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What do you consider the Gen 3 Razor of Rangefinding Binos? Specifically with PRS/NRL in mind.

In range finding binos, the Sig Kilo 10 K gen 2 is my choice. The optics are a lot better, better clarity and less blue tint, than the gen 1. The laser is excellent as is the onboard AB Elite and linking with other AB devices. The buttons and menus are pretty easy to use, and it’s the only rangefinding bino where you can adjust the LED reticle to closely match the actual alignment of the laser
 
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is AB needed if you already have other products with AB elite?

I know some sig offerings have the AB ultralight, so you can at least connect. I assume Fury non-ab just will give you a range and you'd have to manually put in the number.

I am looking too, just don't know what to get. I wouldn't mind a used Fury 5000 but I can't swing the AB one. the non ab is expensive enough...
 
If you don't need full AB and want to stay under $1K Sig Kilo6HDX gen 2 10x42 is better than Fury 5K HD Gen 2. I compared them side by side. Sig ranges faster and has better glass. Also comes with AB lite.
 
If you don't need full AB and want to stay under $1K Sig Kilo6HDX gen 2 10x42 is better than Fury 5K HD Gen 2. I compared them side by side. Sig ranges faster and has better glass. Also comes with AB lite.
I just contacted Vortex and apparently the 5000 HD AB is also discontinued.... Probably will go with Sig. I could use the AB lite just to connect to my garmin Tactix 8
 
I have Sig 3ks that Bluetooth to my kestrel and that’s solely what I use. Very reliable system. The 6ks should work the same. The vortex’s are good, but slower at ranging and providing data than the sigs. The 10k Gen 2 or the vectronix you can go wrong with. The revics work quite well, but don’t integrate AB. They use their own software that is pretty good.
 
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Another vote for the Sig 10K Gen 2. The vortex is WAY slower at calculations (specifically the AB models). Wouldn't even consider the geo ballistics model in today's environment.
Every now and then, you'll see sig certs pop up in the PX here. Those certs will work for the 10Ks.
 
In range finding binos, the Sig Kilo 10 K gen 2 is my choice. The optics are a lot better, better clarity and less blue tint, than the gen 1. The laser is excellent as is the onboard AB Elite and linking with other AB devices. The buttons and menus are pretty easy to use, and it’s the only rangefinding bino where you can adjust the LED reticle to closely match the actual alignment of the laser
How are you adjusting the laser? I didn't realize you could do this and combed through the manual and didn't see it mentioned unless I skipped over it.
 
That deal is out of stock.

That is what I'm thinking. Just get the 3K and I already have a basic kestrel. I can pull the wind from it and just punch it in my tactix 8.

Also considered buying one of the AB Calypso thingies and just put it next to me on a tripod
 
....or, you could buy this, which would take care of 95% of your needs:


Buy the LRF and get a kestrel with it at no additional cost!
Everyone has their own opinion but for me since I switched to 10x binoculars I haven't touched a monocular.

Binos are bulkier and heavier but I find they are easier to hold stable, have brighter/better glass, the magnification is closer to what your scope is usually set at, and they offer a wider field of view which is better for finding targets and familiarizing yourself with the target area before a stage.
 
Everyone has their own opinion but for me since I switched to 10x binoculars I haven't touched a monocular.

Binos are bulkier and heavier but I find they are easier to hold stable, have brighter/better glass, the magnification is closer to what your scope is usually set at, and they offer a wider field of view which is better for finding targets and familiarizing yourself with the target area before a stage.

I agree. Could be cost for some. Perhaps not the topic for this specific post, but a 3K is going to give you some good ability.

Since scope is a priority for now, the price of it is going to dictate what I get for LRF.
 
I agree. Could be cost for some. Perhaps not the topic for this specific post, but a 3K is going to give you some good ability.

Since scope is a priority for now, the price of it is going to dictate what I get for LRF.
Give Scopelist a call and ask for their best price. They have the Kilo6HDX 8x42 in stock and you might get it for under $700.
 
It is so much easier to find/range with binocular rangefinders. The new Sig 6K BDX looks like an improvement over the prior iterations. They have AB-Ultralight on board and AB-X, which, like the previous version, will connect to your Kestrel devices. This will be my next purchase. It appears that they have also updated the coatings. Once I have them, I'll test them out to distance and advise.
 
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How are you adjusting the laser? I didn't realize you could do this and combed through the manual and didn't see it mentioned unless I skipped over it.
You have to use the BDX app to make minor adjustments to the reticle. Press a button on the Kilo 10K to turn it on. Once the BDX app is open and paired to your Kilo 10K open up the laser rangefinder section which brings up the menus for your binos. In the upper right corner is the gear icon for Settings, open it up and near the bottom of the settings choices is Reticle Alignment. Open it up and you can use the arrows to move your reticle up to 5 pixels in any direction from the center. On my binos, out of the box the laser was to the left of the center. Using the duplex reticle I was able to adjust the reticle so the right side of my laser is in the middle of the reticle so now if I put the duplex on a target I know the laser ranging off my target and not the ground around it.
 
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eh. I feel wind closer to shooting area matters just as much. but you should be able to read wind. Kestrel just gives a good general idea. where I shoot in Florida in berms etc, our wind doesn't change much most the time wind isn't shifting left right/right left where I'm at and values changing.

Statistically it does not matter as much. Berms especially highlight this since you’re likely not going to experience the same wind from shooting position without a berm.