. We can sell the real-estate and pay for the whole cost of the move.

    When is the world going to wake up to the fact that our generosity is at an end... when all these asshole nations crap on us all the time. The U.N. is a worthless organization... almost as useless as the EU. Since Korea (and that ended well...) they have done nothing for the world. Except suck off the teat of the American taxpayer, while condemning America every day for being... America.

    Screw the U.N. Send them packing. Let Cuba fund them...

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    With the exception of Venezuela, he said everything that the people who put him in office believe . Fuck North Korea , Fuck Iran and Fuck Globalist driven bullshit .
     

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    The reactions from the leftist hysterosphere are priceless.

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    The reactions from the leftist hysterosphere are priceless.

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    yes poor kim jong un....the helpless victim of western aggression....

    maybe we should box up my Nguyen and drop her off in her peoples paradise of N korea......then she can see what an actual totilitarian nutcase looks like.
     

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    The orange man is now the hope and dream of all the future amnesty seekers he cut deals with the dems to legalize. I dont believe a word this fuk face says he is a goddam liar. Good PT Barnum pitch for a bunch of foreigners that reside in my country. The fact that the UN building even exists in my country is offensive to our history and a danger to our freedom.

    This mother fuker wants to be liked, it will be his and our downfall. he is cutting deals with the evilest fukers in our country, Chuck and Nancy. Fk him.He was the last peaceful attempt, now we will watch the shit show accelerate and the destruction of the swamp and the deep state to proceed with speed. Long live the Constitutional Republic fuck the UN and the world. The biggest danger to our republic is in a 20 mile circle around DC.
     

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    The orange man is now the hope and dream of all the future amnesty seekers he cut deals with the dems to legalize. I dont believe a word this fuk face says he is a goddam liar. Good PT Barnum pitch for a bunch of foreigners that reside in my country. The fact that the UN building even exists in my country is offensive to our history and a danger to our freedom.

    This mother fuker wants to be liked, it will be his and our downfall. he is cutting deals with the evilest fukers in our country, Chuck and Nancy. Fk him.He was the last peaceful attempt, now we will watch the shit show accelerate and the destruction of the swamp and the deep state to proceed with speed. Long live the Constitutional Republic fuck the UN and the world. The biggest danger to our republic is in a 20 mile circle around DC.

    Meds, take them.......
     

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    when you spend a year promising very specific things to a population that is sick and tired of the same shit then proceed to back track on every god dam one of those promises you can not be taken seriously by allies or enemies. He has turned out to be a attention whore POS who wants to be liked. Art of the deal,ha I seen kids on a lemonade stand do better deals that this fake fuk.
     

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    The only way your going to bring NK to the concession table is via a body bag. That statement is based on the 52 years I have kept up to date with their B/S. If anyone thinks they can talk NK into giving up NUKES they need time on the couch. Point to were in the NK history, they gave up anything for very long after they cried uncle. The only thing they understand is brute force. That little cocksucker will starve his own people to get what he wants, that not tell you anything? The only way to stop his ass is with a lightning decapitation then warn his complete military, they are next unless they stand down. My guess is the bulk of the military brass will quickly fold up, as they are way more afraid of him, then ever being ruled by the south. Which would you rather have, a AA gun pointed at you, or hope an a full belly, for you and your children. I would like to think the US has been planning for this for a while now an if it comes to pass, DS 1 will look like a Boy scout training exercise, compared. I understand we don't openly want to give up, Intel or latest an greatest platforms, but this bag of shit needs to go!

    Kill his ass an get that war over with.

    You aren't factoring in the cult of personality. They aren't just afraid of him, they are afraid of what they've been told --top brass has probably been ensured that if he goes and Korea is united, then they will all hang or worse. You saw his cabal at that missile launch didn't you? They were just as happy as he was that it worked.

    Just like the government here hinges our survival on the survival of the abhorrent political system in place here, so does NK there.

    And at the end of the day, can you REALLY fault them for wanting nukes? Any country? Pandora's box was opened and unfortunately, the scientists and scientific community at the time with no balls didn't burn the research, because god knows the fucking army and government can't make a nuke without us. But they knew that and kept it compartmentalized so that wouldn't happen.

    As long as ONE nuke exists on this planet, every country, and with right, will want one too. And maybe need 'em. NK has one thing going for it --US has zero assets in that country, and that's about the only country on Earth like that. Don't think they'll give up that place any time soon.

    And yes, Kim would rather kill his own people, it's a given, than give up the bomb. He already said "they'd eat grass". Wonder if he was talking about himself, the fat pudgy fuck could use a grass diet.
     

