Watch how you store it!

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    The above is a YouTube video showing a real-time response by Vandergrift, PA firefighters to a house where a $hitload of live ammo was being stored in the attic. Hence, the crackling sounds. Be very careful how you store your ammo in your house.

    Being retired EMS, I often look at these YT videos of firefighter responses just to see how the different crews respond. . Some of the lessons learned (for homeowners) include:

    1) Always know the location of the closest Fire Hydrant to your house and tell the dispatcher that so the crew doesn't have to waste time looking for it. Some crews may not have "auto-location" systems or remember all of the locations.

    2) Don't park in the street, if at all possible. The apparatus may not be able to get through. Especially in urban or city areas. Where I lived in the PRNJ, it was against township ordinances to park in the street, in front of my townhouse, unless it was a quick delivery or something. The streets were more narrow anyway. Even a type 3 ambulance could not get by, let alone a std. fire engine, if blocked by a parked car.

    3) If you park in the driveway outside the garage, park a few feet away from the door, so whatever's burning inside doesn't catch the car on fire. Lots of things can fall from the roof and catch the car. Also, it gives the crew some room to work in re: sawing the door down.

    4) Don't expect them to get water on your burning house for at least 10-15 minutes after they arrive. It takes that long to tap the hydrant, set the main 4" line from the hydrant to the pumping engine intake and then to charge all the outgoing lines. Even longer if they don't know where the hydrant is and they have to look for one (see #1 above).

    5) Stay out of the A.O. I know you want to save your house, but understand... that's not likely to happen anyway by the time the apparatus arrives and they get water on it. Let them do their jobs as best they can. Expect to have holes cut in your roof or your garage door for venting purposes. And be sure your homeowners insurance is paid up! And if there are electricity lines nearby, it's even worse as it may take at least 1/2hr or more for the power co. to cut power. If a line burns down. it's on!

    6) If you live in the "sticks" where there isn't a hydrant network, consider digging a duck pond that will serve as a water source for the apparatus, if you have the space for it. Gators...Shmators! Your house is more important! If not, then they'll have to bring in "tankers" with water to feed the engines. Advise the dispatcher accordingly.

    I'm sure you folks know most of this already. But these are some of the things I see as I watch these videos Searching for the hydrant is the biggest one. Know where yours is and be able to tell them.

    Be safe folks!
     
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    The fist responders have watched too much TV. The bullets will "fly" less than 5', but on TV it shoots out of the fire and kills people.

    Mine is in ammo cans in a concrete basement, covered in drywall.
    I’ve never thrown pistol or rifle ammo in a fire personally. But my understanding is that the projectiles don’t really go anywhere, though the cases could get rowdy.
     
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    The fist responders have watched too much TV. The bullets will "fly" less than 5', but on TV it shoots out of the fire and kills people.

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    …though the cases could get rowdy.

    Sure, but turnout gear’ll stop brass like it’s nothing. I think it was Federal that did a pretty informative video on ammunition fires some time ago. They’re generally a non-event for first responders in proper PPE.
     
    I’ve never thrown pistol or rifle ammo in a fire personally. But my understanding is that the projectiles don’t really go anywhere, though the cases could get rowdy.
    I once threw a belt of 7.62 blanks into a fire. They went boom, but didn't really go anywhere.

    Although, the one that waited about a 1/2 hour to go off right at my feet was a helluva surprise!! :ROFLMAO:
     
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    Makes me think about a time I was helping an uncle clean out a shed in his backyard.

    We were just sweeping stuff up and throwing it in a fire. Boxes full of trash, old scrap lumber. Mostly junk left behind by the previous owners.

    Unbeknownst to us, there was a brick of 22lr in a box we tossed on the fire. It was like you lit a string of blackcats. Fun times.
     
    I love the fire service. But, at the same time.....I REALLY dislike those stupid fuckers too!! I had been trying for over a year and a half to get hired on to a FD. Didn't get so much as a single call back. :mad: EMT ✔️ Fire 1 ✔️Fire 2✔️Hazmat Awr ✔️Hazmat Ops ✔️Wildland red card ✔️ Veteran bonus points ✔️ 2.5 years volunteer time ✔️

    Perhaps i should've played their bullshit woke game against them and put pronouns and gender dysphoria in my application. Probably would've been picked up in no time. 🖕 😏🖕
     
    I love the fire service. But, at the same time.....I REALLY dislike those stupid fuckers too!! I had been trying for over a year and a half to get hired on to a FD. Didn't get so much as a single call back. :mad: EMT ✔️ Fire 1 ✔️Fire 2✔️Hazmat Awr ✔️Hazmat Ops ✔️Wildland red card ✔️ Veteran bonus points ✔️ 2.5 years volunteer time ✔️

    Perhaps i should've played their bullshit woke game against them and put pronouns and gender dysphoria in my application. Probably would've been picked up in no time. 🖕 😏🖕

    How long ago did you try? I was involved in the late 80's - early 90's. And no such wokeism existed. Certainly not in the FDs. And LGBTQ personnel were still "closeted" at the time. I recall a few of the EMTs that were LGBTQ, even 1-2 LE. But narry a firefighter. That was all "macho."
     
    I love the fire service. But, at the same time.....I REALLY dislike those stupid fuckers too!! I had been trying for over a year and a half to get hired on to a FD. Didn't get so much as a single call back. :mad: EMT ✔️ Fire 1 ✔️Fire 2✔️Hazmat Awr ✔️Hazmat Ops ✔️Wildland red card ✔️ Veteran bonus points ✔️ 2.5 years volunteer time ✔️

    Perhaps i should've played their bullshit woke game against them and put pronouns and gender dysphoria in my application. Probably would've been picked up in no time. 🖕 😏🖕
    Come join our VFD
    We'll take ya!
    Pay sucks but you will get to fight fire, respond to MVA scenes and help with search an rescue if that's the itch you're looking to scratch.

    We got a great bunch of guys, no bullshit allowed, woke or otherwise

    Seriously, look into joining a VFD
     
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    How long ago did you try? I was involved in the late 80's - early 90's. And no such wokeism existed. Certainly not in the FDs. And LGBTQ personnel were still "closeted" at the time. I recall a few of the EMTs that were LGBTQ, even 1-2 LE. But narry a firefighter. That was all "macho."
    I started pursuing the FD in 2022 when I got honorably separated from the military(34 y/o at the time). I got all of my fire certifications and fire academy done while I was still active duty. I applied from June 2022 till early 2024. I got so damn fed up with repeated Public Safety testing fees and repeated applications that I folded my cards and called it quits. I couldn't push needles, determine EKGs and ride in the back of the box as a medic. So, that was a potential limiting factor. But, I reached my wits end after so many applications and a few hundred dollars spent on testing fees with no interviews that I had to say "FUCK YOU FIRE DEPARTMENT!" and go my way. It left a real bitter taste.
     
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