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Where elected Anarchists rein....

Elected anarchist is an oxymoron, first and foremost. The literal definition of anarchy is: no rulers. That’s it, no more and no less. It doesn’t mean not living without rules or laws. It means living together, cooperating, and resolving conflict as peacefully as possible
Whenever you commies feel froggy, I guarantee you that you'll get one hell of a welcome.
Today, thousands of men ran across a beach while getting hammered by mg fire.
They were fighting a flavor of your "utopia"then too.
You will not get it to that point In Conus.
You will be stopped.
We aren't all man bun douchebags.
Tick tock comrade.
 
Anarchy will go tribal quickly.
Elders maybe consulted mostly as a custom.

The wise elders will not presume to rule, just offer advice or experience.

The strong in the tribe will dictate actions untill they fall out of favor.

Eventually I see that growing to a feudal system and then full circle back to where we are.
 
Ok, I gotta ask.... and maybe I missed a memo or something, but I saw the video of the older gentleman standing there when the crowd of police approached him. I have no idea what he said, or what he was standing there for. But I did see him pushed by the officer. And I saw him hit the deck, bleed, and be 'unattended to' while over the radio it was heard 'somebody call for a medic' (or whatever the term was, I can't recall).

My point being, in what Universe is it solidarity for everyone to quit because those two officers got suspended for their (alleged) actions? Or was that just an excuse for everyone to quit?

Don't get me wrong, I completely understand if the Law enforcers want to take a few days off to protect their own, and I'm not saying that is 'right'. But what I am asking though, is why/where/how can the whole group think that what that/those officers did was "ok"?

Again, if I've missed a memo or something, or the fact that the older gentleman was pulling a pin on a grenade or something.... then fine. I'm just missing a bit of context here where so-far, things don't add up or make sense to me.

Now, back to your regularly scheduled chaos, anarchy, mayhem, and vitriol espousing/condemning/supporting/quashing.
I have no idea if it was right or wrong to show solidarity and walk off. But I can imagine going to work and every friggin move you make that day will be on camera. Every move, every word spoken scrutinized by people who really do not want you to do your job. Clear the streets, HOW?
Judge just ordered Denver LE to not use tear gas, flash bangs, a time has to come where one says let it burn, draw a Fucking line, have your fun to this point. Of coarse that would be racist too, because the Line may be in a more affluent area.
LE's jobs right now are so lose-lose, why would you want to go to work?
And WTF will happen if these 4 MN cops are acquitted?
 
Anarchism and Communism ignore one huge irrefutable truth.

humans like to own stuff. And the strong will always tell the weak what to do.

I ignore “Socialism” because it’s just Communism without the commitment.
We've never experienced "real communism" at least by the strict definition of the word. Everything has been a form of socialism to now. (Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, or National Socialist Party - nazis)
True communism is supposed to look a lot like what old Mr. D is trying to promote. No real leader, just everyone agreeing to get along. This was tried at Jamestown... didn't work. In the end, these models always devolved into authoritarianism or totalitarianism. Of course you get the jackasses who who want to pontificate that "real socialism/communism/their favorite flavor of new term to try to turn the argument" hasn't really been tried. It is the height of arrogance of people like Mr. D that think that only if it was done in their model that it would be perfect. Like only they control the keys to knowledge, wisdom and success. Of course they are so much more evolved than us mere plebians. That's why they insult and provoke.
What I really don't understand is that the different forms of socialism tried in the 20th century has resulted in the deaths of many more millions of humans than by anything else in any time in history. 100+ million in the last century alone. Yet people like Mr. D keep insisting "if only in MY way". The pinnacle of ignorance. Perhaps we should insist "let's try Nazism again because it is really good, it just had the wrong person (Hitler) doing it...I can do it so much better!". Said no one ever.
But you have idiots and morons that still worship on the altar of Mao, Lenin, Castro, Che and etc.
No, communism/socialism is just another and more efficient way of the elite controlling and stealing the treasure from the unwashed masses.
 
Once birthed, anarchy becomes immortal.
Anarchism and Communism ignore one huge irrefutable truth.
humans like to own stuff. And the strong will always tell the weak what to do.
I ignore “Socialism” because it’s just Communism without the commitment.

I'd say that you have to understand that you cannot go against the fundamental principles all nature works on.
If you look at humans and human societies long enough, you see that in the end they are not all that different in base function than many animals.
The entire planet runs off of you get better and dominate, or you stay the same and get trodden down.

