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Trump Rounding up USPS boxes- Yes!

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1911addict42

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    Edit: Dismantling the post office before elections to take away the mail in ballot option. They are doing this by cutting funding and apparently, removing drop off boxes. Lol!
    Love the gutsiness and cleverness of it. Early reports that this is going on in many places. Dunno if it’s true...
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    Postal slowdown, mailbox removal before November election sparks mounting concerns

    A series of high-profile changes at the U.S. Postal Service and warning letters about delivering ballots on time for the November election have touched off a nationwide firestorm about the viability of the USPS during the coronavirus pandemic.
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    USPS picks up mail at your house.
    USPS boxes,,those blue boxes,,have been stolen from
    I send mail where I work,,I know it won't be stolen. Or I stop by the post office,,drop it to outgoing slots,,not stolen that way either.
     
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    1911addict42 said:
    They’re temporarily dismantling the post office so mail in ballots won’t be an option for elections.
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    Lies lies lies

    Any other company in the red for 20 + years. Would be filing chapter 11.
    USPS needs revamping,,get rid of dead weight 30+ yr workers,,knew way to many .
    If you can't improve,you become stagnant.
     
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    1911addict42 said:
    Edit: Dismantling the post office before elections to take away the mail in ballot option. They are doing this by cutting funding and apparently, removing drop off boxes. Lol!
    Love the gutsiness and cleverness of it. Early reports that this is going on in many places. Dunno if it’s true...
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    I don't know you and really don't care, but your facts are bald face lies

    They are refusing to give additional funds to the USPS in the latest round of Covid funding

    In the shadow of the Loop Clark Street U.S. Post Office Friday, Sen. Dick Durbin issued a call to support the U.S. Postal Service financially.

    "If we don't make the PO service work for the good of America and invest the money to make it happen, it will not only have an impact on our economy but our democracy," Durbin said.


    Durbin and others urge the USPS to reverse operational changes to improve service and for the Senate to appropriate money to the federal agency.

    "Everyone else needs help, what's to say that the postal service doesn't need additional help," U.S. Rep. Danny Davis said.

    A meeting of the Postal Service Board of Governors Friday morning revealed financial challenges for the agency, as there is more demand for labor-intensive package delivery and increased absenteeism during the COVID-19 pandemic.

    "We remain on an unsustainable path; our current path doesn't allow us to pay our current bills, let alone new ones," Post Master General Louis DeJoy said.
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    USPS funding: Sen. Durbin pushes for financial support as post master general notes challenges amid coronavirus pandemic


    USPS financial viability continues to be high risk because USPS cannot fund its current level of services and financial obligations from its revenues. As stated in GAO’s 2019 High-Risk update, USPS faces financial challenges that include the following:

    • Poor financial situation: USPS’s overall financial condition is deteriorating and unsustainable. USPS has lost $69 billion over the past 11 fiscal years—including $3.9 billion in fiscal year 2018. USPS’s total unfunded liabilities and debt ($143 billion at the end of fiscal year 2018) have grown to double its annual revenue.
    • Insufficient cost savings: The savings from USPS cost-reduction efforts have dwindled in recent years. Although USPS has stated that it will aggressively reduce costs within its control, its plans will not achieve the kind of savings necessary to significantly reduce current operating costs.
    • Unfavorable trends: USPS’s expenses are now growing faster than its revenues—partly due to rising compensation and benefits costs and continuing declines in the volume of First-Class Mail.
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    U.S. Postal Service's Financial Viability - High Risk Issue
     
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    The USPS union has endorsed Biden. The USPS let it's workers actively work for the Hillary campaign. Basic logic should tell anyone that letting a bunch of partisans process the vote is a really bad idea. So far we have seen ballots sent to dogs, cats, dead people and folks that are not citizens.

    In addition we have seen many primary elections that have "screwed the pooch" due to mass mail voting. Mr. or Mrs. 1911 which ever it is, seems to have an agenda. That agenda seems to be to create chaos and get a reaction that can score themselves a few New World Order points.
     
