Which backup-handgun for hunting?

Jayjay1

Gunny Sergeant
Full Member
Minuteman
Oct 30, 2018
753
376
Hey guys,
please don´t laugh at me.

I´m totally thorn between two handguns, which are very different.
It is about the Glock 32 in .357 Sig and the Ruger Redhawk 5,5" in .44 Magnum.

Why those two?
Well, my thoughts are for a light and small pistol, easy to carry, concealed as well, with enough stopping power for a hog (no bears around) and on the other hand the hand cannon, six-shooter, doing it all and some more, but heavy and bulky.

In my opinion both will do the job, and I like the idea of the Magnum, but then on the other hand mo´ammo and easier to carry.
I will have to drive with it in the car, and "pirsch" ("walkhunt" or stalk) some miles every time when hunting.

How would you decide?
:unsure:
 

W54/XM-388

Online Training Member
Supporter
Full Member
Minuteman
Supporter+
  • Oct 1, 2005
    12,177
    24,874
    Dallas, TX
    Hey guys,
    please don´t laugh at me.

    I´m totally thorn between two handguns, which are very different.
    It is about the Glock 32 in .357 Sig and the Ruger Redhawk 5,5" in .44 Magnum.

    Why those two?
    Well, my thoughts are for a light and small pistol, easy to carry, concealed as well, with enough stopping power for a hog (no bears around) and on the other hand the hand cannon, six-shooter, doing it all and some more, but heavy and bulky.

    In my opinion both will do the job, and I like the idea of the Magnum, but then on the other hand mo´ammo and easier to carry.
    I will have to drive with it in the car, and "pirsch" ("walkhunt" or stalk) some miles every time when hunting.

    How would you decide?
    :unsure:

    Longslide 10mm for the win.
     

    Jayjay1

    Gunny Sergeant
    Full Member
    Minuteman
    Oct 30, 2018
    753
    376
    Whichever you can shoot better in a defensive situation. Which one have you trained with and shot the most?
    Well, I once had a 44 Magnum, and I´ve shot some 357 Sig from a Glock 31.

    It is about the purchase, right now I don´t have either of them.
     

    Jayjay1

    Gunny Sergeant
    Full Member
    Minuteman
    Oct 30, 2018
    753
    376
    Longslide 10mm for the win.
    Well, that would be a summary of both, which makes it even worse.
    :cool:

    Bulky and not to be carried concealed, but not more ammo than the Glock 31.

    Actually I was cruising around the 10mm, but then found out, that the Glock 20 (which still is way bigger) doesn´t penetrate deeper than the 31.
    So I tilted the 10mil and went to the 357 Sig.
     

    GoForBroke

    Private
    Full Member
    Minuteman
    Oct 25, 2006
    324
    137
    Eastern Oregon
    Well, I once had a 44 Magnum, and I´ve shot some 357 Sig from a Glock 31.

    It is about the purchase, right now I don´t have either of them.
    Then I'd pick the one that's closest to the pistols you've trained with. When I went to Alaska and was hunting in grizzly areas I carried a 4" M29 loaded with 300 grain CastCores. Down here in the lower 48 I carry a M686 loaded with snakeshot and 125 hp for fishing and 180 gr Mags for big game black bear areas. I only have to be concerned with two legged threats, cougars, and wolves right now. I'd even carry a 9mm with 147gr +P's.
     

    Jayjay1

    Gunny Sergeant
    Full Member
    Minuteman
    Oct 30, 2018
    753
    376
    Guys, please, no other handguns.

    It will be a backup gun, not the primary one, I do carry a rifle.
    But for SP and some situations (crawling through the bush, etc.) I want an additional handgun.

    Glock 31 or Ruger Redhawk in 44 Magnum, nothing else.
     

    GoForBroke

    Private
    Full Member
    Minuteman
    Oct 25, 2006
    324
    137
    Eastern Oregon
    Guys, please, no other handguns.

    It will be a backup gun, not the primary one, I do carry a rifle.
    But for SP and some situations (crawling through the bush, etc.) I want an additional handgun.

