Well, Black Rifle Coffee, that was stupid, wasn't it?... "We do not support Kyle Rittenhouse or his legal defense efforts".

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    @TacticalDillhole serious question, how do you prepare your BRCoffee and what have you compared it to? Which one is your favorite and can you explain what makes it the best out there to you?
    Well I can’t really. I’m not an aficionado or a pro coffee drinker or brewer. For me it just has the best overall taste for me. It’s not acidic and doesn’t tear my gut up. I’ve drank some shit coffee in my day and they if I can make it with the shit water we have in the airplanes and it tastes good I’m good with it. Even their instant one is pretty decent. I am by no means stating a fact but my opinion. Your mileage may vary.
     

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    This is a non issue to me.

    My Army roommate who is now a retired Green Beret Colonel says the guys who run BRC are the real deal.

    I watched Evan Hafer’s explanation and I am good with it.

    Kyle R. Got lucky that night. Very lucky. Hopefully he’ll get off and then can join the military where he will more than likely do well. In the meantime, he needs to keep his head down and his mouth shut.
     
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    Kyle R. Got lucky that night. Very lucky. Hopefully he’ll get off and then can join the military where he will more than likely do well. In the meantime, he needs to keep his head down and his mouth shut.
    This isn’t wrong and it certainly looks like he is doing just that. It’s just too bad that he wasn’t of a currently preferred heritage and doing fentinyl. Then he would be a National hero..., but I digress.
     

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    I tried coffee way back when I was in my late teens and early twenties. Did not like it and never have drank it. I like the smell of it in the morning with bacon, sausage and eggs cooking. But since the kids have moved out the wife is the only one that will drink it. So I make a pot for the wife every morning while cooking breakfast
    You make coffee and breakfast every morning for your wife?
     

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    I am up at 4:30 every morning. If you come by I will make some for you. Country ham, eggs, sausage, bacon and toast. Coffee is Folgers.

    Edit: It's made in a cast iron skillet. None of that nonstick shit.
    I like a good cup of folgers..Most BRCC drinkers wouldnt know if it was substituded with chickory.
     
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    This is a non issue to me.

    My Army roommate who is now a retired Green Beret Colonel says the guys who run BRC are the real deal.

    I watched Evan Hafer’s explanation and I am good with it.

    Kyle R. Got lucky that night. Very lucky. Hopefully he’ll get off and then can join the military where he will more than likely do well. In the meantime, he needs to keep his head down and his mouth shut.

    Real deal in what fashion? Served honorably? Badass hombres? What would that have to do with their politics?
     

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  • Sounds and looks good on paper, but you have to ask this.
    How much about BRCC is real?

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    Sandy Garner is the VP of People and Culture at Black Rifle Coffee Company. She is credentialed in several fields of human resources and has over 20 years of experience advising teams and executing HR projects and initiatives.


    A veteran in the human resources profession, Sandy joined BRCC from SanMar, headquartered in Seattle, WA, where she served as Director or Human Resources. Sandy has a Bachelor of Science degree in Political Science and Organizational Psychology from Texas State University. She has also attended Gonzaga Law School in Spokane, WA as well as Texas Woman’s University for an MBA in Business Analytics. Sandy is a member and chairperson of the Greater Seattle Human Resources Association, Austin Society of Human Resources, and has presented at World of Work, and serves as a board member of the Disability Management Employer Coalition. Sandy takes her CAF coffee with cream and sugar, and her hobbies include volunteering in the community, spending time with her friends and family, and traveling. She has visited 24 countries and 39 states — and even got married in a castle in Scotland!


    I don't see "eating fruits and vegetables, managing cholesterol levels, and exercising" on that list of all of her accomplishments...
     

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    Real deal in what fashion? Served honorably? Badass hombres? What would that have to do with their politics?

    Honorable men. That don’t make money off chasing ambulances. Or celebrating social disorder. Or, in his words, “be a tragedy merchant..” Or give in to the latest rumor mill.

    You can check out his comments on Dana’s show. When this first blew up, I watched Hafer’s message. Rather than take anyone’s word for it. I don’t know why I am the first to link to Hafer defending his company and doing it well. This interview is well worth everyone’s time to understand that Hafer is real.