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    FS1 said:
    The USPS union has endorsed Biden. The USPS let it's workers actively work for the Hillary campaign. Basic logic should tell anyone that letting a bunch of partisans process the vote is a really bad idea. So far we have seen ballots sent to dogs, cats, dead people and folks that are not citizens.

    In addition we have seen many primary elections that have "screwed the pooch" due to mass mail voting. Mr. or Mrs. 1911 which ever it is, seems to have an agenda. That agenda seems to be to create chaos and get a reaction that can score themselves a few New World Order points.
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    Got something in the mail yesterday that pissed me off.

    The "Green" electricty cooperative has been trying to get me to sign on for their service for a year or so now.

    They make no power, have no generation capability, basically just buy power from those that do in supposedly a "Green manner" than want to "sell" this green power to me.

    Like they can ensure the electrons passing through the copper wires entering my house only come from a windmill while the carbon pushed electrons by pass my home.

    They guarantee more expensive power for the chance to put a unicorn and rainbow on your soul.

    The first time I was contacted this was an "opt out" program meaning my town was signing me up for it unless I sad no. I promptly said no and figured better to be fucked by the devil you know rather than the devil you dont.

    Yesterday I got a post card from them addressed to my 13 yo son.

    If he would send the post card back they would send him a $100 online card for signing up.

    So my 13 year old son, with an online gift card habit used to buy Fortnite skins and other stuff, had I not intercepted the card would likely have mailed it back for the $100 card.

    I dont know, strikes me as intentional, strikes me as based on intel of his computer/shopping history, strikes me as "Fuck you".
     
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    Maggot said:
    If you can do that what would stop you from driving to your friendly neighborhood polling place?
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    I completely agree, I was just arguing his point about mail boxes being removed. In person voting as a standard is the only way to go. Sure, absentee ballots should be available, but they must be requested by the voter.

    Just to let everyone know, my dad died in 1999 and he received balloting information for 6 or 7 years after his death. So, I'm sure that meant he was still on the records to vote. Yes, this is in a Democrat controlled state.
     
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    Downtown said:
    Ever met someone who really thought they wanted to think conservative, buy lots of expensive guns and hang around talking about them? Then that ingrained liberal streak just wouldn't be denied and they chased off all their new friends.
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    I read that first as steak. Probably closer to the truth to replace that with tube steak
     
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    Just an observation here,
    Dead relatives still registered to vote, for years and years, is the family's FAULT.
    You as the next of kin, or executor of the dead relative's estate have an obligation to close all accounts, notify the DMV, Voter registration, etc. Complaining about dead people voting and some of them being related to you is lazy.
     
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    Rocketvapor said:
    Just an observation here,
    Dead relatives still registered to vote, for years and years, is the family's FAULT.
    You as the next of kin, or executor of the dead relative's estate have an obligation to close all accounts, notify the DMV, Voter registration, etc. Complaining about dead people voting and some of them being related to you is lazy.
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    O Rly?

    Like all the welfare rats are going to do that?

    Then the commies complain when republicans want to clean up the voter rolls of dead and people who moved away?


    We should do like Iraq. Everyone votes on one day in person. And dips their thumb in ink.
    We have technology so we could just use facial recognition since requiring ID is “racist”.
    Voter fraud or voting twice should be a capital offense. Death penalty for sure.
     
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    A few years ago, the USPS was going to be dramatically revamped.... guess who stood in the way of it?

    One of the only things that Commie Bernie accomplished as a Senator was to block any post office reforms or cuts.

    Long-term planning? Or coincidence?

    Just wondering... where can I order a few thousand Ballots. Asking for a few thousand friends...

    sirhr
     
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    MadDuner said:
    Our new friend.....
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    Contrary to popular belief, not all conservatives that vote for Trump are uneducated, dumb, racist bullies. But when reading through your comments and others in the bear pit, one can certainly understand why the Lefties have so much confusion about this.
    I’ll stay away From Bear Pit, not because of defeat, but because it’s void of anything intelligent that’s worth having a discussion over.
     
