USMC XM-3 clone
- Thread starter TurdFerguson
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Is that how toes are supposed to look?
Ha sorry for the delay. Ironically been on a hiatus fishing like Bill does over the summer but no...I am not Bill.
Info came from some very knowledgeable people in the circles that count.
Took a while but finally managed to get a correct SN range receiver. Barrel showed up too. Just need LRI to finish up the scope base project.
Salvaged this from M40rifle, @USMCSGT0331 gets credit as I’m 99% it was his original post just reposted. I added a few minor details pulled straight from the DARPA XM-3 report.
Action:
- Remington 700 short action
- Serial number prefix "S" period correct range S652xxxx-S655xxxx (courtesy of @shlouf )
- Clip slotted
- Iron Brigade Armory black Man-O-War finish
- Iron Brigade Armory Combat Bolt Handle, black anodized aluminum
Barrel:
- Hart 18.5"
- 1:10" right hand twist
- 6 grooves
- 416R stainless steel
- Titanium recoil lug, 1.070" barrel thread, .313" thickness
- Iron Brigade Armory black Man-O-War finish
Flash hider:
- Surefire CA762SSAL/RE
Stock:
- McMillan A1-3
- Molded-in Olive color
- Sniper Fill
- Remington 700 short action right hand inlet
- Badger M4 bottom metal inlet
- Barrel channel was custom, McMillan will do Hart XM3 profile channel
- 13" length of pull
- Adjustable spacer system (LOP) with 1/2" Decelerator pad
- Wichita sling swivels
- Eagle Industries Shooter's Rifle Stock Pack, olive drab, P/N 350001
- 1 front [email protected]", Wichita swivels front@ 4" and rear
Bottom metal:
- Badger Ordnance M4 Remington short action, steel
- T-30 Torx trigger guard bolts
- 68 inch lbs torque
- Iron Brigade Armory black Man-O-War finish
- P/N 306-02
Bipod:
- Harris S-BRM 6"-9" (notched legs), P/N SBRM
- KMW Pod-Loc, P/N 875
- Uncle Mike's Mil-Spec swivel, P/N 14023
Embedded Front Rail (EFR):
- Colorado Micro Precision made, Iron Brigade Armory branded UNS mount
- "Heavy" size
- Black anodized 6061 aluminum
- T-15 Torx screws
- P/N BCM22H
Trigger:
- Remington 700 modified by Iron Brigade Armory
- Set to 3.75 lbs, +/- .25 lbs
- 3.25 lbs minimum pull weight, 4 lbs maximum pull weight
Scope base:
- Iron Brigade Armory titanium picatinny rail (steel on prototype rifles)
- 20 MOA
- Lugged
- T-15 Torx screws
- Iron Brigade Armory black Man-O-War finish
Scope rings:
- NightForce X-Treme Duty Ultralite 30mm, .885" low, 4 screw, P/N A118 (issued rifles)
- NightForce X-Treme Duty steel 30mm, .885" low, 4 screw, P/N A117 (prototype rifles)
- T-15 Torx screws
- 15 inch lbs rings to rings torque
- 68 inch lbs rings to base torque
Scope:
- NightForce Milspec NXS 3.5-15x50, illuminated Mil-Dot reticle, .25 MOA CCW elevation adjustment, .25 MOA CCW windage adjustment, zero stop (issued rifles)
- NightForce Milspec NXS 3.5-15x50, illuminated Mil-Dot reticle, 1 MOA CCW elevation adjustment, .25 MOA CCW windage adjustment, zero stop (prototype rifles)
- Butler Creek Flip-Open scope caps, #18 ocular lens and #43 objective lens,
Sling:
- Turner Saddlery AWS olive drab (52")
Suppressor:
- Surefire FA762SS
Night vision:
- FLIR AN/PVS-22 UNS
Case: pelican iM3200 storm
-Craftsman 65284 12" utility case
-38" dewey rod
-Dewey bore guide
-Seekonk 68inlb torque wrench
-9" 5/32" Allen T-tool
-SK tools T handle T-30
-Klienendorst bolt disassembly tool
-Kobalt 1/2" adapter
-3 bore brushes
Action:
- Remington 700 short action
- Serial number prefix "S" period correct range S652xxxx-S655xxxx (courtesy of @shlouf )
- Clip slotted
- Iron Brigade Armory black Man-O-War finish
- Iron Brigade Armory Combat Bolt Handle, black anodized aluminum
Barrel:
- Hart 18.5"
- 1:10" right hand twist
- 6 grooves
- 416R stainless steel
- Titanium recoil lug, 1.070" barrel thread, .313" thickness
