I want to tighten up the fit on my AR. Which is the better way to go,
the accu-wedge or those tension screws from J&P?
Thanks, Kevin
the accu-wedge or those tension screws from J&P?
Thanks, Kevin
Which do you recommend?
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Re: Which do you recommend?
^^this^^
i use one on mine, it wears out after a couple trips, but they are easy to come by and replace..
^^this^^
i use one on mine, it wears out after a couple trips, but they are easy to come by and replace..
Re: Which do you recommend?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jeepguy242</div><div class="ubbcode-body">^^this^^
i use one on mine, it wears out after a couple trips, but they are easy to come by and replace.. </div></div>
If your lower does not have a way to tighten it to the upper (Seekins Promo Insert here)
The ear plug does work well. If not the wedge all the way.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jeepguy242</div><div class="ubbcode-body">^^this^^
i use one on mine, it wears out after a couple trips, but they are easy to come by and replace.. </div></div>
If your lower does not have a way to tighten it to the upper (Seekins Promo Insert here)
The ear plug does work well. If not the wedge all the way.
Re: Which do you recommend?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BBJones</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Accu-wedges have been known to fail over time and dump pieces of themselves inside. Not something I would ever use.
I would just leave the play as is. <span style="color: #CC0000">It does not affect accuracy or function.</span> </div></div>
Wow the ignorance of such people.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BBJones</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Accu-wedges have been known to fail over time and dump pieces of themselves inside. Not something I would ever use.
I would just leave the play as is. <span style="color: #CC0000">It does not affect accuracy or function.</span> </div></div>
Wow the ignorance of such people.
Re: Which do you recommend?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Wow the ignorance of such people. </div></div>
What? Was it an ignorant statement to say that the fit of the upper to the lower has no effect on accuracy? I think the guy is right. It has no effect on accuracy. I've never seen one instance where taking the slop out of the receivers improved accuracy.
If you want to take the slop out, I've seen guys put o-rings around the front lug of the upper receiver. Personally, I wouldn't worry about it. In fact, I do recall seeing a few articles over the years that say that a little slop is good for accuracy because as the rifle heats up, there is less pressure on the upper that could cause parts to distort and cause a POI shift.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Wow the ignorance of such people. </div></div>
What? Was it an ignorant statement to say that the fit of the upper to the lower has no effect on accuracy? I think the guy is right. It has no effect on accuracy. I've never seen one instance where taking the slop out of the receivers improved accuracy.
If you want to take the slop out, I've seen guys put o-rings around the front lug of the upper receiver. Personally, I wouldn't worry about it. In fact, I do recall seeing a few articles over the years that say that a little slop is good for accuracy because as the rifle heats up, there is less pressure on the upper that could cause parts to distort and cause a POI shift.
Re: Which do you recommend?
The slop has zero effect. As long as the optics or sights are firmly attached you are good to go. Hell if you could take the lower off and still have a way to strike the firing pin it would shoot right where you aim it.
The slop has zero effect. As long as the optics or sights are firmly attached you are good to go. Hell if you could take the lower off and still have a way to strike the firing pin it would shoot right where you aim it.
Re: Which do you recommend?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TonyAngel</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Wow the ignorance of such people. </div></div>
What? Was it an ignorant statement to say that the fit of the upper to the lower has no effect on accuracy? I think the guy is right. It has no effect on accuracy. I've never seen one instance where taking the slop out of the receivers improved accuracy.
If you want to take the slop out, I've seen guys put o-rings around the front lug of the upper receiver. Personally, I wouldn't worry about it. In fact, I do recall seeing a few articles over the years that say that a little slop is good for accuracy because as the rifle heats up, there is less pressure on the upper that could cause parts to distort and cause a POI shift. </div></div>
Should have been more clear on my first earlier post. I Don't think it effects the accuracy of the weapon at all. I do however think a tight fit helps the shooter. I hate a gun with slop. It doesn't feel right and when you try to shoot the exact same way all the time I think it helps having a gun that has a tight fit. So I guess I understand both sides but when it comes down to the weapon taking the slop out just helps the "feel"
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TonyAngel</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Wow the ignorance of such people. </div></div>
What? Was it an ignorant statement to say that the fit of the upper to the lower has no effect on accuracy? I think the guy is right. It has no effect on accuracy. I've never seen one instance where taking the slop out of the receivers improved accuracy.
