"Youll never shoot all those bullets"
I will never buy a MIL scope because this is the US and we measure in yards...
There is no difference between a $200 scope and a $3,000 scope other than the name. They are all made by the same company in Japan.
There is no difference between a $200 scope and a $3,000 scope other than the name. They are all made by the same company in Japan.
The factory is actually in China.
It’s called the “Wei Ga Cho Money” factory.
It’s called the “Wei Ga Cho Money” factory.
I was shooting with a few guys back in 2011, and we were having a little competition between us. It came down to 4 of us, and we were all experienced shooters. Steel target was out around 7-800 yds. One guy completely misses a shot and his reasoning was that the atmospheric pressure changed dramatically between his shot before the last one and threw off his dope. Made fun of him for quite a while about that one
Nope, makes perfect sense. The Masons are the rebranded Templar organization, the first international bank. Banks weren't regulated then and the king of France was in huge debt. He and the pope at the time conspired to issue death warrants for all the Templars. The warrants were sealed, sent all over Europe and opened at the same time to prevent escape.
The charges ranged from petty to obscene. They were all killed or forced to run.
So yeah, given the church's obstinate stance on other issues like kid fucking, I bet they still do have a hard on for Templars/Masons. FWIW, US was founded by Masons and US had no official contact with Vatican until after Kennedy. Pope even sent a cornerstone for the (Statue of Liberty?) but it was defaced and destroyed by the public --because it was from Rome.
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That is their next door neighbor at the Vatican. The French Masons.
I had a young guy at my prior employer tell me about how a .50 BMG will tear limbs off even with a miss. He was a vet from Iraq and supposedly a driver for a special ops team while there. I mentioned to him that we had a 50 Cal Shooter's Assoc. at our range and that I helped spot for them after our highpower match finished one Sunday. I told him that with all that energy, it's amazing how those bullets only make a half-inch sized hole in the targets, and that they don't rip them right out of the frames with every shot. He still didn't get what I was saying. We had a little talk about how his word carries a lot of weight since he has done a couple tours and was still serving as a reserve, and that maybe it wasn't a good idea passing along hearsay stories like that, and it how just undermined everything else he might talk about. I don't think any of it sunk in though.
I worked at a shop for a little while, and had a customer tell me once a .308 only dropped 36 inches at 1000 yards. His reasoning: Shooting benches were only 3 feet high, the rifle is pointed straight at the target, and the bullet has to start dropping as soon as it leaves the barrel.
I drew a picture for him showing how a rifle's bore is angled up while line of sight is straight, and showed him dope charts of my own .308. He told me I had no idea what I was talking about amd walked out of the shop.
I drew a picture for him showing how a rifle's bore is angled up while line of sight is straight, and showed him dope charts of my own .308. He told me I had no idea what I was talking about amd walked out of the shop.
I would have told him that he's so stupid, he couldn't pour piss out of a boot without instructions on the heel. But that is why I am not in Sales
My favorite is an acquaintance who believes that you should not shoot any North American game animal with less than a 300 Ultra Mag. He is considering a 338 for elk hunting.
Lol, yeah, my mother-in-law shot a antelope at less than 100 yards with a .223 62g soft point.
Nose in dirt without a step.
My nephew uses a .223 to shoot deer. He doesnt take a shot under 200 yards typically but he has a 100% success rate.
This same acquaintance though I was fooling for considering anything less that a 30 cal bullet to hunt with. I think he is the type of person who wants the biggest exit wound possible. He has told me on several occasions that anything under 3100 fps is not enough to hunt with.
Yeah, those are the guys I just rolled my eyes at LOL. How did anyone kill any big game before smokeless powder? The rifle of the west was usually a 32 caliber with black powder cartridges. Lots of deer and elk have been shot with a black powder cartridge LOL
Yeah, he is bigger is always better kind of person. He is still trying to kill his first deer with a bow, how ironic is that. I wonder if he is going to put a 30 cal bullet on the end of his arrow.
I’ve kilt just as many with an arrow moving sub 300 FPS.
You should recommend he get a .50 BMG so he can just shoot next to them and and save some time skinning it. ?
A post on this site regarding the difference in impact between free recoil and not:
"I always figure 1/2 moa, or between .1-2 mils. Easy way to help figure this is to let a small kid(without instruction) shoot your rifle at distance and then spot impacts. They will not instinctively manhandle the rifle, if it's a magnum, this may not be the best idea."
"I always figure 1/2 moa, or between .1-2 mils. Easy way to help figure this is to let a small kid(without instruction) shoot your rifle at distance and then spot impacts. They will not instinctively manhandle the rifle, if it's a magnum, this may not be the best idea."
My in laws constantly tell me there is a black panther (cat) on their ranch. I've lived there 7yrs and no sign.
Same family members told me that a black unmarked helicopter landed on a ranch South of Big Spring, TX and demanded to search the owners house and inspect all his guns.
Gun wise... " I've shot cheap and expensive ar15's... they all shoot the same.