- Iron Brigade Armory black Man-O-War finish
Flash hider:
- Surefire CA762SSAL/RE
Stock:
- McMillan A1-3
- Molded-in Olive color
- Sniper Fill
- Remington 700 short action right hand inlet
- Badger M4 bottom metal inlet
- Barrel channel was custom, McMillan will do Hart XM3 profile channel
- 13" length of pull
- Adjustable spacer system (LOP) with 1/2" Decelerator pad
- Wichita sling swivels
- Eagle Industries Shooter's Rifle Stock Pack, olive drab, P/N 350001
- 1 front [email protected]", Wichita swivels front@ 4" and rear
Bottom metal:
- Badger Ordnance M4 Remington short action, steel
- T-30 Torx trigger guard bolts
- 68 inch lbs torque
- Iron Brigade Armory black Man-O-War finish
- P/N 306-02
Bipod:
- Harris S-BRM 6"-9" (notched legs), P/N SBRM
- KMW Pod-Loc, P/N 875
- Uncle Mike's Mil-Spec swivel, P/N 14023
Embedded Front Rail (EFR):
- Colorado Micro Precision made, Iron Brigade Armory branded UNS mount
- "Heavy" size
- Black anodized 6061 aluminum
- T-15 Torx screws
- P/N BCM22H
Trigger:
- Remington 700 modified by Iron Brigade Armory
- Set to 3.75 lbs, +/- .25 lbs
- 3.25 lbs minimum pull weight, 4 lbs maximum pull weight
Scope base:
- Iron Brigade Armory titanium picatinny rail (steel on prototype rifles)
- 20 MOA
- Lugged
- T-15 Torx screws
- Iron Brigade Armory black Man-O-War finish
Scope rings:
- NightForce X-Treme Duty Ultralite 30mm, .885" low, 4 screw, P/N A118 (issued rifles)
- NightForce X-Treme Duty steel 30mm, .885" low, 4 screw, P/N A117 (prototype rifles)
- T-15 Torx screws
- 15 inch lbs rings to rings torque
- 68 inch lbs rings to base torque
Scope:
- NightForce Milspec NXS 3.5-15x50, illuminated Mil-Dot reticle, .25 MOA CCW elevation adjustment, .25 MOA CCW windage adjustment, zero stop (issued rifles)
- NightForce Milspec NXS 3.5-15x50, illuminated Mil-Dot reticle, 1 MOA CCW elevation adjustment, .25 MOA CCW windage adjustment, zero stop (prototype rifles)
- Butler Creek Flip-Open scope caps, #18 ocular lens and #43 objective lens,
Sling:
- Turner Saddlery AWS olive drab (52")
Suppressor:
- Surefire FA762SS
Night vision:
- FLIR AN/PVS-22 UNS
Case: pelican iM3200 storm
-Craftsman 65284 12" utility case
-38" dewey rod
-Dewey bore guide
-Seekonk 68inlb torque wrench
-9" 5/32" Allen T-tool
-SK tools T handle T-30
-Klienendorst bolt disassembly tool
-Kobalt 1/2" adapter
-3 bore brushes
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Good info.
I’d add in the on the SN, the period correct range being S652xxxx-S655xxxx
I’d add in the on the SN, the period correct range being S652xxxx-S655xxxx
Stock showed up this week. Getting closer... Need to order the sling and stock pack and pick up a trigger.
Got a stupid good deal on the F1 nxs mildot for $900 on GB.
Got a stupid good deal on the F1 nxs mildot for $900 on GB.
That’s a hell of a deal for the F1. I paid 1600 for mine with rings. Granted mil/mil but still.
Anyone ordered one of the IBA XM3 scope bases from PTG?
I’m trying to hold out for LRIs offering, but after picking up a PVS-22 this week, I’m ready to get these parts sent off.
PTG did say for an extra $20 they would engrave the S/N of the receiver on the left side like the real XM-3s have.
I’m trying to hold out for LRIs offering, but after picking up a PVS-22 this week, I’m ready to get these parts sent off.
PTG did say for an extra $20 they would engrave the S/N of the receiver on the left side like the real XM-3s have.
Not yet but i've been keeping up with them doing all these clone parts - the dudes are super committed to getting things correct and supporting the clone community.
Can't wait for some of the other projects they have coming out
Read the site rules on selling and especially where to do it. Do this again and you will be banned.