If you want to take the slop out, I've seen guys put o-rings around the front lug of the upper receiver. Personally, I wouldn't worry about it. In fact, I do recall seeing a few articles over the years that say that a little slop is good for accuracy because as the rifle heats up, there is less pressure on the upper that could cause parts to distort and cause a POI shift. </div></div>
Should have been more clear on my first earlier post. I Don't think it effects the accuracy of the weapon at all. I do however think a tight fit helps the shooter. I hate a gun with slop. It doesn't feel right and when you try to shoot the exact same way all the time I think it helps having a gun that has a tight fit. So I guess I understand both sides but when it comes down to the weapon taking the slop out just helps the "feel"
Re: Which do you recommend?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: strangedays</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BBJones</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Accu-wedges have been known to fail over time and dump pieces of themselves inside. Not something I would ever use.
I would just leave the play as is. <span style="color: #CC0000">It does not affect accuracy or function.</span> </div></div>
Wow the ignorance of such people. </div></div>
due tell about ignorance.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: strangedays</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BBJones</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Accu-wedges have been known to fail over time and dump pieces of themselves inside. Not something I would ever use.
I would just leave the play as is. <span style="color: #CC0000">It does not affect accuracy or function.</span> </div></div>
Wow the ignorance of such people. </div></div>
due tell about ignorance.
Re: Which do you recommend?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BBJones</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: strangedays</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BBJones</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Accu-wedges have been known to fail over time and dump pieces of themselves inside. Not something I would ever use.
I would just leave the play as is. <span style="color: #CC0000">It does not affect accuracy or function.</span> </div></div>
Wow the ignorance of such people. </div></div>
due tell about ignorance. </div></div>
Well I did tell almost an hour before you posted this. So the first post was right but this post of yours is a pure example of ignorance
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BBJones</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: strangedays</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BBJones</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Accu-wedges have been known to fail over time and dump pieces of themselves inside. Not something I would ever use.
I would just leave the play as is. <span style="color: #CC0000">It does not affect accuracy or function.</span> </div></div>
Wow the ignorance of such people. </div></div>
due tell about ignorance. </div></div>
Well I did tell almost an hour before you posted this. So the first post was right but this post of yours is a pure example of ignorance
Re: Which do you recommend?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: strangedays</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BBJones</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: strangedays</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BBJones</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Accu-wedges have been known to fail over time and dump pieces of themselves inside. Not something I would ever use.
I would just leave the play as is. <span style="color: #CC0000">It does not affect accuracy or function.</span> </div></div>
Wow the ignorance of such people. </div></div>
due tell about ignorance. </div></div>
Well I did tell almost an hour before you posted this. So the first post was right but this post of yours is a pure example of ignorance
</div></div>
Actually you got me. I typo'd "due" instead of "do"
I read your other post and it was all about how you (subjectively) like your rifles set up. The feel (subjective) you like.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: strangedays</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BBJones</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: strangedays</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BBJones</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Accu-wedges have been known to fail over time and dump pieces of themselves inside. Not something I would ever use.
I would just leave the play as is. <span style="color: #CC0000">It does not affect accuracy or function.</span> </div></div>
Wow the ignorance of such people. </div></div>
due tell about ignorance. </div></div>
Well I did tell almost an hour before you posted this. So the first post was right but this post of yours is a pure example of ignorance
Actually you got me. I typo'd "due" instead of "do"
I read your other post and it was all about how you (subjectively) like your rifles set up. The feel (subjective) you like.
Re: Which do you recommend?
