What happened to going back to the moon?

[E. Bryant]

I know that nobody is looking for a serious answer and just wants to bitch, but the real issue is that we don't just want to go to the moon in a tin can for a couple of days, but instead set up some proper infrastructure as a stepping stone to elsewhere in the solar system. This means that we can't just dust off the Apollo tech and run it back again.

Complicating matters are our desire to do this on a shoestring budget, no broad public support, the presidential flip-flop every four years, a chronic inability to put the best possible leadership in place (not putting forth the nomination of Jared Issacman was a colossal failure), and awkward public-private partnerships with companies that either haven't yet demonstrated much of anything (Blue Origin) or who are struggling mightily with the fact that the move-fast-break-stuff iterative approach might have finite limitations (you know who).

 

[Pillow Gun]

In today's social media age, They will have to film everything live and that would be spilling too many secrets.

The whole pod casters and conspiracy theorist will have too much food in their mouth.

 

[Skeptic1]

Lol........
The "real" answer is that we've never been to the moon. We are never going to the moon or anywhere else away from earth.
This isn't a sci-fi movie. It's real fucking life.
We are on this planet. We will die on this planet.
The planet isn't dying. We aren't creating climate change.
Everything is ok.
We got wars to fight still.

 

[lash]

In today's social media age, They will have to film everything live and that would be spilling too many secrets.

The whole pod casters and conspiracy theorist will have too much food in their mouth.

Why? Sure there will be plenty of live coverage, but why would they GAF about the conspiracy theorists? Anything that gets accomplished will speak for itself.

 

[lash]

Lol........
The "real" answer is that we've never been to the moon. We are never going to the moon or anywhere else away from earth.
This isn't a sci-fi movie. It's real fucking life.
We are on this planet. We will die on this planet.
The planet isn't dying. We aren't creating climate change.
Everything is ok.
We got wars to fight still.

 

[Bacarrat]

I know that nobody is looking for a serious answer and just wants to bitch, but the real issue is that we don't just want to go to the moon in a tin can for a couple of days, but instead set up some proper infrastructure as a stepping stone to elsewhere in the solar system. This means that we can't just dust off the Apollo tech and run it back again.

Complicating matters are our desire to do this on a shoestring budget, no broad public support, the presidential flip-flop every four years, a chronic inability to put the best possible leadership in place (not putting forth the nomination of Jared Issacman was a colossal failure), and awkward public-private partnerships with companies that either haven't yet demonstrated much of anything (Blue Origin) or who are struggling mightily with the fact that the move-fast-break-stuff iterative approach might have finite limitations (you know who).

Yep, people have no clue what they are talking about if they are comparing Apollo era NASA vs what they are trying to do this time around. I actually do enjoy the iterative design approach that Space X does. I firmly believe if they just wanted to just to get to the moon Starship would have been testing a lot of other things right now, except for the fact that they are trying to make the whole rocket reusable.

 

[Bacarrat]

Lol........
The "real" answer is that we've never been to the moon. We are never going to the moon or anywhere else away from earth.
This isn't a sci-fi movie. It's real fucking life.
We are on this planet. We will die on this planet.
The planet isn't dying. We aren't creating climate change.
Everything is ok.
We got wars to fight still.

You do know that there are satellites that fly around the moon and have taken pics of ALL the Apollo landing site right?

 

[mtwarych]

We went to the moon in the late sixties.

When it was time for my "generation" to go to a higher learning, the most intelligent, capable people were put on the bottom of the list for financial assistance and at that time, I couldn't afford to go to college basically because I am white. I joined the Marine Corps for my college tuition. Now people are "were" joining to get their dick cut off for free. Starting to see a difference in "educated" people yet?

The American public has been screwed with so much pertainng higher learning, especially the intelligent, capable people who could actually apply the higher learning, that we now have three and a half, possibly four generations of blithering idiots and the USA doesn't have the "corner" on any type of technology like we used to.

The USA as a whole is in serious trouble. I'm positive we will continue to have problems until after all of us are dead.

Once all the smart, able people die off in the next 20 or so years, the USA won't have many competent people to lead what's left of this nation.

I may be a crayon eater but I'm a fairly sure the USA has lost or sold it's ability to continue to be the world leaders in anything.

 

[lash]

You do know that there are satellites that fly around the moon and have taken pics of ALL the Apollo landing site right?

But, but, the lizard kings control all of our information. Don’t you know that?

 

[ironpony52]

You do know that there are satellites that fly around the moon and have taken pics of ALL the Apollo landing site right?

Sure and there is no Epstein client list...............JFK was only one shooter.............want me to continue

 

[Bacarrat]

Sure and there is no Epstein client list...............JFK was only one shooter.............want me to continue

Guess the Indians are in on the fake moon landing too. ISRO's satellites have taken pics of the Apollo landing sites.

 

[Skeptic1]

A shadow and a blurry spot. May well be a Bigfoot sighting. So effing gullible

 

[Bacarrat]

A shadow and a blurry spot. May well be a Bigfoot sighting. So effing gullible

You sound like a Democrat.

 

[TheHorta]

Vaccinated! Vaccinated everywhere!