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    1911addict42 said:
    Contrary to popular belief, not all conservatives that vote for Trump are uneducated, dumb, racist bullies. But when reading through your comments and others in the bear pit, one can certainly understand why the Lefties have so much confusion about this.
    I’ll stay away From Bear Pit, not because of defeat, but because it’s void of anything intelligent that’s worth having a discussion over.
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    We’ll miss you not.
     
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    1911addict42 said:
    Contrary to popular belief, not all conservatives that vote for Trump are uneducated, dumb, racist bullies. But when reading through your comments and others in the bear pit, one can certainly understand why the Lefties have so much confusion about this.
    I’ll stay away From Bear Pit, not because of defeat, but because it’s void of anything intelligent that’s worth having a discussion over.
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    Ah this was a good always like seeing the varying degrees of righteous indignation when the thin skinned don't get things their way. Pack up and go home like a 3 year old waaaaaaaambulance alert....all under the guise of no one is smart enough to engage them on their intellectual level.
     
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    Rocketvapor said:
    Just an observation here,
    Dead relatives still registered to vote, for years and years, is the family's FAULT.
    You as the next of kin, or executor of the dead relative's estate have an obligation to close all accounts, notify the DMV, Voter registration, etc. Complaining about dead people voting and some of them being related to you is lazy.
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    Not true. All these thing were done. All government agencies were notified of my father's death. Federal, State and Local governments were officially notified by my family lawyer.

    I trust our lawyer did his job.
     
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    I'm way less worried about collecting mailboxes, and way more worried about a conscious effort to slow mail delivery sufficiently to force people to polling locations during a pandemic instead of encouraging/enabling vote-by-mail. It just feels like a strategy borne of desperation. Am I the only person on this forum that (a) loves the 2nd Amendment ... AND ... (b) believes that every vote matters and should be enabled and counted in a democracy?

    I live in Oregon. We've been 100% vote-by-mail for many years, with pretty much "Zero" fraud. Same with the other vote-by-mail states.

    I'm afraid of how the 2nd Amendment will be treated in an all-Democratic government.
    I'm more afraid of what will happen if the current occupant of the White House openly cheats to win, contests the results, or refuses to accept them.

    That scenario isn't going to well for Belarus right now ... I'm just sayin' ... let everyone vote, and whoever wins ... wins. That's the way it's supposed to work.
     
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    rustyinbend said:
    I'm way less worried about collecting mailboxes, and way more worried about a conscious effort to slow mail delivery sufficiently to force people to polling locations during a pandemic instead of encouraging/enabling vote-by-mail. It just feels like a strategy borne of desperation. Am I the only person on this forum that (a) loves the 2nd Amendment ... AND ... (b) believes that every vote matters and should be enabled and counted in a democracy?

    I live in Oregon. We've been 100% vote-by-mail for many years, with pretty much "Zero" fraud. Same with the other vote-by-mail states.

    I'm afraid of how the 2nd Amendment will be treated in an all-Democratic government.
    I'm more afraid of what will happen if the current occupant of the White House openly cheats to win, contests the results, or refuses to accept them.

    That scenario isn't going to well for Belarus right now ... I'm just sayin' ... let everyone vote, and whoever wins ... wins. That's the way it's supposed to work.
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    The vote by mail deal is an obvious ploy to steal the election.

    I think they should force everyone who isn’t deployed in the military to vote in person, show ID, and then dip their thumb in a purple disinfectant dye to complete their civic duty and legally vote in such an important election.

    I am willing to stand in line to assure a legal vote for once in my lifetime.
     