     

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    BCRC can kiss my ass, never getting a dime, and everytime i see a channel with these douhes i give a piece of my mind whether they give a crap or not
     
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    The company should have said "we don't control who wears our merchandise" or nothing at all. Because what happened is folks started digging into who they were donating to and it does not match what they claim to represent. A company with "black rifle" in/on all their products that donates to gun grabbers and fuck bags set on destroying our country can go fuck themselves. Call it "Cancel Culture" if you want, but you're wrong. Folks been protesting with their money a lot longer than the "woke" crowd stared stealing and bastardizing the language 1880 or so. In adult language is called a "boycott"
     

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  • If Kyle Ridderhouse has showed us anything, it is one thing to own an AR-15. It is quite another to use one to defend yourself. A lot of fudd gun owners just don't cotton to that idea......

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    Despite the left lighting our cities on fire 🔥 for Spring and Summer last year, most of us sat around with our hands in our pockets and did nothing.

    What did BRCC or other gun companies do, while their leftist counterparts encouraged and gave money to these bloodthirsty mobs......?

    Had Kyle just been walking by, and used a six shooter for self defense against a murderous arsonist leftist mob, more gun owners would rise to his defense. Better yet a double barreled shot gun ....🙄

    There is absolutely no evidence that he went there with bad intent that I have seen. On the contrary, it appears he went to render aid and protect property. I have seen no evidence whatsoever that he did anything but act in self defense, with uncanny restraint, while being chased by this armed angry mob, verbally saying they were going to kill him.

    Make no mistake, this case will become one of the pivotal self defense cases of our time. One that is long overdue. The anti-2A crowd wants this to be about the AR-15 ( anti-2A code, for semi-auto firearm rifle or handgun) if Kyle loses this case (based on the facts as we know them now) our right to self defense, and weapon choice for said defense, will take a MAJOR hit.

    We are at political war on 2A. The left is openly supporting the opposition. Who is supporting us? The whole “cancel culture” trope is naïve and childlike. Any commander knows that if you fight the enemy too long, they adapt to your tactics. Will WE adapt? This political “war” is getting dirtier by the day and we think we are going to play nice, keep our hands clean, and not get dirty with some high minded “principles”. Judas priest......

    You are politically with us or against us! Let that be our battle cry!
     
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    BCRC can kiss my ass, never getting a dime, and everytime i see a channel with these douhes i give a piece of my mind whether they give a crap or

    Yeah they look like a bunch of gun grabbing douchebags to me. Here we can see them playing with a water gun. Good thing we have the internet where we can fact check things.


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    The company should have said "we don't control who wears our merchandise" or nothing at all. Because what happened is folks started digging into who they were donating to and it does not match what they claim to represent. A company with "black rifle" in/on all their products that donates to gun grabbers and fuck bags set on destroying our country can go fuck themselves. Call it "Cancel Culture" if you want, but you're wrong. Folks been protesting with their money a lot longer than the "woke" crowd stared stealing and bastardizing the language 1880 or so. In adult language is called a "boycott"

    Hafer said just that, bro. Did you listen to his interview? Or did you just read a bunch of internet memes? Go back and actually listen to him on Dana’s show Dana is the real deal as well. Do these guys look like a bunch of gun grabbers? Dude, you fell for a bunch of propaganda.

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    I imagine that within another ten years the 2a community will have reached a point where it is totally pure, without any dissent or apostasy. I am sure that all two hundred of you left will feel very comfortable there.
     

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    The company should have said "we don't control who wears our merchandise" or nothing at all. Because what happened is folks started digging into who they were donating to and it does not match what they claim to represent. A company with "black rifle" in/on all their products that donates to gun grabbers and fuck bags set on destroying our country can go fuck themselves. Call it "Cancel Culture" if you want, but you're wrong. Folks been protesting with their money a lot longer than the "woke" crowd stared stealing and bastardizing the language 1880 or so. In adult language is called a "boycott"
    I’ll just interject this, BRCC did not donate to Tulsi Gabbard. Evan Hafer made an individual donation because he, allegedly, lost a bet. Now, while she is definitely no friend to the 2A, she is very pro veteran and that is something that can’t be overlooked. So while maybe giving money to a gun grabber isnt fully consistent to what the company and the individual preaches, being pro veteran is so there is that. Your line in the sand may vary. I’d be willing to bet that when the gun grabbers really start grabbing, BRCC will be very active in the fight against it. Just my opinion. I standby to be proven wrong. Yeah the bro vet culture is a bit played out, but in the few interactions I’ve personally had with Evan Hafer and Logan Stark while the company was SLC based, they are nothing but genuine in their belief in freedom and all things USA. The Kyle Rittenhouse thing is so gay. Everyone here actually forgot what the whole thing was about. It was about a discount code being incorrectly placed in a story by blaze TV about rittenhouse.
     
