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Cause Fuck You that's why . Or at least that's the message that was sent to the King .
Free Bon Bons and Govt. cheese?
That same message needs to be sent to the new commie VA state government, one way or another.
Gun confiscation...
That's what literally started the shooting but underlying those events was a people feeling mistreated but their government and made to feel like 2nd class citizens
That's what literally started the shooting but underlying those events was a people feeling mistreated but their government and made to feel like 2nd class citizens
Tea?
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Dental care products!
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Dental care products!
Gun confiscation...
That was the straw that broke the camel's back... Or the tremor that set the avalanche off.
That is what every child needs to learn again in schools...
That was the straw that broke the camel's back... Or the tremor that set the avalanche off.
That is what every child needs to learn again in schools...
Gun confiscation
you got to fight for your right to party . ??
Increasing amount of taxes and tyranny.
The constitution basically outlines exactly what caused it, in that, it now prohibits those same things.
The constitution basically outlines exactly what caused it, in that, it now prohibits those same things.
You don't get to tell us what to do, Jimmy.
Myths of the American Revolution
A noted historian debunks the conventional wisdom about America’s War of Independence
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/myths-of-the-american-revolution-10941835/
Freedom
I am telling anyone what to think.
I asked for YOUR optinion, not someone else’s.
Thanks for actually reading the question.
Edit- not got missed in the original reply.
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Respect goes along way Junior .
Edit : Don't lead with your chin .
"WE" left the "Kingdom" and we were done with the kings shit. See where I'm going with this? Mac
I respect no man unable to form his own opinion without being lead by others
Another word for that is sheeple.
To free the trannies and to defeat the evil king dick Cheney so that we can piss in whatever outhouse we wanted, whether in the girl scouts or Boy Scouts or zee scouts and to bring about the coming of blackjesus.
This! Had it not been for a very ill timed raid that went all sideways and squirrelly in the worst possible way, we would still be protesting taxes in between stanzas of God Save the Queen.
Patriots spread the gasoline and then Gen. Gage sent Maj. Pitcairn out to play with matches.
The Brits seriously misjudged the prevailing mood and the resolve of those who objected to military rule by an occupation army.
From their perspective they were just taking the next reasonable toward common-sense yada, yada, yada.
As they marched toward Concord, their cadence was reputed to have been;
It's for the children.
If it only saves one life.
I can't tell if this is your response to the OP's question or a personal note to him. *totes confused*
Faster horses, younger women, older whisky, and more money.....
Is that your Christmas list?
Gun control was the trigger.
People control was the pressure applied to that trigger.
Taxes actually figure quite low on the causes scale. Sorry fellas but please let me explain.
The Sugar Act outlawed the importation of anything but English sugar. American script currency (which worked well here because the peasant classes that were sent here had not gold and silver to trade with) was outlawed because the crown couldn't tax it. The Stamp Act wasn't a stamp that you bought, it was stamped paper that could only be stamped in London, effectively outlawing the production of paper in America as it had to be sent to London to be stamped and then sent back doubling the shipping cost of paper that didn't need to be shipped in the first place. The Tea tax again only applied to non-English shipping companies which is why they dumped it in the sea. As a side note, John Hancock offered to pay for the tea out of his own pocket to keep the port open and the men of Boston at work but was refused. The Quartering act which effectively disarmed entire people and left them to the whims of corrupt leadership. (i will elaborate in the next post) When the Massachusetts Bay Company board of directors (we would call it the legislature) asked for a redress of these and other grievances the Crown's response was to disband that legal body and appoint General Gage as military governor and ordered him to not redress their grievances but rather reduce their capacity to resist which he tried by what we call the powder alarms, ie the confiscation of ball, powder, and muskets. The Battle of Lexington and Concord was a powder alarm gone violent.
People control was the pressure applied to that trigger.
Taxes actually figure quite low on the causes scale. Sorry fellas but please let me explain.
The Sugar Act outlawed the importation of anything but English sugar. American script currency (which worked well here because the peasant classes that were sent here had not gold and silver to trade with) was outlawed because the crown couldn't tax it. The Stamp Act wasn't a stamp that you bought, it was stamped paper that could only be stamped in London, effectively outlawing the production of paper in America as it had to be sent to London to be stamped and then sent back doubling the shipping cost of paper that didn't need to be shipped in the first place. The Tea tax again only applied to non-English shipping companies which is why they dumped it in the sea. As a side note, John Hancock offered to pay for the tea out of his own pocket to keep the port open and the men of Boston at work but was refused. The Quartering act which effectively disarmed entire people and left them to the whims of corrupt leadership. (i will elaborate in the next post) When the Massachusetts Bay Company board of directors (we would call it the legislature) asked for a redress of these and other grievances the Crown's response was to disband that legal body and appoint General Gage as military governor and ordered him to not redress their grievances but rather reduce their capacity to resist which he tried by what we call the powder alarms, ie the confiscation of ball, powder, and muskets. The Battle of Lexington and Concord was a powder alarm gone violent.
Good for the economy!
