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Who is David Chipman?



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I guess, you just don't understand my thinking. It's WHEN it starts to leave the "commune", is when the problems start. Mac
No, I understand perfectly and I agree with that. I’m sure we also agree on measures to be taken if they start being aggressive to other residents in their respective areas. Where it seems we disagree is before that starts to happen.

I understand being skeptical and even arguing against a group of people wanting to start a new commune near you. But if they do get it started, do you;

a) act openly hostile to them right away
b) avoid and ignore them as much as possible
c) proceed cautiously optimistic and at least act cordially towards them when you do interact
d) start making plans to move right away

I don’t know enough about real world examples to say definitively how I would react so I’d probably say C right now. I just know it’s really difficult to keep a commune running long term for obvious reasons. If any of them start losing members to local politics and turning the area to shit I would definitely put up a pretty hard fight before they even got off the ground but that’s something I’d need to look into and worry about if it ever happens near me
 
No, I understand perfectly and I agree with that. I’m sure we also agree on measures to be taken if they start being aggressive to other residents in their respective areas. Where it seems we disagree is before that starts to happen.

I understand being skeptical and even arguing against a group of people wanting to start a new commune near you. But if they do get it started, do you;

a) act openly hostile to them right away
b) avoid and ignore them as much as possible
c) proceed cautiously optimistic and at least act cordially towards them when you do interact
d) start making plans to move right away

I don’t know enough about real world examples to say definitively how I would react so I’d probably say C right now. I just know it’s really difficult to keep a commune running long term for obvious reasons. If any of them start losing members to local politics and turning the area to shit I would definitely put up a pretty hard fight before they even got off the ground but that’s something I’d need to look into and worry about if it ever happens near me
You do realize, I was referring to the "commieizm" part of this conversation.
I have no problem with communes, and people doing their "thing".
I treat all people with respect, and try to keep an open mind to most things around me. But, when it comes to "commieizm", I've got no use for it in my Country. I would think, I would have a lot of Patriots that feel the same way, and be on my side. Mac
 
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You do realize, I was referring to the "commieizm" part of this conversation.
I have no problem with communes, and people doing their "thing".
I treat all people with respect, and try to keep an open mind to most things around me. But, when it comes to "commieizm", I've got no use for it in my Country. I would think, I would have a lot of Patriots that feel the same way, and be on my side. Mac
Yes, collectivism, of any form, being pushed by the force of the state needs to be fought anywhere and everywhere. I’m pretty sure you know my thoughts about this as well
 


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Oh Newtown.
the place where they bulldozed the entire school after the “shooting “
The place where the parents of “dead” children laugh before their interviews
Etc

Seems about as true as the Vegas shooter being the trigger puller and not dead before any shooting started.
 
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I’m not saying you guys are wrong. But you run the risk of becoming the thing you hate. People living their own lives and not hurting others deserve to be left alone, no matter how different they live.

I'm not opposed to communal living - communal etc etc etc. People should be free to live their lives in a commune if they choose.

I'm opposed to Marxism. Violently so - BECAUSE Marxism states that mass murder is the only way forward. To quote Marx:

You must, therefore, confess that by "individual" you mean no other person than the bourgeois, than the middle-class owner of property. This person must indeed, be swept out of the way, and made impossible. (Published by Progress Publishers, Moscow, 1973 edition, page 66)

So when someone says "I'm a Marxist!" you should reply "Mass Murderer, eh?"

They intend to shoot you and take your children. All to create a lovely new society like Venezuela, China, or the Soviet Union.

AKA - they intend to shoot me so I'm not in the way anymore when they burn down the house and business I built.

The right answer to Marxism is only: "Hey, how about FUCK YOU!"
 
Seems he's a deceitful swarmy bastard.
Maybe the FauxBI doesn't want him to get the job? You would like to believe that they would have covered his tracks if they wanted him in the office.
 
They'll have to wait till he takes the podium,several lines into his speech.That way he'd be completely static,obviously at his most exposed.
 
Didn’t Bernie come from a commune? Got kicked out because he never worked and sat around talking about politics?
When I run into a budding Communist, I always ask them what seems appealing about 7 16 hour work days in a row every week?

You'd be surprised how they pucker up when you tell them that in a Communist country everybody works all the time and if you complain you are shot. Most of them are so ignorant they really didn't understand it that way.

I think the core issue with Marxism is the pseudo-religious aspects of it. If Marx and Engels had been factually correct about their theories of human nature, then Marxism would be a quite valid approach to a just society.

A similar analogy is a religion that kills every other baby as a ritualistic sacrifice at an altar. Stabs them to death right there, and those babies go immediately to Heaven and live a life of luxury forever.

Would it be evil if it was factually correct? The Marxist is the priest of this type of religion who is telling you that 'oh yeah...we are right. trust us...it'll be fine. Ignore my boner, I get that way when I'm stabbin kids."