People like to claim "Anarchy" is the solution, and of course they use a very archaic rare interpretation of it to justify their cause, which has NO validity in the case of what is the current modern dictionary / common use meaning of Anarchy.

In the end everybody wants what is best for them and theirs. If you have fair rules that are enforced and allow lots of freedom while restricting the harm you can cause others, then freedom has a chance. If you let it become free for all, very quickly the whole thing goes bad.

Much like this country was founded by the most intelligent minds of their day that spent years studying 5000 years of human history, trying to devise the best government they could. They did a pretty good job but even then they left the seeds of it's own destruction in the design. And some were pretty convinced it was inevitable because humans would eventually destroy it for personal greed.
 
Ok, I gotta ask.... and maybe I missed a memo or something, but I saw the video of the older gentleman standing there when the crowd of police approached him. I have no idea what he said, or what he was standing there for. But I did see him pushed by the officer. And I saw him hit the deck, bleed, and be 'unattended to' while over the radio it was heard 'somebody call for a medic' (or whatever the term was, I can't recall).

My point being, in what Universe is it solidarity for everyone to quit because those two officers got suspended for their (alleged) actions? Or was that just an excuse for everyone to quit?

Don't get me wrong, I completely understand if the Law enforcers want to take a few days off to protect their own, and I'm not saying that is 'right'. But what I am asking though, is why/where/how can the whole group think that what that/those officers did was "ok"?

Again, if I've missed a memo or something, or the fact that the older gentleman was pulling a pin on a grenade or something.... then fine. I'm just missing a bit of context here where so-far, things don't add up or make sense to me.

Now, back to your regularly scheduled chaos, anarchy, mayhem, and vitriol espousing/condemning/supporting/quashing.
There was a clarifying article on one of the news sites saying that there are cops from ERT are claiming they resigned due to lack of support from the union and the scrutiny of their job, not out of solidarity.

I don’t know what to think of this whole thing. I have friends on the force in downtown and in surrounding areas, sheriffs and state police. We can’t have it both ways where we tell people they can’t exercise their first amendment rights just because we don’t other idiots to be animals after the protests are done. But we also can’t let mayhem be the rule in the cities. There is a fine line.

As for what comes next and how we as a people should proceed, I’m left with more questions than answers. Are we really all one people? One nation? E Pluribus Unum? I think not. Not at all. So how does this get mended?
 
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are we one people, anymore? I think the answer is in front of us, and it is NO... there was a time, not long ago, where a threat to the nation was seen as a threat to all of us.... and we came together to thwart the threat... NOW, I see any attempt to come together, either in support of LE, or Military means, is negated by the fact that one side hates us more than they hate any perceived enemy from another land... we see it every damn day... there was a report on Fox this morning about a citizen reporting a van in northern california with arms and bomb making materials on the street... police responded and chased this van into an ambush where one police officer was killed and two more wounded... the comments section was telling... there were people from the left who said the police should never have responded to the call, that they got what they deserved.... now I ask you.... are we irreparable divided? so happens the people being chased were of hispanic background... so what we are likely dealing with there are illegals with an intent to harm... do we count them into the population when we talk about us being divided? the left says yes, in other words, they import these bad players to do ill will and claim it is our fault... bring it...

The only way we get to balance again, is with the Big Reckoning... and the elimination of the threat to peace and stability on our shores...
 
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good point... perhaps the lawlessness will attract the rest of the bad players to the fun there....
 
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Oh. And anybody who attended public schools and universities in the last four decades must understand that they are not educated. They are brainwashed. Those places are the main institutions of Marxist indoc.
 
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the universities are.... but we can divide them into two camps, as well.... the sciences, and business versus the humanities... Engineers, Medical, Business people are stable, they are practical, and the foundation of those who are involved in ROTC programs... including their academic support at the professorial level...

The problem exists in the social, psychology, general humanities, art, literature, etc. curriculums... and the source of the negative ways over the past 60 years stem from those professors who view themselves as intellectually superior...
 
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the universities are.... but we can divide them into two camps, as well.... the sciences, and business versus the humanities... Engineers, Medical, Business people are stable, they are practical, and the foundation of those who are involved in ROTC programs... including their academic support at the professorial level...

The problem exists in the social, psychology, general humanities, art, literature, etc. curriculums... and the source of the negative ways over the past 60 years stem from those professors who view themselves as intellectually superior...
My son graduated from Penn State recently with honors in Computer Engineering.
He is an Antifa sympathizer if not a member.
He walked into a great job with IBM.
He used to have some sense. How the hell can you be a Computer Engineer with IBM and Antifa?
So I say again. I don’t care what you study, you are programmed and brainwashed.
I saw some tweets on my son’s account talking about bomb making.
I reported his ass to the FBI terrorist hot line.
They probably hired him.
 