    Glock 31 or Ruger Redhawk in 44 Magnum, nothing else.
    Have you owned or trained with a Glock? What handguns have you trained with? When I carried a Glock 23 I trained with that and nothing else due to the grip angle.
     

    W54/XM-388

    Online Training Member
    Supporter
    Full Member
    Minuteman
    Supporter+
  • Oct 1, 2005
    12,177
    24,874
    Dallas, TX
    Well, that would be a summary of both, which makes it even worse.
    :cool:

    Bulky and not to be carried concealed, but not more ammo than the Glock 31.

    Actually I was cruising around the 10mm, but then found out, that the Glock 20 (which still is way bigger) doesn´t penetrate deeper than the 31.
    So I tilted the 10mil and went to the 357 Sig.

    Try Underwood Extreme Penetrators in 10mm from a G40 and you'll notice you get plenty of penetration.
     

    Blue Sky Country

    Urban Cowboy
    Full Member
    Minuteman
  • From your choice list, I'd go with Ruger Redhawk or Blackhawk SA in .44 Magnum.

    Advantages of .44 Magnum revolvers:

    * With spare parts and basic hand tool kit, SA and DA revolvers are easily repairable in the field far from civilization.

    * Straight wall cartridge. Can be loaded to any power level you want.

    * Smokeless powder, black powder, or black powder substitutes.

    * Any type of bullet from LWC to JHP to polymer tip to hand cast from black powder molds.

    *.44 Mag and .44 Special cases.

    *.44 Black Powder magnum (full case of BP with bullet of your choice can still take down almost anything and are absolutely ADDICTIVE and FUN AS HELL to shoot, not to mention troll people at the range with those huge smoke clouds.

    * Revolvers in shoulder holsters look downright cool and badass and functional as all hell.

    Proud owner of a Ruger Vaquero in .357 Magnum here. With that, a 55lb recurve bow, spare parts for both, a good knife/machete, one can survive and thrive indefinitely in ANY wilderness for a prolonged time.
     
    Last edited:

    Maggot

    Let's Go Brandon.
    Supporter
    Full Member
    Minuteman
    Supporter+
  • Jul 27, 2007
    19,210
    18,648
    Virginia
    Don´t want to get to religious, but no more Smiff for me, sorry.
    Then find God and get one of these. I have one and its a sweet shooter.

    MM61167_1.jpg
     

    W54/XM-388

    Online Training Member
    Supporter
    Full Member
    Minuteman
    Supporter+
  • Oct 1, 2005
    12,177
    24,874
    Dallas, TX
    Guys, please, no other handguns.

    It will be a backup gun, not the primary one, I do carry a rifle.
    But for SP and some situations (crawling through the bush, etc.) I want an additional handgun.

    Glock 31 or Ruger Redhawk in 44 Magnum, nothing else.

    What can you get a good deal on?

    Ruger Super Redhawks hold their value well and tend to appreciate some depending on the deal you got
    Glock 31 is only going to devalue more than likely.

    But then the other issue is, what are you comfortable carrying around?

    A good .44 magnum revolver is a great all around pistol to have in your collection.
     
    • Like
    Reactions: FWoo45

    al22300

    Sergeant
    Full Member
    Minuteman
    Jul 10, 2010
    123
    107
    46
    Oklahoma
    Guys, please, no other handguns.

    It will be a backup gun, not the primary one, I do carry a rifle.
    But for SP and some situations (crawling through the bush, etc.) I want an additional handgun.

    Glock 31 or Ruger Redhawk in 44 Magnum, nothing else.
    In that case I would go with the Glock but as for me personally would still go with the 20 😆
    The gun needs to be lightish and handy or you will end up leaving it behind at times………in my experience.
     
