Rifle Scopes Vortex, Millett, or Nikon

[Gasitman]

I want to get a nice long range scope for my M1A, I have narrowed it down to the Millett LRS 6-24, the Vortex Viper 6-20, and the Nikon monarch 5-20 or 6-24. Anyone have good or bad experience with these? I am not looking for my brothers uncles cousin read on a bathroom wall...... kind of stuff. I want to know if you have one, likes and dislikes.

 

[fdkay]

Re: Vortex, Millett, or Nikon

It is an M1A, 20x or 24x is real overkill.
Of those listed the Vortex or Nikon would get the nod over the Millet, though all are very decent scopes.
The Nikon is limited in adjustment range, the Millet has plenty.

You would be better served with a 3-12, 3-15, 4-16 or similar range.

 

[shankster..]

Re: Vortex, Millett, or Nikon

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fdkay</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It is an M1A, <span style="font-weight: bold">20x or 24x is real overkill.</span>
Of those listed the Vortex or Nikon would get the nod over the Millet, though all are very decent scopes.
The Nikon is limited in adjustment range, the Millet has plenty.

You would be better served with a 3-12, 3-15, 4-16 or similar range. </div></div>

Good advice. I have a NF 5.5-22 on a .308 bolt gun and never use the higher powers for shooting.

 

[Graham]

Re: Vortex, Millett, or Nikon

A high magnification scope built down to a price is a tourist trap.

 

[wmr264]

Re: Vortex, Millett, or Nikon

I bought a millet dms for my xcr when I tightend the A.R.M.s rings down to specs it dented the tube and let moisture in .So I
sent it back to millet two weeks later here comes my scope back from Bushnell In the same condition that I sent it to them in with a 10.00 shipping bill. So I called they said thats impact damage and not covered.I've Never had this problem with any other scope.Maybe there trs scopes a better.Thats what I get for being cheap.

Quote from brut4c "buy once cry once"

 

[brand692]

Re: Vortex, Millett, or Nikon

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Graham</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A high magnification scope built down to a price is a tourist trap. </div></div>

Could not have been said better.

 

[doubs43]

Re: Vortex, Millett, or Nikon

Today I shot test groups with my .308 Remington 700 SPS-V rifle. Stocked in a B&C Medalist Tactical/Varmint stock, I put a 20 MOA base on it and a new Vortex Viper 6.5~20x50 scope on it with fine crosshairs and target dot.

Sticking strictly with the scope, it is optically clear at all power settings. The power ring and side focus have just the right amount of tension when turning them. While I didn't do a box test, the elevation and windage tracking was positive and the clicks on both knobs precise and audible.

A friend looked through the scope at my white paper targets posted at 102 yards and said "It's almost too bright!" It is, indeed, very bright.

I paid $280 total for the scope and would buy another if I had the money. The target dot and V-Plex reticles are being discontinued and they are being sold at an excellent price. The Viper is guaranteed for life. I can't comment on the Nikon or Millett scopes but I'm really impressed by this Viper.

 

[dimar1492]

Re: Vortex, Millett, or Nikon

I've had bad experiences with millet. Buddy of mine has an LRS on top of a Rock River Varmint AR and something went wrong with the internals because it just stopped holding zero after about 50 rounds. Checked the rings and base, everything was solid. When first mounted he was getting 1/2 MOA groups at 100yds and when the scope started acting up he was having a hard time getting his shots to show up on a 2foot by 3foot target, even had to back it up to 50yds just to see where he was hitting. And to think that the recoil of a .223 could break such a robust scope. Dont personally own a Vortex viper but i have heard good things about them. Thats where i would put my money if i had to choose between those 3.

 

[Gasitman]

Re: Vortex, Millett, or Nikon

Where is the vortex with the bdc reticule? Got a link to one of those? I have posted this on a few different forums, and the way it sounds on here is the same over there, Vortex as being top choice, Nikon second and stay away from Millett.