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    You aren't factoring in the cult of personality. They aren't just afraid of him, they are afraid of what they've been told --top brass has probably been ensured that if he goes and Korea is united, then they will all hang or worse. You saw his cabal at that missile launch didn't you? They were just as happy as he was that it worked.

    Just like the government here hinges our survival on the survival of the abhorrent political system in place here, so does NK there.

    And at the end of the day, can you REALLY fault them for wanting nukes? Any country? Pandora's box was opened and unfortunately, the scientists and scientific community at the time with no balls didn't burn the research, because god knows the fucking army and government can't make a nuke without us. But they knew that and kept it compartmentalized so that wouldn't happen.

    As long as ONE nuke exists on this planet, every country, and with right, will want one too. And maybe need 'em. NK has one thing going for it --US has zero assets in that country, and that's about the only country on Earth like that. Don't think they'll give up that place any time soon.

    And yes, Kim would rather kill his own people, it's a given, than give up the bomb. He already said "they'd eat grass". Wonder if he was talking about himself, the fat pudgy fuck could use a grass diet.

    The power Kim holds, what similar authoritarian regimes exist on, is to implicate the rest of "the party" in the crimes.

    Once they are guilty they can not withdraw. It usually ends at the end of a noose or with a pistol to the temple.

    Now in order to maintain power the crimes have to become bigger and bigger. If they don't you lose the power of fear. A bullet in the back of the head may become considered a clean merciful death so you raise the stakes with a public anti aircraft gun execution.

    The Kronstadt sailors recognized their mistake in supporting Bolshevism and their fates ended in execution or death on the battlefield. They suffered one merciful honorable death where as the coward suffers many.
     

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    Great speech. Unfortunately, he did not say that the U.S. was going to fund moving the UN out of New York.... and setting up the new Headquarters in, say, Lesotho.

    Let them try and live their diplomatic U.S.-funded high-life in a third world crap hole. We can sell the real-estate and pay for the whole cost of the move.

    When is the world going to wake up to the fact that our generosity is at an end... when all these asshole nations crap on us all the time. The U.N. is a worthless organization... almost as useless as the EU. Since Korea (and that ended well...) they have done nothing for the world. Except suck off the teat of the American taxpayer, while condemning America every day for being... America.

    Screw the U.N. Send them packing. Let Cuba fund them...

    Cheers,

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    The UN is not our friend,

    When you tolerate a hostile irritant inside your own body long enough, it often brings on cancer.

    I think it's time for a radical UN-ectomy.

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    You aren't factoring in the cult of personality. They aren't just afraid of him, they are afraid of what they've been told --top brass has probably been ensured that if he goes and Korea is united, then they will all hang or worse. You saw his cabal at that missile launch didn't you? They were just as happy as he was that it worked.
    The ones we grabbed long ago when his grandfather an father were in control, were happy to get snatched. The story's they told checked out 100%. There was but a small group that controlled that hole shit hole back when, which I suspect it's still the same way today. In that close circle if you don't dance you don't last long. The crying, clapping, rejoicing, is but show for the fuck in power at the time, or the new fuck coming into power. Ike's ( Dwight D.Esienhower) plan was simple which is why they called for a truce, but Ike was embroiled in home issues and he turned it over to others. The signed outcome was not to his liking but, other matters at the time were far worst an more pressing so it stood.
    I believe a decapitation is on the table, an it's just a matter of time before it's actionable. Even as old as I am knowing it would be a one way ticket for me, I'd dance again just to get some pay back. I don't say that lightly as I do not hold those feeling for anyone else on this rock I played tag with but, the NK military has always been a special project of mine an will be until the day I die. Those in leadership are some very sick fucks, an I'd be very happy to cure their illness. There are only two things I wanted to see come to an end before I die, one was the Berlin wall come down, an the NK leadership go up in smoke. I got one, but would like to have the other even as a life parting gift, if need be. I hate the NK leadership with a passion, an dislike their military, but hold nothing against the NK people at all, (can't say that) about other theme parks. No one gets to chose where they are born, but one gets to chose to take one for the team if need be.
     

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    The UN is not our friend,

    When you tolerate a hostile irritant inside your own body long enough, it often brings on cancer.

    I think it's time for a radical UN-ectomy.

    Greg

    They haven't stopped any wars but their actions have ensured when there is a war it is bloodier and more hateful than if had of just kicked off at the first drop of the gauntlet.
     