    • Like
    Reactions: GoForBroke

    Jayjay1

    Gunny Sergeant
    Full Member
    Minuteman
    Oct 30, 2018
    753
    376
    The gun needs to be lightish and handy or you will end up leaving it behind at times………in my experience.
    That´s exactly one of my concernes with the 44 Magnum.
    Will I really carry it or will it rust in the safe?
     

    bmash

    Sergeant of the Hide
    Full Member
    Minuteman
    May 21, 2018
    232
    162
    Zachary, LA
    how would I decide? I guess by posting on gun forums😂, but seriously, the
    number of rounds, how quick you can get back on target, and will it stop the threat.
    I don’t have a 357 sig, so I am not familiar with the recoil, but I do have a 44 mag and Glock 20. Personally I’d go for more rounds and I assume less recoil, especially if you are comfortable with the 357 sig power to kill pigs. I get back on target quicker with my 10mm than with the 44 revolver, and can keep shooting 10 or 12 additional rounds.
     
    • Like
    Reactions: al22300

    GoForBroke

    Private
    Full Member
    Minuteman
    Oct 25, 2006
    324
    137
    Eastern Oregon
    In that case I would go with the Glock but as for me personally would still go with the 20 😆
    The gun needs to be lightish and handy or you will end up leaving it behind at times………in my experience.
    I agree if the pistol is too heavy then it'll end up back at camp sooner or later. A S&W M29 " was about as heavy as I wanted for a backup, but handled the 300 gr hardcast bullets fine. A 5.5" Ruger Redhawk would be way too heavy IMO when carrying a rifle, back pack, and all my gear. Pigs aren't that hard to kill with a well placed shot. A guide dropped a griz with a 9mm loaded with 147 gr. Not something I'd want but it worked. That's why I say pick something you shoot well. If it's a good deal between the two I'd spend more and get something you shoot well.
     

    hlee

    Sergeant
    Full Member
    Minuteman
  • Jul 14, 2012
    8,411
    11,244
    44
    TX
    If I ran up against a hog while hunting, I would shoot it with my rifle...
     
    • Like
    Reactions: kthomas

    nikerret

    Sergeant of the Hide
    Full Member
    Minuteman
    Jun 8, 2022
    114
    123
    Kansas
    GLOCK. Better for defense against persons and better for holding up to the elements.
     

    DeathBeforeDismount

    Pretty much Infantry
    Supporter
    Full Member
    Minuteman
    Nov 20, 2021
    1,934
    2,511
    West Coast
    44mag is a retarded suggestion unless you plan to hunt in Alaska. (you aint carrying one in Canada).

    a 9mm will be more than enough for most states except those with big blacks and big cats. Then I would step up to a 10mm, semi auto.

    backup guns while hunting are 99.99% for 2 legged critters.
     
    • Like
    Reactions: deersniper

    Jayjay1

    Gunny Sergeant
    Full Member
    Minuteman
    Oct 30, 2018
    753
    376
    Good points from all of you, except the one with the slingshot. :rolleyes:

    You kind of summed it up I guess.
    The little voice in my head said I should go with the 44 Magnum, but the Glock 32 makes more sense for my use.

    Thanks guys.
     

    nikerret

    Sergeant of the Hide
    Full Member
    Minuteman
    Jun 8, 2022
    114
    123
    Kansas
    I would suggest a G32 over a G31, but you said to stop going with something other than what was listed.

    Instead of a G32, I would go with a G23 and get a 357 Sig barrel, if interested. Unless you already have 357 Sig ammo, it’s stupid to get into that caliber, right now. 40 S&W is easier to find and less expensive. With the G23 or G32, you can run a 9mm conversion barrel, too.
     

    GoForBroke

    Private
    Full Member
    Minuteman
    Oct 25, 2006
    324
    137
    Eastern Oregon
    Good points from all of you, except the one with the slingshot. :rolleyes:

    You kind of summed it up I guess.
    The little voice in my head said I should go with the 44 Magnum, but the Glock 32 makes more sense for my use.