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    I remember early in the Rittenhouse saga when I pointed out to you all that Lin Wood may not be the most trustworthy guy in the world. Boy that went over like a ton of bricks.
     

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    What are we whining about this time?

    The BRCC thing was over and done with months ago. It is universally accepted that:

    - They/the CEO or whatever made political donations and when confronted about it he double/tripled/quadrupled down on it on social media and made everything 10x worse and got caught lying multiple times

    - It all started when they decided to overtly take a stance on an issue that didn't even exist with Kyle's short simply being a BRCC shirt. Yet somehow felt the need to go full court press on 'we dont sponsor him' 'we dont agree with whatever happened' type of shit that NOONE had asked before they wanted to 'get ahead of it' for some strange reason. it was the equivalent of your parents coming home and you screaming 'I didn't break anything while you were gone'.

    - The strange reason ended up being that they took heavy investment (probably for all of their vast over-expansion) from Texas based, very liberal investment groups who basically grabbed them by the balls and said 'bark!'.

    - Their coffee has been, and will continue to be bulk bought garbage level coffee that is 80% marketing and hype

    - Go buy way better coffee like so many of us here did from my coffee thread around the same time, at Whats The Buzz Coffee.
     

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    Hafer said just that, bro. Did you listen to his interview? Or did you just read a bunch of internet memes? Go back and actually listen to him on Dana’s show Dana is the real deal as well. Do these guys look like a bunch of gun grabbers? Dude, you fell for a bunch of propaganda.

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    Hi Jimmy, maybe you should fact check your bullshit.
    Back when this first happened I did so tell me this.
    Why hire a leftist POS to run point in HR?
    Why donate money to anti-gun folks and the left?
     

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    What are we whining about this time?

    The BRCC thing was over and done with months ago. It is universally accepted that:

    - They/the CEO or whatever made political donations and when confronted about it he double/tripled/quadrupled down on it on social media and made everything 10x worse and got caught lying multiple times

    - It all started when they decided to overtly take a stance on an issue that didn't even exist with Kyle's short simply being a BRCC shirt. Yet somehow felt the need to go full court press on 'we dont sponsor him' 'we dont agree with whatever happened' type of shit that NOONE had asked before they wanted to 'get ahead of it' for some strange reason. it was the equivalent of your parents coming home and you screaming 'I didn't break anything while you were gone'.

    - The strange reason ended up being that they took heavy investment (probably for all of their vast over-expansion) from Texas based, very liberal investment groups who basically grabbed them by the balls and said 'bark!'.

    - Their coffee has been, and will continue to be bulk bought garbage level coffee that is 80% marketing and hype

    - Go buy way better coffee like so many of us here did from my coffee thread around the same time, at Whats The Buzz Coffee.
    Quit wasting time in this thread and get working on your weekly drill thread so we can accomplish something useful.
     
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    Hi Jimmy, maybe you should fact check your bullshit.
    Back when this first happened I did so tell me this.
    Why hire a leftist POS to run point in HR?
    Why donate money to anti-gun folks and the left?

    Funny how there are always a few Blue Falcons on every site putting fire on the reciprocal coordinates and covering themselves in glory afterwards.

    Put a three round burst in a buddy's face and claim you shot the enemy.

    We always weeded them out before deployment. These were the guys who could not get along with anyone, who could not see the mission came first, and who had the lightest packs and the most pogie bait.

    Behind the scenes and keyboards, they had all the answers. They never once planned or executed an operation but always had criticisms for how things were done. Put them in front of the room with a marker and an empty whiteboard and ten minutes later the board was as empty as them.

    That's how you fine gentlemen come across. Poison.

    All you are doing is pouring the poisoned kool-aid into the water and then claiming the water was bad in the first place.

    Hafer and his crew shit bricks you can't lift with both hands. Their balls leave furrows that would make an Iowa farmer proud. Their easiest day would make you cry like a baby.

