Ultimatum actions
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that action is permanently discontinued. they are working on a new design. they were reworking the u300 but decided instead of reworking it they'd design a new 1
or at least that's what they told me
or at least that's what they told me
Thanks Shawn. I understood that they were discontinued, but emailed them and Marco told me that they were working on a Gen 2. I was hoping to get some feedback on the first gens to see what people thought of the quality, and what kind of accuracy owners were getting. Regards,
JS
JS
Was heavy bolt lift the only issue with it? Was it really bad enough to require a redesign and new model?
I've never heard of nor let alone seen a Tempest bolt handle break, you've seen this happen repeatedly or saw one break and called it a day? Just curious, not in 11 pages of the previous tempest thread or the new one have i seen nor heard mention of bolt handles breaking. I see plenty of trigger/hanger combination issues, which admittedly is pretty accurate as it can be a work in progress to get that combination set up properly.
CCI primers i can't attest to as i've only used FGMM, but depending on the hanger/trigger used and firing pin protrusion i'd call labeling the action incompatible with an entire brand of primer a drastic misnomer.
1 bolt handle snapped off at the threads
the cci issue is in writing from GAP, suggested fix was a stiffer spring that would make the bolt lift heavier
I've used nothing but CCI200 primers in my Tempest over the last 400rnds and have had absolutely ZERO failures.
I did have to red loctite my bolt handle onto the bolt even before my first firing, but haven't had any issues since
I did have to red loctite my bolt handle onto the bolt even before my first firing, but haven't had any issues since
Are bolt handles failing at an alarming rate? I mean is that common?
Wouldn't all this be fixed by changing the firing pin protrusion or was it not striking with enough force?
I think the claim was that all the kinks have been worked out with the Tempest. If it won't reliably light off CCI primers without swapping the spring for one that will induce a heavy bolt lift, I'd call that a "kink." Also, the way the bolt handle is threaded into the bolt body is obviously a weak point if one has broken. That should never happen. I'd also call that a "kink." I ran Tikka actions for years until I sheared off the pin that holds the bolt stop in. It's a weak point. Enough reason to go with a different action and not risk having an issue midway through a match. There are lots of options out there, why go with one that has issues?
To my knowledge the bolt handle isn't threaded to the bolt body, the knob is threaded to the bolt handle but not sure it's on the body. Though i could be wrong. I had no idea about the CCI issue. I would've attributed it to trigger hanger combination at first glance.
The Tempest bolt handle is threaded to the bolt body, then the knob threaded to the handle. I had to loctite both even before firing my first round. Not a big deal at all, and I preferred to do that before my action made it to the first match anyways.
I had never heard of the CCI primer issue until this thread. I exclusively use CCI and haven't had any issues...they all go bang.
I had never heard of the CCI primer issue until this thread. I exclusively use CCI and haven't had any issues...they all go bang.
It must be as people are attesting to it, i just never noticed i guess. Never heard of bolt handles snapping until now though. Pretty sure i've got one of the earlier actions, at least before they started nitriding them.
I've had maybe 3 misfires with FGMM but out of 600rds i just attributed it to the fact that i'd been using my hands to load primers though maybe i need to check firing pin protrusion and switch hangers.
No, its very rare. The Badger M2013/2008 have the exact same design for bolt handles and I've never heard of one breaking. That said, I know of exactly 2 bolt handles that have either come loose or broken (one broke, the other ones handle came loose, not the knob, the handle). Its a very rare issues, but can be easily solved if it ever happens to you with a drop of loctite of your choice.
Could have swore my tempest handle was part of the bolt body. I did have to locktite my knob on which is pretty typical. After 400rds i fired nothing but CCI primes. Every one went off.
Sure enough it is. I checked mine last night, it is very well blended cause i thought it was part of the bolt body as well.
I no longer have my tempest but damn that thing looked inconspicuous if there was a seam. I believe you all...