Gunbroker seems to be $5k+ from I’ve seen. Idk if any of them actually sold for that.
There’s one currently on auction at the cmp for those of you with the deep pockets
Real xm3 are not engraved with markings on the scope base on either side. None of the 25 issued rifles on CMP that sold are engraved.
Yeah I noticed that after taking a closer look at all the photos of the cmp guns. I had assumed the issued guns were from looking at the photos in this thread https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/xm-3-on-cmp-what’s-the-story-behind-these.7114226/
I guess just the shop and civilian versions were marked that way. I like the idea of more serialized parts though so I had it done for mine.
I guess just the shop and civilian versions were marked that way. I like the idea of more serialized parts though so I had it done for mine.
Unfortunately, PTG is another one of those dealers who have absolutely no idea how the original rifles were made and marked. Just because they offer a something as a service, it doesn't mean that was an actual characteristic on a real military rifle.
There's nothing wrong with you building your rifle the way you want, just as long as people are aware that's not a characteristic on the issued USMC rifles. I went back and looked at my posts in that thread, and realized that I didn't specifically say that the markings on the test rifle's scope base are unique to that test rifle. I just updated that post so people are aware that the markings on the scope base were not on the issued USMC XM3's.
OK, which one of you outbid me by $2 to steal this from me?! 
Well, as things always go, just when I’d decided I really didn’t need and XM-3 and started selling off parts, I found an IBA barreled action that was only 31 numbers away from a known XM3 and had the correct barrel. Then I found what is supposed to be a contract overrun A1-3 stock, and here we are.
Still need to find an EFR (there’s one on GB but I’d really like a CMP marked one…) and a rail (I struggle to give PTG any $ at all anymore). And shoutout to @kft101 for taking pity on me and helping with a CA762SSAL/RE.
And the closest serial number rifle:
Still need to find an EFR (there’s one on GB but I’d really like a CMP marked one…) and a rail (I struggle to give PTG any $ at all anymore). And shoutout to @kft101 for taking pity on me and helping with a CA762SSAL/RE.
And the closest serial number rifle:
Attachments
Pacific tool and gauge my dude.
V2 DARPA XM-3 EFR UNS Mount - (IBA)-3F30A93D
www.pacifictoolandgauge.com
Yeah, that’s my last resort. Dave is too shady for my liking, between false marketing of RR prefix 700 actions as “M40 surplus” to bad customer service and false “in stock” status, I’ll stay away unless I absolutely have to.Pacific tool and gauge my dude.
V2 DARPA XM-3 EFR UNS Mount - (IBA)-3F30A93D
www.pacifictoolandgauge.com
LRI was selling EFR clones. They are bare though, you'd have to get it engraved somewhere. If you can't get a exact one (not from ptg) than that would be your best bet
PTG is an absolute joke. Let alone the quality of the product they make is garbage.
All true. Call me a snob but I can’t disgrace an IBA build with PTG markings on the UNS. @FUNCTIONAL I emailed Chad a week or so ago to see if they were doing another run, but I’m sure he’s busy as I haven’t heard back yet. BG defense also makes a sanitized copy, as did an unknown contractor for McMillan (that they sold with some recent XM3 stocks). I’d guess SOL Strategic but no confirmation of that.
Do you think IBA builds them? No they send them to Hart for barrel work and from what I understand when they did my build PTG does the clip slot oh and like mine they add a US engraving I never asked for. Still at LRI waiting for mine to be fixed
Sorry not upset with you. Just unless it’s an original XM3 I would not care. IBA is a joke
Hmm.... I think you dudes are on a different level of 'Tism than me. Which I tip my hat to. I'm happy if it looks the part. I've had no issue with PTG myself but I don't want to poo hoo the people that HAVE had bad experiences. To me, if my only option is a clone, i'll probably do it, provided that it's dimensionally the same as the original. If the difference is having my XM3 or not because i'm looking for some unicorn part that went out of production 20 years ago, i'll take my XM3. I haven't looked recently but back when I built my XM3, the chances of finding an OG IBA UNS mount was less likely than finding a coherent thought pattern at a Democrat rally. Having said that though.... you see those "clone" MIRS rails? No thanks....
I have a LRI xm3 mount unused right now. If he doesn't get back to you shoot me a PM. I was going to use it in another build (non clone) but a Badger would work just as well if I had to.
Oh yeah, we’ve chatted on it. At least old IBA just sent to Hart and PTG wasn’t involved at all.
Will let you know, appreciate it.
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