    Every fucking one of them is a vet, many with horrible wounds who served in honorably. And you come on here in a public forum and besmirch him and his crew.

    Have you ever held a man who is bleeding out? Found something in your mouth after a blast and realized it was human flesh? Stood in the TOC as the unit you sent out is picked apart and QRF is not going to make it? Watched the evac come in with the blood pouring out onto the skids? Seen a Chinook with wall to wall body bags?

    You guys are immature useless sacks of shit. Carrying the other side's shit I might add because you have nothing of your own to carry of any substance.
     

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    Funny how there are always a few Blue Falcons on every site putting fire on the reciprocal coordinates and covering themselves in glory afterwards.

    Put a three round burst in a buddy's face and claim you shot the enemy.

    We always weeded them out before deployment. These were the guys who could not get along with anyone, who could not see the mission came first, and who had the lightest packs and the most pogie bait.

    Behind the scenes and keyboards, they had all the answers. They never once planned or executed an operation but always had criticisms for how things were done. Put them in front of the room with a marker and an empty whiteboard and ten minutes later the board was as empty as them.

    That's how you fine gentlemen come across. Poison.

    All you are doing is pouring the poisoned kool-aid into the water and then claiming the water was bad in the first place.

    Hafer and his crew shit bricks you can't lift with both hands. Their balls leave furrows that would make an Iowa farmer proud. Their easiest day would make you cry like a baby.

    Every fucking one of them is a vet, many with horrible wounds who served in honorably. And you come on here in a public forum and besmirch him and his crew.

    Have you ever held a man who is bleeding out? Found something in your mouth after a blast and realized it was human flesh? Stood in the TOC as the unit you sent out is picked apart and QRF is not going to make it? Watched the evac come in with the blood pouring out onto the skids? Seen a Chinook with wall to wall body bags?

    You guys are immature useless sacks of shit. Carrying the other side's shit I might add because you have nothing of your own to carry of any substance.
    In the immortal words of Bruce Willis (John McLaine): "Welcome to the party, PAL"
     

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    - The strange reason ended up being that they took heavy investment (probably for all of their vast over-expansion) from Texas based, very liberal investment groups who basically grabbed them by the balls and said 'bark!'.
    This... and they got a Ivy League CEO foisted upon them who was only too happy to leg-hump the far left.

    That said, the founders (and the communications folks in this now-corporate entity) should have had the smarts to craft a statement that was not going to alienate their fan base.

    Good Coffee? Meh, early enough on a cold morning Chock-Full-o-Deez-Nutz smells and tastes fine. I bought from them because their videos were great and they walked the talk. I stopped when their woke CEO barked to the tune of the outside investors. And it was clear that the founders were left powerless because their shares had been diluted to the point that they were figureheads... not decision makers. Welcome to the world of Venture Investments.

    I wish the founders nothing but the best. The VC-owned company... failure.

    Back to my Green Mountain Coffee Southern Pecan. It's Ghey but goes well with bacon.

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    Hafer and his crew shit bricks you can't lift with both hands. Their balls leave furrows that would make an Iowa farmer proud. Their easiest day would make you cry like a baby.

    Every fucking one of them is a vet, many with horrible wounds who served in honorably. And you come on here in a public forum and besmirch him and his crew.
    ....yeah but how does their jizz taste?...

    did you fondle the balls while you worked the shaft at least?

    dudes talked shit about a kid defending himself from a pedo, a rapist, and a felon...i think they are just pissed because a 17yr old has a higher body county than his whole crew.

    kids out there doing the lords work while the "giant ball farming crew" were donating to the dems.
     
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    Funny how there are always a few Blue Falcons on every site putting fire on the reciprocal coordinates and covering themselves in glory afterwards.

    Put a three round burst in a buddy's face and claim you shot the enemy.

    We always weeded them out before deployment. These were the guys who could not get along with anyone, who could not see the mission came first, and who had the lightest packs and the most pogie bait.

    Behind the scenes and keyboards, they had all the answers. They never once planned or executed an operation but always had criticisms for how things were done. Put them in front of the room with a marker and an empty whiteboard and ten minutes later the board was as empty as them.

    That's how you fine gentlemen come across. Poison.

    All you are doing is pouring the poisoned kool-aid into the water and then claiming the water was bad in the first place.

    Hafer and his crew shit bricks you can't lift with both hands. Their balls leave furrows that would make an Iowa farmer proud. Their easiest day would make you cry like a baby.