Anarchy is allot like communism in as much as they are both words used to describe a political theory that can’t be realized. Marxist communism’s final state is where everyone is working together in perfect harmony and the government just fades away because it’s no longer needed. Anarchy is also theoretical state where there is no government. Both can’t happen. Our social nature and condition preclude them.
Absence of government creates government upon first contact between two people even if it’s just the most basic Strong Rule The Weak system. Periods of anarchy, like the middle of a riot, are extremely short, and when they’re widespread they have never, in all of human history, ended in anything but authoritarianism/totalitarianism.
Anarchy and Communism (not the in-practice communism, but the Marxist theory) have the same utterly unattainable goal of all people harmoniously living together without any government. Communism purports that through a progression of totalitarian socialism it can remake man into a creature that doesn’t need government. Anarchy just pretends we are already that other creature, but that lasts about a millisecond before the strong decide to tell the weak what to do.

Anarcho-capitalism Is a utopian extension of this “we’ll all interact harmoniously” fantasy, but despite its connection to pure communism vis a vis no government, usually those espousing it do not come from the hard left of communism, but rather from the extreme of libertarianism where they take liberty a step further and think no government at all will secure the most liberty. It’s utopian and unworkable.

This is the actual truth of the matter:

”We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. That, to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That, whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.”

Republican Constitutional Democracy is the most successful form of government ever, and all the rest are flawed and fucked in one respect or another. If we restored the constitutional checks on federal power that have been removed by progressives (eliminate the 16th and 17th amendments) we would be fine, and Washington DC would be put back in its box.
Atta Boy!!
 
No, we are not one people anymore, This has been the root principle of the communists; to divide and conquer. First stage, done. Second stage nearly done.

It's like experiencing a dam failure, only this one is intentional.

First, the rats burrow in under the dam, destroying its foundations.

Next the waters are made to rise, stressing the dam to the failure point.

Then...

Well then, we're at this point.

Meanwhile the folks who live downstream all come out to demonstrate their faith in something thart hasn't been true since before the rats came. They talk about it a lot, some take sides (not that many, most just clam up), square off and yell at each other. They are sure they're making a difference, all of them.

The dam breaks, the folks hang their heads, then turn to go home.

But there is no home.

They made a difference, but not any difference that counts.

And there you have it, a sodden land and a sodden Constitution.

When in panic, when in doubt...

Run in circles, scream and shout.

See where that's gotten us.
 
it has gotten us to profiling as we awaken... and that begets more profiling and street anarchy... sooner than later it will get to sweeping the streets and the leftist enclave shelters with lead and fierce intent... doubt that it will take long... once it starts it would be over quickly... following that will be constant vigilance and formal managing of the election process to eliminate fraud and those who would instigate the same...
 
I don’t know how you guys can backflip enough to equate my anarcho-capitalism with communism. Just, please, don’t throw your back out or break a hip. I don’t want to have to pay for your medicaid bills

But I digress, I’ll fight right alongside all of you to get back to a constitutional republic. That would be leaps and bounds better than what washington is infecting the rest of the country with. And when that happens then we can argue about trying to privatize the rest of the previous .gov controlled services. Deal?
 
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perhaps you should just look at other forums for things that interest you about firearms ... really, no one is interested in engaging you on this subject henceforth... no value in it
 
perhaps you should just look at other forums for things that interest you about firearms ... really, no one is interested in engaging you on this subject henceforth... no value in it
I thought you believed in the first amendment? Or are you just like team blue and only want to live in your own bubble?
 
Well first of all calling out team blue is a big mistake since this forum is at least 50% team blue.

I allready have that t- shirt so yea carnal knowledge.

I support team blue with exception to misfits.

You would be better off leaving on your own accord.

That way people will not have to remind you that you are a total liberal piece of shit on a daily basis.
 
I would like to think that half of us here are LE officers and former military... wouldn't surprise me in the least on the military side... would a little bit at the 50% level for LE officers... but I am very happy if so.... would tell me what I have believed for some time.... that is that LE officers are on our side and at the very least would not take part in confiscation if the Dims got that powerful to try to pull it off...
 