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    rustyinbend said:
    I'm way less worried about collecting mailboxes, and way more worried about a conscious effort to slow mail delivery sufficiently to force people to polling locations during a pandemic instead of encouraging/enabling vote-by-mail. It just feels like a strategy borne of desperation. Am I the only person on this forum that (a) loves the 2nd Amendment ... AND ... (b) believes that every vote matters and should be enabled and counted in a democracy?

    I live in Oregon. We've been 100% vote-by-mail for many years, with pretty much "Zero" fraud. Same with the other vote-by-mail states.

    I'm afraid of how the 2nd Amendment will be treated in an all-Democratic government.
    I'm more afraid of what will happen if the current occupant of the White House openly cheats to win, contests the results, or refuses to accept them.

    That scenario isn't going to well for Belarus right now ... I'm just sayin' ... let everyone vote, and whoever wins ... wins. That's the way it's supposed to work.
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    You’re not the only one! I vote Republican and support Trump but don’t agree with them on all the issues.
    The damage in trust to our voting system has been done...No matter who wins the White House this year, the loser is going to claim the victor cheated.
    I expect massive civil unrest either way. Hopefully I’m wrong.
     
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    rustyinbend said:
    I'm way less worried about collecting mailboxes, and way more worried about a conscious effort to slow mail delivery sufficiently to force people to polling locations during a pandemic instead of encouraging/enabling vote-by-mail. It just feels like a strategy borne of desperation. Am I the only person on this forum that (a) loves the 2nd Amendment ... AND ... (b) believes that every vote matters and should be enabled and counted in a democracy?

    I live in Oregon. We've been 100% vote-by-mail for many years, with pretty much "Zero" fraud. Same with the other vote-by-mail states.

    I'm afraid of how the 2nd Amendment will be treated in an all-Democratic government.
    I'm more afraid of what will happen if the current occupant of the White House openly cheats to win, contests the results, or refuses to accept them.

    That scenario isn't going to well for Belarus right now ... I'm just sayin' ... let everyone vote, and whoever wins ... wins. That's the way it's supposed to work.
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    I will give you a dimes worth of my two cents.

    Every legal vote should count. I doubt you could find a man on this site who disagrees. Also every illegal vote should not only not count, they should not even exist. Oregon's system is a well established system. No one can say there has been no fraud, because people are not allowed to truly look for it. Why? Because they don't want you to lose confidence in the vote. That is what exactly causes me to lose such confidence.

    Find the fraud, expose it, prosecute it and I will have lost little confidence in the vote. I lost that long ago. That confidence will begin being restored when I see justice start to happen. I am not chicken little. One bump in the head did not begin my lost confidence. It took many. The voter sky really is falling.

    A case in point. Michigan, Trump won by like 20,000 votes. The left screamed recount. But something funny happen on the way to the recount. The ballot did not reconcile. Mich just happens to have a law, no reconcile no recount. Odd law at best. See if you were rigging elections, you would want it to stay rigged, correct? So they pad the numbers and low and behold you can't eff them in a recount.

    But the Trump victory was so over whelming they were unable to create so many fake votes. I think this is partially due to that Trump placed people as poll observers in key cheating places. So they were unable to stuff the ballot in extreme. Do I know this as fact? No. But I do know the first count did not reconcile. Thus effing the Dems with their own law.

    If I am wrong why did the Dems not challenge the Constitutionality of that Michigan law? They tried everything else. They did not want to get caught under the guise of maintaining election integrity. So Voter fraud is real and rampant. DHS got a handle on it when they took over. So the Dems changed the system again.

    Wake the eff up. Voter fraud is real and I as a voter want it stopped. JMHO
     
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    rustyinbend said:
    I'm way less worried about collecting mailboxes, and way more worried about a conscious effort to slow mail delivery sufficiently to force people to polling locations during a pandemic instead of encouraging/enabling vote-by-mail. It just feels like a strategy borne of desperation. Am I the only person on this forum that (a) loves the 2nd Amendment ... AND ... (b) believes that every vote matters and should be enabled and counted in a democracy?