This is something that has always bothered me. People talk about the importance of "driving" gas guns because of all the movement happening in the gun it's more difficult for the gun to behave the same way for each shot. Yet the slop between upper and lower receiver behaves perfectly consistent shot to shot...?
Please explain to another one of the ignorant.
This is something that has always bothered me. People talk about the importance of "driving" gas guns because of all the movement happening in the gun it's more difficult for the gun to behave the same way for each shot. Yet the slop between upper and lower receiver behaves perfectly consistent shot to shot...?
Please explain to another one of the ignorant.
Re: Which do you recommend?
The wedge does the opposite of what you want, you want to pull the receivers together not push them apart with a wedge.
Armalite makes an oversize front pin that works very well at reducing the wobble. The JP units work, but make take down slow and more of pain.
The Armalite pin is available on their website.
I personally hate having slop between the upper and lower, this is why I only use 1 brand of uppers and lowers when I build new guns now.
The wedge does the opposite of what you want, you want to pull the receivers together not push them apart with a wedge.
Armalite makes an oversize front pin that works very well at reducing the wobble. The JP units work, but make take down slow and more of pain.
The Armalite pin is available on their website.
I personally hate having slop between the upper and lower, this is why I only use 1 brand of uppers and lowers when I build new guns now.
Re: Which do you recommend?
It's funny that I'm reading this before I walk out the door to go shooting.
Just last night I was trying to install an accu-wedge into my DMPS SASS. I don't know if there are different versions (models) of the accu-wedge, but I couldn't get mine to fit at all. There isn't much "slop" in my SASS, but I figured I could easily throw away $4 if the accu-wedge didn't work....they are so cheap.
I don't know if they only work for AR-15s and not LR-308s, but I trimmed that thing until there wasn't hardly anything left. I just got frustrated and took it out. I do like the idea of the gun fitting really tight, but I think I'll just put a rubber o-ring in there to make it fit more snugly.
Long of the short: a DPMS brand accu-wedge did not work in my DPMS SASS.
It's funny that I'm reading this before I walk out the door to go shooting.
Just last night I was trying to install an accu-wedge into my DMPS SASS. I don't know if there are different versions (models) of the accu-wedge, but I couldn't get mine to fit at all. There isn't much "slop" in my SASS, but I figured I could easily throw away $4 if the accu-wedge didn't work....they are so cheap.
I don't know if they only work for AR-15s and not LR-308s, but I trimmed that thing until there wasn't hardly anything left. I just got frustrated and took it out. I do like the idea of the gun fitting really tight, but I think I'll just put a rubber o-ring in there to make it fit more snugly.
Long of the short: a DPMS brand accu-wedge did not work in my DPMS SASS.
Re: Which do you recommend?
I had one in my DPMS and had to trim it way down too, but it did eliminate the slop for me which drove me nuts. I don't know enough about AR's to give a yay or nay on it but I do know my slop was gone and the gun shot better than I could so I left it.
I had one in my DPMS and had to trim it way down too, but it did eliminate the slop for me which drove me nuts. I don't know enough about AR's to give a yay or nay on it but I do know my slop was gone and the gun shot better than I could so I left it.
Re: Which do you recommend?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AK-Bandit</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Foam ear plug
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How?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AK-Bandit</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Foam ear plug
How?
Re: Which do you recommend?
I have used an accu wedge but to be honest I haven't really had a loose AR! Just me 2 cents!! The wedge I bought is still in the bag!!
I have used an accu wedge but to be honest I haven't really had a loose AR! Just me 2 cents!! The wedge I bought is still in the bag!!
Re: Which do you recommend?
I think that others might have already said it but that loose upper and lower fit will not affect accuracy one bit. I jsut dont like the idea of a accu wedge getting lose and possible creating an issue. Why fix what is not broken!
I think that others might have already said it but that loose upper and lower fit will not affect accuracy one bit. I jsut dont like the idea of a accu wedge getting lose and possible creating an issue. Why fix what is not broken!
