Surprised that none of the media really seems to be covering the riots in Tehran right now. You'd figure it'd be all over the media's websites. @THEIS you hearing anything, across the pond?
What? No news on the riots?
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It's Trump's fault.
What else do you need to know?
What else do you need to know?
Media is going to give it a big wide leaving it alone because this is big news and favorable toward Trump.
40 years Iran has been a thorn in the side of this country and if done right now there is a chance for them to join the group of civilized nations.
The signifigance of this is historic.....
Hoping they dont all end up dead for that.
40 years Iran has been a thorn in the side of this country and if done right now there is a chance for them to join the group of civilized nations.
The signifigance of this is historic.....
Hoping they dont all end up dead for that.
If anyone had doubts where the MSM loyalties lie, this should be telling.
Anyone want to make a gun run to arm the civvies? Haha.
If someone can make the arrangements I’ll go.
Today I learned that I have more in common with the protestors in Hong Kong and Iran, than I do with the democratic party in the US.
Sad but true. The enemy within.
Even in a regime like Iran's, there has got to be a substantial number of people who's got guns and ammo secretly stashed away somewhere. From the reports that we are getting so far, it seems like the gunfire should be starting to go two way now. Those who have secreted away arms caches for the hope of a revolution, time to use them now... As they say, "smoke 'em if ya got 'em".
Meh, they are xpecting The US to screw them like Obama did some years ago.
Unsure if Trump won't also.
Trump will do what's good for USA and if he gets an offer that is better he will pull the rug out from under the protesters.
The Devil you know may be better than the One we don't.
Unsure if Trump won't also.
Trump will do what's good for USA and if he gets an offer that is better he will pull the rug out from under the protesters.
The Devil you know may be better than the One we don't.
If they manage to strike that arc, and go full burn until the ayatollahs end up on the front lawn of their palaces, dead and decapitated... Which is unlikely, but not impossible either, I wonder how Trump is going to respond. Will he step up and offer his full open arms support of the victors? The Democrats of course, are hoping that the revolts will be brutally stomped out.
The revolts stand a good chance to succeed.
If they do Iran is one country in that wider region that may become Functional.
I think a best case scenario is they are the new Jordan.
The only offer we should give them is we will trade fairly with you, no tariffs, free import/export of products.
Guessing Ford, Chevy and F4 Phantom parts will sell well over there.
Not to mention I'd like to see the oil market get my number 2 dyed back around $1.50/gallon.
If they do Iran is one country in that wider region that may become Functional.
I think a best case scenario is they are the new Jordan.
The only offer we should give them is we will trade fairly with you, no tariffs, free import/export of products.
Guessing Ford, Chevy and F4 Phantom parts will sell well over there.
Not to mention I'd like to see the oil market get my number 2 dyed back around $1.50/gallon.
Maybe, but I am not so sure. What is happening shows deep thinking on Trumps part. 40 years ago the people openly embraced the overthrow. Maybe even with the help of goon squads to cement it. They lived that life, and know it well now. Now they have the opportunnity to do it again and it looks like they are taking it. The only way it works out is if the people do it.
If the people in Iran can see Trump as different. So should we see it. Or at least give him the benefit of the doubt.
I’m willing to give it a go, for the people of Iran. If it bites me in the ass then at least I can say I tried.
I've been seeing reports on MSM outlets. I'm predicting a complete 180* from most of them over the next few weeks/months. Trump will become the media darling. Hard to fathom but those cucks will feed on anything that keeps them relevant.
I believe it's historical what we're watching. And make no bones about it, Trump is responsible. That and the itchy finger from the idiot manning the anti aircraft missiles.
I believe it's historical what we're watching. And make no bones about it, Trump is responsible. That and the itchy finger from the idiot manning the anti aircraft missiles.
My hopes are for Iran, it has to be through their own people though, no US troops.
Tell the Ayatollahs anything that flies out of their airspace gets shot down, anything unmanned flying out of their airspace will find a few blocks of destruction surroundings it's launch pad.
The only replacement for the Iranian regime that has a chance to succeed is one their people put in place.
Tell the Ayatollahs anything that flies out of their airspace gets shot down, anything unmanned flying out of their airspace will find a few blocks of destruction surroundings it's launch pad.
The only replacement for the Iranian regime that has a chance to succeed is one their people put in place.
Hi,
Yes, all kinds of things going on for the past 2 days.
Here the protesters are chanting "Death to the Dictator" during Nationwide protest.
Here are few headlines going around right now....
Being reported a couple hours ago that the son of Iranian opposition leader Mehdi Karoubi is arrested.
US Secretary of State: Militias loyal to Iran continue to destabilize the region.
A spokesman for the British Prime Minister: We summoned the Iranian ambassador to the Foreign Office today to express our objections to the arrest of our ambassador in Tehran.
Sincerely,
Theis
Just thinking here.
Those Iranians raised to hate the US see our flag as a symbol of freedom and showing it respect is an attack on their tyrant leadership.
Iranians have better understanding and "hope" for what our flag stands for more than half of this country.
Talking to a man the other day that was new here from Albania.
Here he is in America an armed security guard with a good job.
If you understand Albania you can imagine what a 50 year old New immigrant has lived through.