 

[NY700]

Re: Vortex, Millett, or Nikon

Nikon for the price is a rather solid scope. I had the 6-24 monarch. you had three turrets to choose from, it was repeatable and for the price the glass was solid. Nikon has been producing top quality optics for a long long time. Is it as rugged as some no. i snapped off the windage adjustment when my rig took a rough fall and on the way down it hit the windage turret and snapped it right off. Took abotu 2 weeks but I had a brand new scope n box on my door step no questions asked. I finally sold mine after putting enough money aside for a nightforce.

 

[ejd049]

Re: Vortex, Millett, or Nikon

I have a Vortex Viper 6-20 and a Sightron SIII 6-24. They are very solid. Shoot Scott at liberty optics a PM here. He will hook you up.

 

[Strangedays]

Re: Vortex, Millett, or Nikon

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ejd049</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have a Vortex Viper 6-20 and a Sightron SIII 6-24. They are very solid. Shoot Scott at liberty optics a PM here. He will hook you up. </div></div>
I like the Sightron scopes and yes I even own a Millet DMS which has worked fine for me. The thing with scopes is like everything else you get what you pay for. If you purchase a lower end scope just don't expect it to be as great as the $1000+ scopes. With scopes it is more than just a name you are buying. JMHO

 

[mouse07410]

Re: Vortex, Millett, or Nikon

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Where is the vortex with the bdc reticule?</div></div>
To me BDC spells "trouble", because it's computed for <span style="text-decoration: underline">one</span> particular round. Once you get a different ammo - with different bullet, or amount of charge, or whatever - that nice BDC has to be re-computed to something like "mark 2 is 176m, mark 4 is 343m" and so on.

One could say "but in the military they're issued one type of round, so BDC is fine". Well, even that isn't quite true: e.g. for the "main" round it has been (and still is) 55gr FMJ. Then 62gr entered the fray. Then 69gr... Then 79gr... With those changes all the convenience that BDC offers disappears rather fast (IMHO).

What I'm trying to say - it seems that a MilDot (with mil/mil adjustments) reticle would be far more useful. As for ACOG and such - the reticle part is great, the BDC marks on the vertical stem - (IMHO) not so cool (but then it's unlikely to be used beyond 300m-400m anyway).

 

[doubs43]

Re: Vortex, Millett, or Nikon

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gasitman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Where is the vortex with the bdc reticule? Got a link to one of those? </div></div>

My sincere apologies. It's the target dot and V-Plex reticles that are being discontinued. The mil-dot and Dead-Hold BDC reticles are being kept. Sorry for the misinformation.

 

[Gasitman]

Re: Vortex, Millett, or Nikon

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: doubs43</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gasitman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Where is the vortex with the bdc reticule? Got a link to one of those? </div></div>

My sincere apologies. It's the target dot and V-Plex reticles that are being discontinued. The mil-dot and Dead-Hold BDC reticles are being kept. Sorry for the misinformation. </div></div>

No problem, I thought I was missing something. I definitely am down to the Nikon and the vortex, I am just not sure if I should get the 44 or 50mm for the M1A, The scope is already high enough, but I plan on getting a cheek riser anyways.

 

[daveog]

Re: Vortex, Millett, or Nikon

Vortex all the way. You can't beat them for the money and their CS is fantastic.

 

[Opticsspecialist]

Re: Vortex, Millett, or Nikon

i like vortex or nikon, both make very nice scopes

 

[elkstalker338]

Re: Vortex, Millett, or Nikon

Its not only change of ammo that makes bdc complicated, also change of elevation, temp, baro pressure, humidity will all change the impact of a fired round. There are so many varibles I dont know why anyone that is serious about long range would choose anything except mil/mil or moa/moa, that also goes the same with custom knobs calibrated with yardage markers on them, but I guess if your ALWAYS shooting the exact same conditions then the BDC or custom turrents are fine,I want to load for accuracy of my rifle instead of trying to match ballistics of some BDC reticle or turrent

 

[mouse07410]

Re: Vortex, Millett, or Nikon

Duane, I'm with you!

 

[Good]

Re: Vortex, Millett, or Nikon

Trijicon supposedly has a nice new scope in this power level and price range.