    Thanks guys.
    I'd take a look at the ammo offered too. For pigs/ hunting backup there aren't that many good loads/ ammo out there. A G32 is built on a G23 frame so between the two I'd get a G23 and shoot 180 gr 40 S&W. I haven't seen much besides a 125 gr JHP for 357 Sig. Or get a G19 and shoot Buffalo Bore's hardcast 147 gr. https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=389
     
    • Like
    Reactions: Ric O'shay

    mkollman74

    Quo Vadis?
    Supporter
    Full Member
    Minuteman
    Supporter+
  • Nov 5, 2009
    1,673
    335
    WA, USA

    Just read this last night, coincidentally. I went Glock because I can get a lot of rounds down range fast. Volume of tactically/practically accurate fire wins gunfights. That doesn’t change when your target has 4 legs…
     

    Maggot

    Let's Go Brandon.
    Supporter
    Full Member
    Minuteman
    Supporter+
  • Jul 27, 2007
    19,210
    18,648
    Virginia
    That´s exactly one of my concernes with the 44 Magnum.
    Will I really carry it or will it rust in the safe?
    With a GOOD holster the 44 magnum wont be an issue...once you get used to it, just dont get one of those long barreled monsters.
     

    Eli17L

    Gunny Sergeant
    Full Member
    Minuteman
    Jun 26, 2020
    635
    1,164
    New Mexico
    I used to carry my 629 but it But it seemed like I ran into 2 legged critters that concerned me more than any 4 legged so now I carry my glock loaded with Buffalo bore hard cast...
     

    hankpac

    Sergeant
    Full Member
    Minuteman
    Application rules for my decision making on this subject. I only walk about a mile from my quad to my stand during archery elk/deer season in Oregon. It happens that Bear and Cougar is also open at that time, and one or the other (bear far more frequently) will stroll through the kill zone on occasion. So... On my hip, I carry a .45 ACP, for close sudden work (hasn't happened), and under my left arm (for bear from 20-100 yds, 20 being from my stand to the ground, which is as close as I would let him get), is a 14" Contender pistol with 30/30 handloads, topped with a 4power pistol scope.
    In Texas, mostly the 45 with snake shot in the first one, and hollow points followup. Sig P220, ancient, trustworthy, and smooth. Old friend.
    If I was going to change the close up gun, it would be a 4" Ruger .44 mag.
     

    SouthFLShootin

    Supporter
    Supporter
    Full Member
    Minuteman
    Jan 8, 2019
    276
    598
    Glock FTW. I use a G40 MOS 10mm, but 357 sig should be fine. With handloads and good brass, a hot 10mm round will approach 900 ft/lbs of energy. Getting 15+1 of those in a mag and the fact I don't have to worry about the gun getting banged up is why it's so great.

    I shot a 100 lbs sow not too long ago with underwood's copper "penetrator" round that was within 10-15ft. Hit her once in the shoulder and one by her snout. Shoulder shot went through both sides and the one in her snout exited the back of her ear.
     

    91Eunozs

    Private
    Supporter
    Full Member
    Minuteman
  • Jun 9, 2013
    1,113
    5,370
    south central Texas
    G21 with 450 SMC hard cast loads and a heavier spring if anywhere near bear or cougar country. If I can’t get it done with 13+1 rounds of those hard cast pills, it ain’t gettin’ done. Not by me anyway…

    i-BHLSbL7-XL.jpg


    …otherwise plain old .45ACP in whatever flavor I’m already carrying…usually Barnes Tac XP or Federal hydrashok
     
    • Like
    Reactions: Blue Sky Country

    Butterburger

    Gunny Sergeant
    Full Member
    Minuteman
  • Dec 25, 2020
    539
    1,864
    Maidenhead
    I have used my 9mm for grouse while hunting elk with a bow and/or muzzle loader. It’s more for my peace of mind at night for bears though.
     

    TACC

    Major Hide Member
    Full Member
    Minuteman
  • Jan 10, 2019
    1,536
    1,398
    Well, that would be a summary of both, which makes it even worse.
    :cool:

    Bulky and not to be carried concealed, but not more ammo than the Glock 31.