Taxation without Representation
The French Acadian region of Canada was ceded to England by France as a condition of peace from a war. The Acadian people were forced to swear a vow of fealty to the English crown, a vow they kept despite the fact that France and England went at it again in the Seven Years war. The British governor wanted to move Englishmen into his province and wanted the Acadian peoples' land so he sent the army out on "maneuvers" and they camped in the town. Each home had to house one soldier who had orders to rise early in the morning before the Acadians did and take the muskets from the home. Some weeks later the army came back and forced all the able bodied men and boys onto ships and scattered them randomly throughout the empire. Later all the women and children were also scattered the same way. Less than one in ten of those families ever got back together. Our founding fathers were young when this happened but they witnessed it first hand. The French quarters of cities like Baltimore, Philly, New Orleans, etc were filled with agony as these poor people suffered and their neighbors struggled to help them.
It's really sad, but inspires me to say with acute determination "FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS"
It's really sad, but inspires me to say with acute determination "FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS"
tyranny (freedom from it)
We didn't like those stupid wigs the English wore.....
Somebody let the British flag touch the ground.
Yep...the colonists (soon to be Americans) we’re getting a bit careless, letting it fall to the ground while wiping their asses with it.
The Germans attacked Pearl Harbor
Distance and conflicting interest.
It is rather interesting to read the responses on here. The subject of taxation comes up regularly, but it was low down on the list of around a score of grievances listed by those 56 men as the reasons for separation.
I happen to have a facsimile of the original here with me and feel it appropriate to list the reasons for the separation that they gave. That governments should not be changed for light and transient causes, but when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them (the people) under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty to alter or abolish it.
Here are the grievances committed by the tyrant:
He impeded the passage of necessary laws
He demanded the surrender of rights before he would pass laws for the people
He called together the legislature at inconvenient locations so as to render it impossible for them to do business
He repeatedly dissolved the legislatures for opposing his tyranny with manly firmness, thus exposing the State to dangers
He hindered immigration and the expansion of the colonies
He refused assent to laws establishing judiciary powers, thus impeding justice
He made judges dependent on his good pleasure for their tenure and pay
He increased the number and sent swarms of bureaucrats to America to bleed the people dry with regulation
He quartered armies in the states in time of peace without legislative consent
He endeavored to render the military superior to the civil power
He joined with Parliament to subject the colonists to a system of laws contrary to those guaranteed to them as Englishmen
He quartered large amounts of troops among the populace
He protected said troops from punishment for injustices committed against the populace
He cut off their trade with the world
He imposed taxes without their consent
He deprived them of the right of trial by jury
He transported them back to England to answer for made up charges
He abolished English law in an neighboring colony and instituted his arbitrary rule, to make an example as well as to effect a like result
in the American colonies
He removed their charters and fundamentally altered their forms of government
He suspended their legislatures, and declared that they should be ruled instead by him and Parliament
He abdicated his government of the colonies by declaring them out of his protection and waging war against them
He plundered their seas, ravaged their coasts, burnt their towns, and destroyed the lives of the people
He is importing large groups of mercenary armies
He has captured colonists on the seas and forced them to bear arms against their home
He has incited domestic insurrections and encouraged Indian ones
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It seems like quite a lot to reduce to just a sentence or two, doesn't it?
And taxation is not given much thought compared to other grievances.
I happen to have a facsimile of the original here with me and feel it appropriate to list the reasons for the separation that they gave. That governments should not be changed for light and transient causes, but when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them (the people) under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty to alter or abolish it.
Here are the grievances committed by the tyrant:
He impeded the passage of necessary laws
He demanded the surrender of rights before he would pass laws for the people
He called together the legislature at inconvenient locations so as to render it impossible for them to do business
He repeatedly dissolved the legislatures for opposing his tyranny with manly firmness, thus exposing the State to dangers
He hindered immigration and the expansion of the colonies
He refused assent to laws establishing judiciary powers, thus impeding justice
He made judges dependent on his good pleasure for their tenure and pay
He increased the number and sent swarms of bureaucrats to America to bleed the people dry with regulation
He quartered armies in the states in time of peace without legislative consent
He endeavored to render the military superior to the civil power
He joined with Parliament to subject the colonists to a system of laws contrary to those guaranteed to them as Englishmen
He quartered large amounts of troops among the populace
He protected said troops from punishment for injustices committed against the populace
He cut off their trade with the world
He imposed taxes without their consent
He deprived them of the right of trial by jury
He transported them back to England to answer for made up charges
He abolished English law in an neighboring colony and instituted his arbitrary rule, to make an example as well as to effect a like result
in the American colonies
He removed their charters and fundamentally altered their forms of government
He suspended their legislatures, and declared that they should be ruled instead by him and Parliament
He abdicated his government of the colonies by declaring them out of his protection and waging war against them
He plundered their seas, ravaged their coasts, burnt their towns, and destroyed the lives of the people
He is importing large groups of mercenary armies
He has captured colonists on the seas and forced them to bear arms against their home
He has incited domestic insurrections and encouraged Indian ones
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It seems like quite a lot to reduce to just a sentence or two, doesn't it?
And taxation is not given much thought compared to other grievances.
It really is incredible how point-blank and stern the Declaration is. There is no doubt these guys were committing treason (against the crown). This was truly the point of no return for them. I hope that I and the rest of the Deplorables have this same resolve.
The American revolution began in 1763 when the people were tired of taxation without representation. The incidents of violent protest ran up until the War for Independence began in 1776. Noting two very distinct parts of history, one can safely say we are in a very high state of revolution right now. Violence is only a short way down the road to all out insurrection.
They weren’t tired of it in 1763, Grenville introduced the taxes in that year to pay for the defense of the colonies. That was the original cause of the downward spiral.
Arrogance, same as today...
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