 

[diggler1833]

Crap, I walked into here without my knee-high conspiracy boots on...

 

[lash]

Crap, I walked into here without my knee-high conspiracy boots on...

You’re going to need waders…

 

[Pillow Gun]

Why? Sure there will be plenty of live coverage, but why would they GAF about the conspiracy theorists? Anything that gets accomplished will speak for itself.

Facts... But i believe we live in a world were the elite and government will do anything to keep certain truths from the public.
its time the world see itself as it truly is and not how government bodies and elite tell us.

 

[DocRDS]

I know that nobody is looking for a serious answer and just wants to bitch, but the real issue is that we don't just want to go to the moon in a tin can for a couple of days, but instead set up some proper infrastructure as a stepping stone to elsewhere in the solar system. This means that we can't just dust off the Apollo tech and run it back again.

Complicating matters are our desire to do this on a shoestring budget, no broad public support, the presidential flip-flop every four years, a chronic inability to put the best possible leadership in place (not putting forth the nomination of Jared Issacman was a colossal failure), and awkward public-private partnerships with companies that either haven't yet demonstrated much of anything (Blue Origin) or who are struggling mightily with the fact that the move-fast-break-stuff iterative approach might have finite limitations (you know who).

Add to that is while the SCIENCE hasn't changed--the ENGINEERING has.

All of that technical know-how of how to implement the science is forgotten. These rockets and systems are extremely compact highly integrated systems and when built took entire TEAMS of our best and brightest to fly. (take a look at this seuquence: https://www.nasa.gov/history/afj/ap12fj/a12-lightningstrike.html).

Just like when you write a computer program and then come back to it in a year or two and wonder why the hell it doesn't work. Go get anything at the cutting edge of technology from 50 years ago and get it to run today. You can't, you gotta start from scratch.

Add to that our WILL. NASA was best and brightest. WAS. Not anymore--it another government claptrap of DEI. Look at those original groups of astronauts--up and down they were grade-A alpha over-achievers.

Now look at Mark Kelly.

Compare this to the OG landing--alarms going off left and right, losing comms, etc... Two cool cucumbers just out for a drive.


Also it wasn't a shoestring budget at the time---it was HUGE. (4-8X budget of today)

Conspiracy hacks love to troll, but science is hard. Since China would love to put egg on our face about a fake moon landing (let along Russia/USSR in the late 60s/70s) the fact that they have photos of our sites and tire tracks says something......

I know, I know, one too many shots to the head, I'm indoctrinated, vaxed, unvaxxed, liberal, neocon, troll, etc...


Sometimes we pull off miracles. Sometimes. Othertimes we do the CA hi speed rail. Its a toss up.

 

[lash]

Add to that is while the SCIENCE hasn't changed--the ENGINEERING has.

All of that technical know-how of how to implement the science is forgotten. These rockets and systems are extremely compact highly integrated systems and when built took entire TEAMS of our best and brightest to fly. (take a look at this seuquence: https://www.nasa.gov/history/afj/ap12fj/a12-lightningstrike.html).

Just like when you write a computer program and then come back to it in a year or two and wonder why the hell it doesn't work. Go get anything at the cutting edge of technology from 50 years ago and get it to run today. You can't, you gotta start from scratch.

Add to that our WILL. NASA was best and brightest. WAS. Not anymore--it another government claptrap of DEI. Look at those original groups of astronauts--up and down they were grade-A alpha over-achievers.

Now look at Mark Kelly.

Compare this to the OG landing--alarms going off left and right, losing comms, etc... Two cool cucumbers just out for a drive.


Also it wasn't a shoestring budget at the time---it was HUGE. (4-8X budget of today)
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Conspiracy hacks love to troll, but science is hard. Since China would love to put egg on our face about a fake moon landing (let along Russia/USSR in the late 60s/70s) the fact that they have photos of our sites and tire tracks says something......

I know, I know, one too many shots to the head, I'm indoctrinated, vaxed, unvaxxed, liberal, neocon, troll, etc...


Sometimes we pull off miracles. Sometimes. Othertimes we do the CA hi speed rail. Its a toss up.

Well done. Not that it will change any minds, but it should.

 

[supercorndogs]

It's our sound bite fake news culture. Trully we are seeing the desth of truth. The NASA guy in question was talking about not having the technology to put a space station at the moon. Disingenuous people cut that sound bite and left out the context.

The rocket driving the satellite that photographed Pluto passed the moon in about 9 hours.

 

[supercorndogs]

Ifn you had a ZCO you could see the lunar lander sight with it. If not, go be poor somewhere else.

 

[lash]

Ifn you had a ZCO you could see the lunar lander sight with it. If not, go be poor somewhere else.

I see’nt it! I wuz lining up my cross hairs when bam! There ‘twas!

I said, Ethel, don’t look! But ‘twas too late. She’d already Ben mooned!

 

[sandhiller]

But but but
I gots tape!

 

[CoryT]

On the bright side, this thread has identified the morons that have zero understanding of science, space travel, or engineering W could literately send these people to the Moon and they would claim it was something like memory implants..