I asked him how tragic it was for him to come from Albania and see Bernie Sanders being pushed as a viable candidate.
He thought it was crazy.
If Iran falls I think Venezuela will soon follow. There is a connection.........all part of the New World Order War.
Those Iranians raised to hate the US see our flag as a symbol of freedom and showing it respect is an attack on their tyrant leadership.
Iranians have better understanding and "hope" for what our flag stands for more than half of this country.
Talking to a man the other day that was new here from Albania.
Here he is in America an armed security guard with a good job.
If you understand Albania you can imagine what a 50 year old New immigrant has lived through.
I asked him how tragic it was for him to come from Albania and see Bernie Sanders being pushed as a viable candidate.
He thought it was crazy.
If Iran falls I think Venezuela will soon follow. There is a connection.........all part of the New World Order War.
Propaganda networks coverage on people willing to face off with their govt? It's been happening all over the world and there's no coverage. Well..... Orange Man bad!!! Google up what's going on in Chile Venezuela and several other South America countries.
Hell, the stupid retard climate change teen couldn't go to Chile because of the unrest there. They didn't cover that because of their agenda to tell you what to think.
Hell, the stupid retard climate change teen couldn't go to Chile because of the unrest there. They didn't cover that because of their agenda to tell you what to think.
How easy would it be for Venezuela to get armed, though? Iran is one thing; like @Blue Sky Country said, there's gonna be arms caches and markets and ways to get that shit in the Middle Easy, from Hi Power clones to RPGs. Maybe there's still some shit in South America from the '70s and '80s, but I don't see them being able to get effectively equipped so easily now.
How loyal are soldiers when they are eating dog meat while th boss eats steak?
Well there were plenty enough loyalists in Tsarist Russia to machine-gun and saber-hack the peaceful protestors and demonstrators at the time, and even during the actual revolution too...
But I see your point. I don't think I'd be 100% trustworthy or hopeful of that working out, though.
Black markets are extremely innovative, fluid, and adaptable. Criminal elements in any country will be able to find a source of arms and the income that can be generated off of their trade is absolutely immense. From them, other special interest political groups as well as civilians who want a measure of protection will be the source of this income. Look at how much contraband that is amassed from prisons each year. From cell phones to drugs and weapons. And a prison is about the smallest and most easily controllable micro-society on the societal hierarchy, from the family unit to the country. Crude and very effective guns can also be manufactured by those with even limited technical know-how. Historically, the single largest source of illicit arms in any country in the world with tight gun laws would be theft or organized insider trafficking at state arms manufacturing plants, with production numbers edited to fool government auditors. Secondary sources would be conscript soldiers taking items out of the armory, along with shipments arriving from abroad via organized crime.
A smart tyrant knows to keep his shock troops well fed, well paid, and well motivated by the additional prospects of pillage and rape. This has been the primary mechanism of the despotism engine since the days of antiquity. The Byzantine emperor Justinian, even on the brink of being dragged out of his own quarters by a mob which had sacked and burned it's way right to the inner courtyard of the imperial palace, was able to muster the troops needed to slaughter the mob down to it's last participant, and restore order. Many of these same troops and leaders would later be instrumental in the creation and guarding of the Hagia Sophia Cathedral, which was Justinian's ultimate hurrah of triumph to the entire world...
They actually thought socialism/communism would make their lives better.
Venezuelan soldiers shave learned the reality.
This is true, and Northern Ireland has been doing much the same for decades. I'm not denying it's possible that Venezuela would get weapons, even The Good Shit(TM), enough to effect a proper revolution, but for some reason I just don't feel convinced it'll happen as well as it might in the Middle East. I could be very much incorrect but I've always figured there was a greater pipeline, so to speak, between the West/Russia and the Middle East/Southeast Asia/Africa for that sort of traffic, while South America is somewhat more isolated from it. Obviously Mexico and the organized crime shit down there have their means and ways, but the cartels have the money to get it.
But don't get me wrong, I'm all for a secular Iran returning to how it used to be. Was certainly better off then than it is now under zealotry and all. And likewise I'd be rooting for Venezuela to haul itself out of the pit its government has dived headfirst into, and to both countries I wish the best in their efforts to effect such change.
The only way...as it stands today...is for the military of Iran / Venezuela to overthrow the dictatorships.
The "people" without some sort of military backing simply lack the means.
But what type of government would emerge from such a coup...?
2A.
The "people" without some sort of military backing simply lack the means.
But what type of government would emerge from such a coup...?
2A.
Briefly on the subject of the Hagia Sofia, I've been there and seen the Varangian Guard's names carved into the railings. Viking shock troops/imperial bodyguards. Have photos of it somewhere but that was over a decade ago I was there.
Fought a healthy blurb on PBS this evening. They even stated the reason was the youth is active and they are holding the government responsible for the deaths of those on the airline.
Iranians think living under the Terrorist Mullahs is impossible to live a free and fruitful life. Join the club if you think we have it any better!!
Cant be any news on Iran when we have the outrage of Vince Vaughan shaking the Presidents hand to talk about.
How FUCKED UP our Country is , I'm tired of all the stupid shit. Instead of hosting Revolutionary War Reenactments this year can we drop the Reenactment part ?
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