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    Gun19e2 is spot on about NK but there is a small problem of actually getting him. If you fail then there will be a shitstorm to deal with, amount of artillery and conventional weapons that can reach in depth of SK is staggering and damage would be huge. NK and SK are really good warriors they've proven this and fighting NK would be something totally different than fighting muslim bullshit band of pussies. What US policy reminds me of (and in this case is the same as NK) is of Yugo policy in 60's or 70's where there was a desperate need of external enemy to keep stuff flowing domestically. Kim needs US as enemy to keep his minions in check as country is completely fucked and US more and more needs its external enemy(ies) to focus people on as country is completely fucked domestically. Basically win- win for KIm and US establishment (aka Borg collective) and loose-loose for peoples of NK and US....



     

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    Gun19e2 is spot on about NK but there is a small problem of actually getting him. If you fail then there will be a shitstorm to deal with, amount of artillery and conventional weapons that can reach in depth of SK is staggering and damage would be huge. NK and SK are really good warriors they've proven this and fighting NK would be something totally different than fighting muslim bullshit band of pussies. What US policy reminds me of (and in this case is the same as NK) is of Yugo policy in 60's or 70's where there was a desperate need of external enemy to keep stuff flowing domestically. Kim needs US as enemy to keep his minions in check as country is completely fucked and US more and more needs its external enemy(ies) to focus people on as country is completely fucked domestically. Basically win- win for KIm and US establishment (aka Borg collective) and loose-loose for peoples of NK and US....

    The last time the US went on the offensive against North Korea they evaporated within a matter of weeks.

    China and it's over abundance of walking bullet receptacles is the problem.

    Yes the artillery is an issue but in every battle that was supposed to be decided by the artillery before the Infantry stepped off the Infantry ended up walking into a wall of unharmed soldiers "pounded" by the artillery.

    Rocket Man will get about 24-72 hours to shell Seoul and it effectiveness will weaken by the hour.

    NK conscripts though well brainwashed will quickly lose their vigor. The show units that are Praetorian Guard and provided special status will have to be dealt with.

    The unknown will be his nukes and what China does.

    Yes it will be tough but if the US mil is unleashed and China stays out it will succeed.

    It will succeed to the point victory is certain than we will fuck it up slow down, tighten rules of engagement, bow to the pressure of Eritrea filing a protest in the UN and totally fuck it up turning into a quagmire that becomes another festering sore upon our country.

    The strategy needs to be stated beforehand.

    Strategy

    We are coming to remove Kim and destroy all nuclear capability. Hostilities cease when Kim is out of power and contractors of the United States have access to all nuclear facilities for the purpose of dismantling them.

    Disposition of the area formerly known as North Korea will be determined by South Korea. When security is attained the area of the Yalu will be a demilitarized zone for 20 miles south of the river. It is expected China will respond in kind North of the river to New Koreas good faith gesture.

    The US will depart the entire Korean Peninsula once New Korea has established security. US units will be redeployed for field training on the northern and southern US borders where they will patrol said borders and spend their pay in the local economy.

    There will be no nation building of Formerly North Korea but New Korea will get favored low interest loans from the US.

    End of strategy.

    Tactics.

    Locate, close with and destroy the enemy by fire and maneuver utilizing whatever weapons are available in the US Arsenal to ensure victory at the lowest cost in AMERICAN and ALLIED service men and citizens lives. Casualties on the opposing lines whether military or civilian are the responsibility of the Kim regime continuing to engage in hostilities. He will be judged accordingly for what he has made us do.
     
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    If you fail then there will be a shitstorm to deal with,
    We should not fail to get him at all given whats available these days. Others may have to travel to the other-side with him but so be it. We have had many a chance up to now, with all the launch's he openly watched an other events to-date. Even if we have to bait his ass with Rodman again wearing a good watch or pair of shoes, I'm good with that as well. I don't understand the arty issue some bring up at all, as most of it is clumped together. Two- ten tomahawks after they are blinded with directional EMP's, problem solved. Some are installing/chasing obstacles that are easy to over come from a military point of view.

    As far as China an Russia getting uppity, I don't see that happening as China needs us way more than they need NK an they know that. Russia has it's hand full in eastern euro and tell ya the truth they are having many issues just with that problem. They are not the Russian empire of old yet, an w/o using Nukes will have trouble with the E/E gig let alone a US Russian game of tag over the NK shit hole. There is nothing in NK the Russians need or want, so unless they signed a pac with China, saying they would get a port afterwards, I don't see them ponying up. Even if they did fighting on two fronts at once is not within the Russian ability at this time.