    Every fucking one of them is a vet, many with horrible wounds who served in honorably. And you come on here in a public forum and besmirch him and his crew.

    Have you ever held a man who is bleeding out? Found something in your mouth after a blast and realized it was human flesh? Stood in the TOC as the unit you sent out is picked apart and QRF is not going to make it? Watched the evac come in with the blood pouring out onto the skids? Seen a Chinook with wall to wall body bags?

    You guys are immature useless sacks of shit. Carrying the other side's shit I might add because you have nothing of your own to carry of any substance.
    John McCain was an old war hero also.........if you think that gives someone Carte Blanche to act say or do whatever they want without being judged you are sadly mistaken.......:unsure:
     

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    In the immortal words of Bruce Willis (John McLaine): "Welcome to the party, PAL"
    Sean... not fair to oldloser.

    He is right. The founders of that company were some hard chargers who came up with a great idea, a great product and had amazing marketing. Is it the best coffee in the world? Who cares? They had a Prius with a gatling gun on it!!!

    The issue was not with the founders and the guys who made BRCC what it was. The issue is that they accepted venture funding/angel funding from a group who probably promised them the world and an IPO and huge returns. And instead, stuck an Ivy League Douche-nozzle CEO in the slot that they bought. And rode their investment as far as they could right up until there was an 'Oh Shit' moment when their T-Shirt was on a kid that turned into a lightning rod.

    I will guess here that the founders would have liked to invite Rittenhouse to the factory, let him shoot a tank, eat raw coffee beans off a hot SAW barrel, lift weights with bikini-clad models and celebrate his Git-er-Done moment.

    But the outside investors got on the phone with their hand-selected Wharton/Harvard/Yale/Skull-and-Bones douche CEO and said "This is how it's gonna be, zippy." And the company flew itself into a mountainside of idiocy. Because that's how their investors... who owned 50.0001 percent of the stock due to their VC/Angel investment... called it. Once you are in the minority, shareholder-wise, you can't do shit.

    IMHO, oldloser is right on. The founders deserve none of the vitriol. Sadly, they are probably stuck watching their company lose value and become IPO-impossible... because their VC folks fucked them totally. And their VC investors attitude is... "Meh, we destroy 40 companies, but 1 winner pays for 100 companies. So fuck those founders. We will make our money elsewhere."

    So a bunch of guys who bled and sweated and fought for their country... then founded a great company... get screwed. And their VC investors get a tax writeoff and a great moment of wokeness. So all their friends at the Venture capital runny cheese and chardonnay parties will love them... could give a crap. Some might even be laughing. Going "We bought into that company to destroy them. Mission Accomplished."

    Do you really put it past some of these venture funds? Do you?

    Anyway... I hope the founders come out with something. Honestly, I hope they come out rich. But, sadly, the world of angel and VC investing makes Stalinist Russia look like Romper Room. And those who bailed on BRCC (me included) did NOT bail on the founders. We bailed on the scum-weasels who hijacked the company and tried to turn it into Black Rights Commie Comsomal (I know, that has a K) instead of an awesome veteran-owned business that, in a just world, would have made their warrior-founders rich.

    Had they not been Fucked over by commies.

    Sirhr
     

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    Funny how there are always a few Blue Falcons on every site putting fire on the reciprocal coordinates and covering themselves in glory afterwards.

    Put a three round burst in a buddy's face and claim you shot the enemy.

    We always weeded them out before deployment. These were the guys who could not get along with anyone, who could not see the mission came first, and who had the lightest packs and the most pogie bait.

    Behind the scenes and keyboards, they had all the answers. They never once planned or executed an operation but always had criticisms for how things were done. Put them in front of the room with a marker and an empty whiteboard and ten minutes later the board was as empty as them.

    That's how you fine gentlemen come across. Poison.

    All you are doing is pouring the poisoned kool-aid into the water and then claiming the water was bad in the first place.

    Hafer and his crew shit bricks you can't lift with both hands. Their balls leave furrows that would make an Iowa farmer proud. Their easiest day would make you cry like a baby.

    Every fucking one of them is a vet, many with horrible wounds who served in honorably. And you come on here in a public forum and besmirch him and his crew.