The problem here is that politicians react in knee jerk fashion, protests are not about police, race or negro being beaten up , that was just a trigger that let loose the avalanche of pent up anger and frustration. Corona lockdowns simply pushed far to many folks to far,in an already unbalanced socio-economic system, then Nancy and Mitch robed everyone blind to tune of some 6000bilion to save the rich and 'political donor class' . 30+mio folks lost their jobs because of the corona lockdowns while the monied were saved on taxpayers dime from the crash that would and should have wiped out much of their wealth more than that FED has since september well before Corona kept the coke-fueled party going, to the stage were its holding the bottom and buying al the crap that should have blown up in investors faces.


We are already at a stage where a violent false flag operation is just about the only way to end the protests any time soon, something like killing dozen or more cops in one go or torching a police station with cops inside something horrific enough and captured live in video, only then can the admin wrestle back control with great public support.

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Ok, I gotta ask.... and maybe I missed a memo or something, but I saw the video of the older gentleman standing there when the crowd of police approached him. I have no idea what he said, or what he was standing there for. But I did see him pushed by the officer. And I saw him hit the deck, bleed, and be 'unattended to' while over the radio it was heard 'somebody call for a medic' (or whatever the term was, I can't recall).

My point being, in what Universe is it solidarity for everyone to quit because those two officers got suspended for their (alleged) actions? Or was that just an excuse for everyone to quit?

Don't get me wrong, I completely understand if the Law enforcers want to take a few days off to protect their own, and I'm not saying that is 'right'. But what I am asking though, is why/where/how can the whole group think that what that/those officers did was "ok"?

Again, if I've missed a memo or something, or the fact that the older gentleman was pulling a pin on a grenade or something.... then fine. I'm just missing a bit of context here where so-far, things don't add up or make sense to me.

Now, back to your regularly scheduled chaos, anarchy, mayhem, and vitriol espousing/condemning/supporting/quashing.

75 yo Man was a Professional Protester AND he was trying to scan/spoof the Electronics of both officers. Watch how determined he is to get his phone close enough to clone their Electronics.

Fuck him.
 
75 yo Man was a Professional Protester AND he was trying to scan/spoof the Electronics of both officers. Watch how determined he is to get his phone close enough to clone their Electronics.

Fuck him.

Agree. If you are dumb enough to fuck with the bull, you get the horn.
 
these Dim cities should be viewed as petri dishes of Dim human chaos... the super left, who has the intention to change our country into a Socialist state now are almost completely certain that standard ballot box reliance is a loser for them... they know that unless they can get universal mail in ballots for their corrupt and purposeful manipulation, they will need to completely destabilize the common status quo... and that is where eliminating Police Force dominance of crime comes in... they want the Chaos that will follow LE elimination... they want the population demanding some form of protection and that is where the Dim Communist plan will come forward... the left wants to call the right fascist... just wait until the left actually does exactly what Hitler and the Brown Shirts did..
 
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Holy shit...hahaha.

Anarchy and a "court system"...lol.

What is really meant here is "fall in line or else." No different than status quo, as long as its "your rules and your way", right?

FFS.

Lets not try to dress it up with pseudo intellectual use of fancy vocabulary...
 
75 yo Man was a Professional Protester AND he was trying to scan/spoof the Electronics of both officers. Watch how determined he is to get his phone close enough to clone their Electronics.

Fuck him.
Thank you for this clarification. That DEFINITELY sheds a new light and twist on the 'optics'.
 
In my opinion, Many police departments in big Communist power centers were basically given enough rope to hang themselves by the Communists in charge and well now they are about to see why the local Communists / Democrats / SJWs were so interested in filling their departments with rotten folks, chasing out the good ones and letting everyone get away with misconduct for some time.

You'll notice most of the "outcry" level abuse cases happen in big democrat controlled cities.

But also in my opinion, I don't think the end game is Anarchy, it's probably create enough trouble to provide the "solution" which is a communist top down controlled oppression force staffed by people brought in from other areas to keep the peons in line and obeying what they are told.

You have to make the public BEG for their new chains and beg they will...
Kinda Hegelian
 
Elected anarchist is an oxymoron, first and foremost. The literal definition of anarchy is: no rulers. That’s it, no more and no less. It doesn’t mean not living without rules or laws. It means living together, cooperating, and resolving conflict as peacefully as possible
“d”, you like Bourne. Cursory glance at his bio reveals Anti-Melting Pot stance re: the proper America. Utopian, yet containing a seed of truth that people naturally cluster. Governing homogeneous societies goes reasonably well no matter the form. history reveals the opposite to be true with heterogeneous populations your boy advocates. The US entrance into WW1 was stage-managed, and his stance against it would make good conversation. It is unfortunate that you fail to grasp the state of heightened Emotion people are feeling now, and thus come off as school-marmish and a perceived wet blanket. Ancient Germanic tribes tended to live on 10-15 acres per family, with a council of elders making rational decisions when needed. Perhaps this is the “anarchy” of which you speak ? the book definition of the word is not in play. We are seeing blood in the streets and the term Anarchy well conveys the gut-wrenching abhorrence of it Across the board. Don’t fuck with it right now. As to your anti-Fed stance,y ou have found a root cause. Seymour
 