    I live in Oregon. We've been 100% vote-by-mail for many years, with pretty much "Zero" fraud. Same with the other vote-by-mail states.

    I'm afraid of how the 2nd Amendment will be treated in an all-Democratic government.
    I'm more afraid of what will happen if the current occupant of the White House openly cheats to win, contests the results, or refuses to accept them.

    That scenario isn't going to well for Belarus right now ... I'm just sayin' ... let everyone vote, and whoever wins ... wins. That's the way it's supposed to work.
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    So, you're okay with people going into Walmart, Target, Home Depot by the hundreds, but you don't think it's necessary to vote in person? You're okay with allowing thousands of people rioting or at the very least demonstrating, but not okay with in person voting?

    WOW.
     
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    1911addict42 said:
    You’re not the only one! I vote Republican and support Trump but don’t agree with them on all the issues.
    The damage in trust to our voting system has been done...No matter who wins the White House this year, the loser is going to claim the victor cheated.
    I expect massive civil unrest either way. Hopefully I’m wrong.
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    It's tough enough with in person voting issues (if you remember the hanging chad fiasco from years ago), then you'd realize the ginormous issues with mail in ballot voting.
     
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    BullGear said:
    It's tough enough with in person voting issues (if you remember the hanging chad fiasco from years ago), then you'd realize the ginormous issues with mail in ballot voting.
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    Sometimes problems don't have any good solutions.
    There's problems with mail in votes for sure. There's also problems with in-person only; it would force those that are immunocompromised, like the sick and elderly, to choose between in person voting or not voting at all. No good solutions for that other than mail in votes.
    That's not to say riots etc. isn't a double standard, we know it is.
     
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    1911addict42 said:
    Contrary to popular belief, not all conservatives that vote for Trump are uneducated, dumb, racist bullies. But when reading through your comments and others in the bear pit, one can certainly understand why the Lefties have so much confusion about this.
    I’ll stay away From Bear Pit, not because of defeat, but because it’s void of anything intelligent that’s worth having a discussion over.
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    I think Louisiana allows mail in ballots by request, not automatic.
    My town NEVER has a line, there is no issue about being in line at 8PM and still getting to vote at 10PM.
    If I had to stand in line for hours and hours and mail in was an option, then hello Mr. Postman.
    My 88yr old FIL is perfectly able to run his rolator up the ramp and vote in person but this year has sent in the request for a mail in.
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    Now, put 6 feet between every person :)
     
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    1911addict42 said:
    Sometimes problems don't have any good solutions.
    There's problems with mail in votes for sure. There's also problems with in-person only; it would force those that are immunocompromised, like the sick and elderly, to choose between in person voting or not voting at all. No good solutions for that other than mail in votes.
    That's not to say riots etc. isn't a double standard, we know it is.
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    That's why most states have the ability for a voter to request an Absentee Ballot. If you know you can't make it to a polling location on election day, you can ask for an absentee ballot. The absentee ballot is requested and the voter is verified before the ballot is sent out. This is usually a very secure way of voting. Others who are afraid of being in a line to vote on election day can usually vote during an Early voting period.
     
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    1911addict42 said:
    Contrary to popular belief, not all conservatives that vote for Trump are uneducated, dumb, racist bullies. But when reading through your comments and others in the bear pit, one can certainly understand why the Lefties have so much confusion about this.
    I’ll stay away From Bear Pit, not because of defeat, but because it’s void of anything intelligent that’s worth having a discussion over.
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    Goodbye felicia.
     
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    BullGear said:
    That's why most states have the ability for a voter to request an Absentee Ballot. If you know you can't make it to a polling location on election day, you can ask for an absentee ballot. The absentee ballot is requested and the voter is verified before the ballot is sent out. This is usually a very secure way of voting. Others who are afraid of being in a line to vote on election day can usually vote during an Early voting period.
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    I’ve never done it so I’m not familiar....what’s the difference between the absentee ballot and mail in vote? They don’t verify mail in but they do verify absentee?
     
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