    Have you ever held a man who is bleeding out? Found something in your mouth after a blast and realized it was human flesh? Stood in the TOC as the unit you sent out is picked apart and QRF is not going to make it? Watched the evac come in with the blood pouring out onto the skids? Seen a Chinook with wall to wall body bags?

    You guys are immature useless sacks of shit. Carrying the other side's shit I might add because you have nothing of your own to carry of any substance.

    I did not spend much time follwing this as I really didn't care. No clue if your friends are the real deal or not and, again, don't care. You come here and basically call anyone who doesn't agree with you a pussy. I suspect you know little or nothing about 99.9999 to 100 percent of the folks here. So...I have just the one question. Who are you? Rhetorical; I don't care.
     

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    Sean... not fair to oldloser.

    He is right. The founders of that company were some hard chargers who came up with a great idea, a great product and had amazing marketing. Is it the best coffee in the world? Who cares? They had a Prius with a gatling gun on it!!!

    The issue was not with the founders and the guys who made BRCC what it was. The issue is that they accepted venture funding/angel funding from a group who probably promised them the world and an IPO and huge returns. And instead, stuck an Ivy League Douche-nozzle CEO in the slot that they bought. And rode their investment as far as they could right up until there was an 'Oh Shit' moment when their T-Shirt was on a kid that turned into a lightning rod.

    I will guess here that the founders would have liked to invite Rittenhouse to the factory, let him shoot a tank, eat raw coffee beans off a hot SAW barrel, lift weights with bikini-clad models and celebrate his Git-er-Done moment.

    But the outside investors got on the phone with their hand-selected Wharton/Harvard/Yale/Skull-and-Bones douche CEO and said "This is how it's gonna be, zippy." And the company flew itself into a mountainside of idiocy. Because that's how their investors... who owned 50.0001 percent of the stock due to their VC/Angel investment... called it. Once you are in the minority, shareholder-wise, you can't do shit.

    IMHO, oldloser is right on. The founders deserve none of the vitriol. Sadly, they are probably stuck watching their company lose value and become IPO-impossible... because their VC folks fucked them totally. And their VC investors attitude is... "Meh, we destroy 40 companies, but 1 winner pays for 100 companies. So fuck those founders. We will make our money elsewhere."

    So a bunch of guys who bled and sweated and fought for their country... then founded a great company... get screwed. And their VC investors get a tax writeoff and a great moment of wokeness. So all their friends at the Venture capital runny cheese and chardonnay parties will love them... could give a crap. Some might even be laughing. Going "We bought into that company to destroy them. Mission Accomplished."

    Do you really put it past some of these venture funds? Do you?

    Anyway... I hope the founders come out with something. Honestly, I hope they come out rich. But, sadly, the world of angel and VC investing makes Stalinist Russia look like Romper Room. And those who bailed on BRCC (me included) did NOT bail on the founders. We bailed on the scum-weasels who hijacked the company and tried to turn it into Black Rights Commie Comsomal (I know, that has a K) instead of an awesome veteran-owned business that, in a just world, would have made their warrior-founders rich.

    Had they not been Fucked over by commies.

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    I own 100 percent of my company, i always will. Being a sellout, even only half has its consequences. I have never sold half of anything i loved, have you?
     

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    I say that with so much work and stress right now i feel it actually killing me slowly. I still would tell you where to kick rocks to if if you offered to buy me out, i make enough money allready. Being happy with what you have and not being greedy is the only way to be invincible to the pitfalls imho.
     

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    I own 100 percent of my company, i always will. Being a sellout, even only half has its consequences. I have never sold half of anything i loved, have you?
    Played in the VC world for 2 decades.

    Why don't sharks eat Venture capitalists? Professional Courtesy.

    So never committed 'my' company. But was a major founding stockholder in 2 companies that got eaten alive. So... your sentiment is 100 percent right on.

    And taking on angel/VC is not being a sellout. When bootstrapping won't let you expand with the market opportunity. You need outside capial... or you die because someone else has the capital to beat you. It's a dog-eat-dog world and entrepreneurs are wearing milk-bone undershorts...

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    Played in the VC world for 2 decades.

    Why don't sharks eat Venture capitalists? Professional Courtesy.

    So never committed 'my' company. But was a major founding stockholder in 2 companies that got eaten alive. So... your sentiment is 100 percent right on.