    Actually I was cruising around the 10mm, but then found out, that the Glock 20 (which still is way bigger) doesn´t penetrate deeper than the 31.
    So I tilted the 10mil and went to the 357 Sig.
    I think it is also the ammo. I shoot 220 grain Hardcast ammo from Underwood ammo out of my 10mm. That 220 comes out screaming, is very accurate, and makes a serious hole in what ever it touches. There is no way that can compare to a 357 sig 125 grain +p, that i also shoot.
     

    n2ishun

    LightningTuTu
    Full Member
    Minuteman
  • Jan 2, 2022
    2,547
    4,208
    Kansas
    beer.com
    For a whole lotta years I carried a Superblackhawk in .44 mag when hunting.
    Never let me down, they don't jam, they don't misfire, and are accurate as all hell.

    Then I grew up.

    Now,I carry a .454 Casull 6 inch field grade.
    Because....what happens when your main rifle fucks up but you get this 100 yard shot on a trophy of a lifetime ?
    Are you seriously going to reach out with a weenie Glock (yes I own a Glock also) ?
    You don't need a scope on the thing, they only slow your aiming to pathetic level.
    Just learn how to shoot the damn thing and carry the handcannon.
    The first time you really need it you'll be glad it's not made of plastic.
     

    eca7891

    We the People
    Full Member
    Minuteman
    Nov 7, 2019
    1,725
    1,951
    A 10mm is more than ample for a hog.

    But imo there is no such thing as overkill either…..
     

    rjacobs

    Sergeant
    Full Member
    Minuteman
    Supporter+
  • Mar 10, 2013
    1,933
    1,398
    S&W 329PD crew checking in!

    Its light as a Glock, but shoots 44mag... so best of both worlds?

    Also it might break your hand...LOL.
     
    • Like
    Reactions: Huskydriver

    GoForBroke

    Private
    Full Member
    Minuteman
    Oct 25, 2006
    324
    137
    Eastern Oregon
    S&W 329PD crew checking in!

    Its light as a Glock, but shoots 44mag... so best of both worlds?

    Also it might break your hand...LOL.
    That's why I carried a 4" S&W Model 29 in Alaska. Enough weight to help me shoot 300 gr hardcast bullets well out to 50 yards. But light enough to carry ALL the time. I carry a M686 4" right now but am thinking of going back to a G23 again. Carry my 180 gr SXT's for EDC and 200 gr hardcast Buffalo Bore loads or my own handloads while hunting in bear country.
     

    rjacobs

    Sergeant
    Full Member
    Minuteman
    Supporter+
  • Mar 10, 2013
    1,933
    1,398
    That's why I carried a 4" S&W Model 29 in Alaska. Enough weight to help me shoot 300 gr hardcast bullets well out to 50 yards. But light enough to carry ALL the time. I carry a M686 4" right now but am thinking of going back to a G23 again. Carry my 180 gr SXT's for EDC and 200 gr hardcast Buffalo Bore loads or my own handloads while hunting in bear country.

    I carry Buffalo Bore lower recoil 255g that was developed for the 329PD. Its not bad, but its still not pleasant. I wouldnt want to shoot some HOT 300g shit out of this gun without a glove if even then. I put an X-frame grip on it to cover the back strap and put a lock delete kit in it as its known to lock itself under recoil LOL. Its a beast.
     
    • Like
    Reactions: GoForBroke

    GoForBroke

    Private
    Full Member
    Minuteman
    Oct 25, 2006
    324
    137
    Eastern Oregon
    I carry Buffalo Bore lower recoil 255g that was developed for the 329PD. Its not bad, but its still not pleasant. I wouldnt want to shoot some HOT 300g shit out of this gun without a glove if even then. I put an X-frame grip on it to cover the back strap and put a lock delete kit in it as its known to lock itself under recoil LOL. Its a beast.
    Yeah I've shot various lightweight framed S&W's and they aren't pleasant, to put it mildly lol. I like to practice a lot with loads I'm going to carry. When I carried the 44 mag for bear protection it's 300 gr CastCores were manageable in an all steel 4" M29. Your combo sounds good!