Same family members told me that a black unmarked helicopter landed on a ranch South of Big Spring, TX and demanded to search the owners house and inspect all his guns.
Gun wise... " I've shot cheap and expensive ar15's... they all shoot the same.
That must be one of my relatives, who always wants to shoot long range with us. But, never gets past the blasting stage when he takes his AR out. Then wonders why he isn't included in our long range shoots!
At a sniper school a few years ago, a new trainee was told to call his shots. He then got behind the rifle, called "Center Mass!", and pulled the trigger. He repeated that 4 more times, while the rest of us rolled around laughing. I guess that was the stupidest thing I ever saw, but close enough.
You must be dating a girl I knew in high school.
I work with a guy who was in the marines for a while, 13 years as a firearms instructor too (I've seen his papers). Stone cold serious tried telling me the AR in AR-15 stood for "Air Light" because they were designed to be light weight. I let it slide the first time he said it because I didn't feel like arguing with him. Then he said it again a few months later and I called him out on it. He argued with me, then I googled it for him and then he pulled the whole "Armalite Rifle, that's what i said". He also calls magazines "clips" and argues that he's allowed to call it whatever he wants because "he's killed people" and he was a Marine.
he's learned now I know my way around guns and he cant spew BS around me. So he tends to watch what he says and we actually hang out more now and shoot together. Let's just say he learned some stupid things and habits in the "corp".
Also watched him showing demonstrating to a new shooter how to shoot his .308 bolt action. He laid down behind the rifle damn near 90 degrees to it. Said "that's how we are taught to lay behind it in the Marines" Maybe so...but he looked ridiculous.
he's learned now I know my way around guns and he cant spew BS around me. So he tends to watch what he says and we actually hang out more now and shoot together. Let's just say he learned some stupid things and habits in the "corp".
Also watched him showing demonstrating to a new shooter how to shoot his .308 bolt action. He laid down behind the rifle damn near 90 degrees to it. Said "that's how we are taught to lay behind it in the Marines" Maybe so...but he looked ridiculous.
Yup, do or say something stupid and I guarantee you, miss Karma will make sure you meet up with it again.
.....uh yeah...BTDT don't know if I said this before, but when going through Ranger School, a lieutenant (maybe young captain) said "With the research going on today, in five to ten years the individual weapon will be a thing of the past. We won't need it anymore."
Wow. This is an infantry officer?
me too!
Since I'm a servant of the Socialist Peoples Republic of Maryland I could talk about every gun law ever passed by the General Assembly. This would take way too long. But the latest in a line of many is the new law concerning Bump Stocks. They become illegal in Oct of this year. However, owners would have until Oct of 2019 to properly license them by the ATF. Yes, we have a law on the books that says that owners of Bump Stocks have to follow some Federal law that isn't on the books. How do you become compliant with this law?
How stupid is that?
I'm just glad I had a boating accident on the Chesapeake Bay. I was taking my firearm collection to a friend's house who lives on an island. A storm came up and the boat capsized, dumping all of my firearms at the bottom of the bay.
I am so upset. I lost that Marlin Model 60 and a great looking Montgomery Wards 16 gauge single shot shotgun.
How stupid is that?
I'm just glad I had a boating accident on the Chesapeake Bay. I was taking my firearm collection to a friend's house who lives on an island. A storm came up and the boat capsized, dumping all of my firearms at the bottom of the bay.
I am so upset. I lost that Marlin Model 60 and a great looking Montgomery Wards 16 gauge single shot shotgun.
Noob here but next year will be my 50th year shooting just about everything I can trying to wear my trigger finger out, no luck so far! What I've heard would fill a WalMart. What I've seen is what I really remember!
A formerly great outdoor range in MD I no longer go to. 1st oops is I'm watching this guy take apart an IMI Eagle in 41 mag. Since I was shooting a S&W 58, I was just curious. He then takes a small tool set out and starts filing the bolt faces a little. Whoa I say, WTF are you doing that for? He says the gun isn't cycling well so I ask him if he has tried other ammo in it, I'll share some of my factory loads. Nope, he says, he reloads and blends his own powders, knows what he is doing as he is a "part time gunsmith and will get it right". Goodbye!
Same range, the last time. All clear, don't touch your guns. I see an O/U broken down in two, but the barrels are loaded. Bell in head starts ringing but not loud enough, long hot day, tired. Go down range to change a target with others and, KaBoom. Idiot had picked up front and back, re-assembled them and, gee wizz, the gun went off, lucky at about a 60 degree off angle. He left ASAP before I could get to him as I was at the 100 yd target line. Got to the RSO, weren't you watching? Um, he missed it, I knew he was watching some good looking women at the other end. Told him he could have gotten someone killed, namely me, and he should turn in his papers along in a loud not very polite way. Being I'm 6'9" and about 275, he just looked at his feet and mumbled a lot. Never gone back.
I have learned through the years to be selective of with who and where I shoot.