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I thought you believed in the first amendment? Or are you just like team blue and only want to live in your own bubble?
I do believe in the First Amendment. The one that reads like this:
Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Since we are not Congress, and by extension the government, nothing that is prohibited by the Amendment applies to us a private citizens and private property owners.

We can shut you up and shut you down at will and you will have no recourse.
 
TLDR Summary: Have you met these people?

Small experiments in anarchical society clearly showed that the max upper limit was 200 people to function.

Once you have more than 200, the shooting starts in earnest.

And if you think about 200 people you know, you quickly realize that there is someone in your group of friends better off dead.

Yes, experiments in communal living can only support a small number of people that need to be more like ants than humans. They all work for the commune and have very little private property. One more time; this is not what I’m talking about.

I do believe in the First Amendment. The one that reads like this:


Since we are not Congress, and by extension the government, nothing that is prohibited by the Amendment applies to us a private citizens and private property owners.

We can shut you up and shut you down at will and you will have no recourse.

And what exactly do you mean by “shut me down”? You’re going to forcefully silence me for saying words that make your peepee sad? This is the exact reason why I think the state is immoral and evil, thank you for making my point

And for the record, I do think the constitution is a valuable document. I just think it is too easy to be corrupted by a state that is intent on seizing power at all costs. I also think the Articles of Confederation are a more limiting document, which is most likely why they were revised into the constitution to be easier to ignore
 
But also guys, thank you for staying with me here even though I can be quite abrasive. I’m thoroughly willing to be convinced so keep trying, but you have an uphill battle ahead of you. Even though the insults have been slung I will gladly buy beers if we ever meet in person. I have no problem with the contentious debate, even when it gets heated. I’m a mechanic so I have pretty thick skin and very calloused feelings
 
And what exactly do you mean by “shut me down”? You’re going to forcefully silence me for saying words that make your peepee sad?
Shut you down means take away opportunities for you to say what you want to say. That means on this forum, which is private property, and in any other place where we can exert influence as PRIVATE citizens. Whether what you say makes my peepee sad or not is immaterial. The fact that the internet is not a public forum means that it can be taken away from you at any time by whomever you pay to access it (go read your ISP's terms of service) OR by whomever owns the virtual platform that you're using to push your views (like this forum)

This is the exact reason why I think the state is immoral and evil, thank you for making my point
You're a fucking idiot. I'm not talking about using the power of government to silence you. I'm talking about using the very same power of private property that you love so much against you.

You see, you need to read the First Amendment again and again and again until you understand that nowhere in it does it prohibit private individuals and businesses from restricting the speech of others. It only prohibits the state from doing so.

You're no match for me.
 
When something you own breaks; you fix it.

When it's been taken away and it breaks; folks generally say fuckit, that's your problem now.

And they're right.
 
But also guys, thank you for staying with me here even though I can be quite abrasive. I’m thoroughly willing to be convinced so keep trying, but you have an uphill battle ahead of you. Even though the insults have been slung I will gladly buy beers if we ever meet in person. I have no problem with the contentious debate, even when it gets heated. I’m a mechanic so I have pretty thick skin and very calloused feelings
Memo; It looks like there are very few, if any here that have any interest in "convincing" you.

What, like you think that anyone here would have the greatest day of their life, if only they could "convince" you ? :rolleyes:

 
Memo; It looks like there are very few, if any here that have any interest in "convincing" you.

What, like you think that anyone here would have the greatest day of their life, if only they could "convince" you ? :rolleyes:

I'm wayyyyy past playing word games.
Time is spent better bettering your skills, knowledge and conditioning.
Better investment imho.
Commies are gonna commie, no point debating. They won't stop until they're made to stop.
Tick tock.
 
Those people will cry to thier demo god leaders that are clueless.

Thier leaders will blame President Trump.

DJT is in no way as big an ass as I am.

He might feel sorry for them. Or some kind of duty to help.


I would tell the dem cities, and the dem states to Eat Shit And Die, all of them, no fucks given.
 
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