And it has never been OK - its always been rivers of dead followed by misery and suffering.
 
Have to wonder if he was just the smoke screen to get the smart, crafty SOB with no baggage they really want to slide right through.
 
This is good news. Now if they could just dissolve the entire atf
 
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David Chipman was one of the murderers at Waco. Yes, they intentionally set out to kill those people as a publicity stunt.

The BATF obtained a warrant based party on complaints of David Koresh having sex with underage girls. The BATF has no child endangerment function, no reason to even try and investigate this.

The BATF knew for a 100% certainty that nearly EVERY DAY David Koresh drove into town to get the mail and regularly stopped at a nearby store for ice cream. To arrest him did not require a raid.

Another claim of the BATF was that, "they had reports of machine gun fire on the property". It was used for obtaining the warrant. They FORGOT TO MENTION, that there was a licensed class III gun dealer on the property. Making this point moot.

FBI and BATF "snipers" fired on anyone trying to leave the BURNING building, including women and children. There is actual satellite footage of it and you can clearly see dozens of muzzle flashes from concealed positions. The FBI later claimed the "muzzle flashes" were simply the sun glinting off the barrels of rifles. The Texas Rangers at the scene recovered something like 70 pieces of spent brass from the location where the "sun was glinting" off the barrel of Lon Horiuchi's gun barrel.

The BATF notified every local news station of the pending raid more than two hours before the raid to insure they had media coverage. In their excitement to be rewarded for the stupid raid, they forgot to ask the media to keep it a secret. Several news stations contacted David Koresh for a statement on the pending raid. The Davidians had advance notice of the raid.

The BATF actually killed most of their own people. They can be clearly scene shooting their own men to death on the second floor.

This man is exactly what I have mentioned several times. He does not care about the law only enforcing the law. The day they make it legal for him to murder Americans and seize their property, he will don his swastika armband and get to killing Americans with glee. He is a socialist lackey.

Years ago at a gun show a guy was selling copies of the warrant, post fire investigation reports from the Texas Dept of Public Safety and their probable cause affidavits. It was $3 bucks to cover the printing, so I bought them and read them while watching my buddies table. It was eye opening.
 
Biden picked him because he hates people having guns and he hates black people which falls inline with Biden's values.
 
This is good news. Now if they could just dissolve the entire atf
I'm not sure they thought he had a chance to get approved. I think his nomination was to distract from other things. Look for a move on braces next. The Obama WH needs a victory on something.
Have to wonder if he was just the smoke screen to get the smart, crafty SOB with no baggage they really want to slide right through.
That was exactly my thought too.
 
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David Chipman was one of the murderers at Waco. Yes, they intentionally set out to kill those people as a publicity stunt.

The BATF obtained a warrant based party on complaints of David Koresh having sex with underage girls. The BATF has no child endangerment function, no reason to even try and investigate this.

The BATF knew for a 100% certainty that nearly EVERY DAY David Koresh drove into town to get the mail and regularly stopped at a nearby store for ice cream. To arrest him did not require a raid.

Another claim of the BATF was that, "they had reports of machine gun fire on the property". It was used for obtaining the warrant. They FORGOT TO MENTION, that there was a licensed class III gun dealer on the property. Making this point moot.

FBI and BATF "snipers" fired on anyone trying to leave the BURNING building, including women and children. There is actual satellite footage of it and you can clearly see dozens of muzzle flashes from concealed positions. The FBI later claimed the "muzzle flashes" were simply the sun glinting off the barrels of rifles. The Texas Rangers at the scene recovered something like 70 pieces of spent brass from the location where the "sun was glinting" off the barrel of Lon Horiuchi's gun barrel.

The BATF notified every local news station of the pending raid more than two hours before the raid to insure they had media coverage. In their excitement to be rewarded for the stupid raid, they forgot to ask the media to keep it a secret. Several news stations contacted David Koresh for a statement on the pending raid. The Davidians had advance notice of the raid.

The BATF actually killed most of their own people. They can be clearly scene shooting their own men to death on the second floor.

This man is exactly what I have mentioned several times. He does not care about the law only enforcing the law. The day they make it legal for him to murder Americans and seize their property, he will don his swastika armband and get to killing Americans with glee. He is a socialist lackey.

Years ago at a gun show a guy was selling copies of the warrant, post fire investigation reports from the Texas Dept of Public Safety and their probable cause affidavits. It was $3 bucks to cover the printing, so I bought them and read them while watching my buddies table. It was eye opening.

That guy selling the copies of the warrant et/al might have been Timothy McVeigh if it was long ago enough.
 
who?
You mean the chipmunk looking fuck who burned women and children and took a trophy photo


Never heard of her.


Some names are not worth speaking, same way I never capitalize the c in china, it purely out of Disrespect