    And taking on angel/VC is not being a sellout. When bootstrapping won't let you expand with the market opportunity. You need outside capial... or you die because someone else has the capital to beat you. It's a dog-eat-dog world and entrepreneurs are wearing milk-bone undershorts...

    Sirhr
    I build hotrods, so lets put it in hotrod terms. Say im building a sweet little t bucket, im spending about 15k, i have a nice frame, fiberglass body, wheels ect. But then i need some help with the drive train. Im trying to get the fucker to cars and coffee next month cause marie is gonna be there. So i barrow 7500 from my dad for 50.00001% ownership of my car. And i get her going. Then the morning of cars and coffee while im shining up the hilborn intakes, my dad walks up, grabs the keys and says he is going to the coast for the week, he is the majority shareholder and fuck me and my feelings better take the ranger. That is a sellout moment. Lol imho
     

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    This is why i will always let necessity be the mother of invention. When that time comes, if the only thing you can think of to do is let someone else take the wheel, you dont belong in the pedal down seat anyways.
     

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    I build hotrods, so lets put it in hotrod terms. Say im building a sweet little t bucket, im spending about 15k, i have a nice frame, fiberglass body, wheels ect. But then i need some help with the drive train. Im trying to get the fucker to cars and coffee next month cause marie is gonna be there. So i barrow 7500 from my dad for 50.00001% ownership of my car. And i get her going. Then the morning of cars and coffee while im shining up the hilborn intakes, my dad walks up, grabs the keys and says he is going to the coast for the week, he is the majority shareholder and fuck me and my feelings better take the ranger. That is a sellout moment. Lol imho
    But without the 7500 from Daddy Warbucks... you'd be sitting in a bucket on a set of rails with no engine or drivetrain.

    So.... damned if you do, damned if you don't.

    It's a choice. Bootstrap your T-bucket and make cars and coffee in 3 years. And maybe by then the chick has found a new boyfriend and you are stuck with a fattie who put up with your Tercel... while you T-bucket was under construction. Or take the 7500 and get to Cars and Coffee this spring, get the hot blonde.

    The issue is... is your 'daddy warbucks' going to be there to really help you? Or steal your car the morning of the big show.

    That's what you have to decide. Before you take the money. Because daddy will promise you that you will have full control over your awesome Hot Rod Lincoln... and he will NEVER make life difficult for you. But on the morning of Cars and Coffee...

    Will he a$$ fuck you? Or will he help you win the prize and take the blonde home.

    Hummmmmm.... which will it be? Who's Your Daddy? Do you know? Until after the deal is signed. Probably not. And there's the rub.

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    But without the 7500 from Daddy Warbucks... you'd be sitting in a bucket on a set of rails with no engine or drivetrain.

    So.... damned if you do, damned if you don't.

    It's a choice. Bootstrap your T-bucket and make cars and coffee in 3 years. And maybe by then the chick has found a new boyfriend and you are stuck with a fattie who put up with your Tercel... while you T-bucket was under construction. Or take the 7500 and get to Cars and Coffee this spring, get the hot blonde.

    The issue is... is your 'daddy warbucks' going to be there to really help you? Or steal your car the morning of the big show.

    That's what you have to decide. Before you take the money. Because daddy will promise you that you will have full control over your awesome Hot Rod Lincoln... and he will NEVER make life difficult for you. But on the morning of Cars and Coffee...

    Will he a$$ fuck you? Or will he help you win the prize and take the blonde home.

    Hummmmmm.... which will it be? Who's Your Daddy? Do you know? Until after the deal is signed. Probably not. And there's the rub.

    Sirhr
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    Option c. I take my ass to the junkyard and pull a decent 350 and bolt it to an old powerglide with a coat of paint. Add a cool intake and a gilmer belt and she will be happy. Nobody drives my cars but me. IMG_6532.jpg
    May not be perfect but i bet it gets the seat damp.
     
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    Option c. I take my ass to the junkyard and pull a decent 350 and bolt it to an old powerglide with a coat of paint. Add a cool intake and a gilmer belt and she will be happy. Nobody drives my cars but me. View attachment 7645216
    May not be perfect but i bet it gets the seat damp.
    And that is the entrepreneurs option!

    Sadly, when you are doing software or aviation tech... there aren't junkyards next door.

    Nice job on the T-Bucket!

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    And that is the entrepreneurs option!

    Sadly, when you are doing software or aviation tech... there aren't junkyards next door.