A formerly great outdoor range in MD I no longer go to. 1st oops is I'm watching this guy take apart an IMI Eagle in 41 mag. Since I was shooting a S&W 58, I was just curious. He then takes a small tool set out and starts filing the bolt faces a little. Whoa I say, WTF are you doing that for? He says the gun isn't cycling well so I ask him if he has tried other ammo in it, I'll share some of my factory loads. Nope, he says, he reloads and blends his own powders, knows what he is doing as he is a "part time gunsmith and will get it right". Goodbye!
Same range, the last time. All clear, don't touch your guns. I see an O/U broken down in two, but the barrels are loaded. Bell in head starts ringing but not loud enough, long hot day, tired. Go down range to change a target with others and, KaBoom. Idiot had picked up front and back, re-assembled them and, gee wizz, the gun went off, lucky at about a 60 degree off angle. He left ASAP before I could get to him as I was at the 100 yd target line. Got to the RSO, weren't you watching? Um, he missed it, I knew he was watching some good looking women at the other end. Told him he could have gotten someone killed, namely me, and he should turn in his papers along in a loud not very polite way. Being I'm 6'9" and about 275, he just looked at his feet and mumbled a lot. Never gone back.
I have learned through the years to be selective of with who and where I shoot.
You squeeze the trigger recruit. Put your finger tip on that loading board. Im gonna smack it with this piece of wood and you better not jerk it away. You will always remember to squeeze the trigger after that. Flinching got a loading board in the shoulder. Edison Range, Camp Pendleton 1965
Good friend of mine actually believed that "cleaning a Glock was not necessary", for years, until he managed to jam his G19 up at the range one day...(I used to constantly get on his case about cleaning his guns...and cannot understand the mindset of people who spend tons of money on something & then don't take care of it).
List of dumb things I've been told:
- You NEED to go to college, if you ever want to amount to anything.
- "It's a great investment opportunity" (said in regard to collectible military antiques).
- "I promise to uphold the Constitution" (virtually every politician).
They sent the spanish on a holy mission to collect gold from the new world, and to covert [destroy all the knowledge of] the Natives. They had giant book burnings, where the destroyed archives of Mayan history. Then they moved into north America mining with enslaved natives, and killing them in mass up until the Louisiana purchase. Who knows what they found, pilfered, and destroyed before we got here.
There are only a few known Mayan books left. 2 if memory serves me.
A thread on Facebook today where someone was contemplating the purchase of a fixed 6X scope with mil reticle / turrets and wanted to know how to do the math to range a target. He said he knew that it would be different than his fixed 10X which has the same reticle /turret.
35 people responded. One person said "you are too stupid to own a rifle with a scope" then the fun began
35 people responded. One person said "you are too stupid to own a rifle with a scope" then the fun began
I must have been around 10 years old with my dad, and this idiot at a party says, "I met a guy who can balance a quarter on the end of a 357, and take 6 shots with it still on the barrel". I was too young to call him a fucking jerk
“Reloading will save you money in the long run”
So long as my wife believes it...
That some dude in a dress and high heels, still sporting a 5 o'clock shadow, is really a woman inside.
And that I should be OK with it using the bathroom of its choice.
And that I should be OK with it using the bathroom of its choice.
I can think of a few from one gun shop. Ironically I've done everything opposite of what he says and so far it's worked out pretty well.
1. After I had already ordered a Razor AMG elsewhere... "You don't want a FFP scope, you'll never be able to use the hash marks for holdovers since they're too small".
2. "I run MOA turrets and a Mil-dot reticle, it's just easier for me that way. Enter the info on the back of my factory ammunition box and it gives me my exact dope every time"
3. "Why'd you buy a short action 6.5 Creedmoor? You'll never hit or kill anything past 500 yards with it. You need a (Insert random magnum cartridge here)"
Most of the products he pushes are just what he has in stock or is a dealer for. If you buy anything else, you've made a mistake even if it is better.
1. After I had already ordered a Razor AMG elsewhere... "You don't want a FFP scope, you'll never be able to use the hash marks for holdovers since they're too small".
2. "I run MOA turrets and a Mil-dot reticle, it's just easier for me that way. Enter the info on the back of my factory ammunition box and it gives me my exact dope every time"
3. "Why'd you buy a short action 6.5 Creedmoor? You'll never hit or kill anything past 500 yards with it. You need a (Insert random magnum cartridge here)"
Most of the products he pushes are just what he has in stock or is a dealer for. If you buy anything else, you've made a mistake even if it is better.
Some may disagree with me, but you know what drives me crazy? When ranges insist that you use chamber flags, and they call them “ECIs”. Like it’s some fucking technical term that makes them feel intelligent. A fucking strip of weed whacker in my breech even though the fucking bolt is out of the gun. Oh you feel all good now that you shoved your “ECI” in my chamber? Suck a dick mr fuckface RO.
Not talking matches here, just shooting on an empty day
Not talking matches here, just shooting on an empty day
That sounds like the kind of fucking assholes you find in Long Island