    Nice job on the T-Bucket!

    Sirhr
    I know for a fact there are some awesome aviation junkyards i could spend a week in... lol
     

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    Thats cool, does that run off of vibration analysis?
    It was for mro rebuilding and manufacturing of blade sets. Software and fixtures that took 90
    Percent out of the time. VC killed it because they got impatient. Expected glacial aviation industry to move at pace of software industry. Snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.

    concept restarted with a Phoenix company. They will use the ip and take to market. The early bird gets the worm, but in tech, the second mouse gets the cheese…

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    And that is the entrepreneurs option!

    Sadly, when you are doing software or aviation tech... there aren't junkyards next door.

    Nice job on the T-Bucket!

    Sirhr
    Something has been bugging me. Aside from greed and wanting to expand.... what could possibly have made it necessary to be on the cutting edge and need vc for a coffee company? Its not like they needed to get their bean synchronization algorithm to market first to beat big boy hillsboro to the patent office.
     
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    What are we whining about this time?

    The BRCC thing was over and done with months ago. It is universally accepted that:

    - They/the CEO or whatever made political donations and when confronted about it he double/tripled/quadrupled down on it on social media and made everything 10x worse and got caught lying multiple times

    - It all started when they decided to overtly take a stance on an issue that didn't even exist with Kyle's short simply being a BRCC shirt. Yet somehow felt the need to go full court press on 'we dont sponsor him' 'we dont agree with whatever happened' type of shit that NOONE had asked before they wanted to 'get ahead of it' for some strange reason. it was the equivalent of your parents coming home and you screaming 'I didn't break anything while you were gone'.

    - The strange reason ended up being that they took heavy investment (probably for all of their vast over-expansion) from Texas based, very liberal investment groups who basically grabbed them by the balls and said 'bark!'.

    - Their coffee has been, and will continue to be bulk bought garbage level coffee that is 80% marketing and hype

    - Go buy way better coffee like so many of us here did from my coffee thread around the same time, at Whats The Buzz Coffee.
    It's a new member. FEB 2021.

    Hes gotta get his street cred....

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    Funny how there are always a few Blue Falcons on every site putting fire on the reciprocal coordinates and covering themselves in glory afterwards.

    Put a three round burst in a buddy's face and claim you shot the enemy.

    We always weeded them out before deployment. These were the guys who could not get along with anyone, who could not see the mission came first, and who had the lightest packs and the most pogie bait.

    Behind the scenes and keyboards, they had all the answers. They never once planned or executed an operation but always had criticisms for how things were done. Put them in front of the room with a marker and an empty whiteboard and ten minutes later the board was as empty as them.

    That's how you fine gentlemen come across. Poison.

    All you are doing is pouring the poisoned kool-aid into the water and then claiming the water was bad in the first place.

    Hafer and his crew shit bricks you can't lift with both hands. Their balls leave furrows that would make an Iowa farmer proud. Their easiest day would make you cry like a baby.

    Every fucking one of them is a vet, many with horrible wounds who served in honorably. And you come on here in a public forum and besmirch him and his crew.

    Have you ever held a man who is bleeding out? Found something in your mouth after a blast and realized it was human flesh? Stood in the TOC as the unit you sent out is picked apart and QRF is not going to make it? Watched the evac come in with the blood pouring out onto the skids? Seen a Chinook with wall to wall body bags?

    You guys are immature useless sacks of shit. Carrying the other side's shit I might add because you have nothing of your own to carry of any substance.
    As I medic I've seen very ficked up shit....

    Since you started this, I'll list a few things ive seen.

    16yr old in iraq burned 95% full thickness burns, father doused her in gasoline amd lit her up.

    11 month old baby dipped in boiling water to her nipples because her father wanted a boy.

    Afghanistan,

    13 of my guys killed by SVBIED, had to pick all the remains out of the bus they were in.

    Guy falls out of bed amd rips his jugular and carotid open, luckily I was able to save him

    My best friend killed on my wife's birthday

    2 guys killed for no reason other than inexperienced E7 decided to tell our scout vehicle to roll over a known IED to pull far side security.

    14yr old boy had both arms taken off and chest/abdomen eviscerated because IED exploded while he was emplacing it.

    That's just my military career amd not counting my 10yrs as a civilian paramedic.

    Now fuck off and go back to your parents basement


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