Winchester or Remington ???

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I have been looking at a Remington BDL and a Winchester Coyote lately to build off of for a future varmint rifle. My intentions are to only rebarrel, have action trued up, bedded and trigger work done to it some day. 1 of the 2 is to be built as lite as it can in 243. I like to do a lot of walking and still hunting so i do not want to lug around a boat anchor. I am leaning towards the Winchester for some unknown reason. I have heard the actions being built today are alot nicer than in the recent past. Would like some comments and some suggestions that you have and for those who have a Winchester, what do ya think and how well do you like them.....THANKS......DAN
 

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The new Winchesters are built by FN. It may cost a lil more to have the Winchester action rebarreled since it'll require a clearance cut for the extractor.
 

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I'd get the winchester. Between the two Winchester/FN actions are better. There is better aftermarket support for the Remington but in regards to overall quality you'll be better off with the Winchester.
 

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+1 for Winnie.

I like it better than my Remington 700's
 

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I have both a Remington 700 and a Winchester Model 70.
I prefer the Winchester.
 

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I will tell you this.... the Winchesters SUCK as finding optic bases for... there are about 4 or 5 different hole patterns... which can get VERY frustrating to get the right one...

But all in all... its a personal preference... I have a couple of each and like them all.

Matt.
 

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I just got an FN SPR A1, I own 2 Rem 700s, one 7mm mag and 700 SP 308. I just scratch my head at the push feed thing, but I REALLY like the trigger shoe on the FN. I also like how you can take the FN Bolt apart to clean it.

Accuracy? Dunno, I bet in the right hands they would all perform about the same. I do really well with the FN SPR, and I think that is just the stock being so much more comfortable than the 700 SP.

I am a terrible gun evaluator though, I generally like just about everything, minus my desert eagle 44 mag. Stupid boat anchor.
 

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Go with the FN SPR action off CDNN sports for 350 and build a rifle around that. You'll be under 2 grand for a very good shooting stick. And it'll be what you want.

xdeano
 

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I would suggest at least looking at the Savage 10 Predator Max I. The regular Predator is cheaper, lighter, a tad shorter, and lacks the Accue-Stock. A standard Predator .223 has been shooting well in our more recent FV200 Matches.
 

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Greg, i have a Savage 10 precision carbine in 223 and love it. Shoots great with the 55gr. v-max factory ammo i bought to site it in. Going to work some loads up and change out the trigger and i bet it will get better yet. Just can not get used to the trigger. I am going to call SSS and order 1 of his triggers and try it out. Looking for something different this time and in a 243. On your post for the hide rifle project, I would love to see them do a Savage build. I would be in for that. Like to see how it would stack up to the other builds. I think you would be very surprized.
 

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Chevrolet. Oh wait, wrong debate. Not much difference in the argument between the trucks and the guns though. Both get the job done and have their attributes. Get your hands on a couple of different models at local stores, including the Savage and see which one suits you. The Remington is definitely easier to find aftermarket parts for, but I would not let that be the only point that would sale me to buying a Remington. You will also find it a little easier to find a gunsmith that will work on a Remington.
 

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I have both and they both have good and bad points. Its a lot easier to get parts for a remmy but you can still get them for a Winny you just cant be as brand picky.

My next build will be on a winny, thats only because i have an action i picked up pretty cheap. If you want to go the winny route and plan to use a BDM try picking up an old W670 without a floorplate as a starting point. They are easier to find as a bargain in australia but having said that i have picked up a few good M70's as well.
 

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Re: Winchester or Remington ???

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Alderleet</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=5&t=229541

I know its a BARF15 link, but its a good comparison.

Take a gander at the quality of the recievers.

that thread was one of the main reasons i didnt go with remington or savage </div></div>

So what fountain of knowledge did you glean from that post on Barf15. Please enlighten us, since at least 80% of the membership here uses Rem 700's, so tell us why the quality of our receivers generally suck, and why your brand is superior.

Facts, and figures please.

Thanks,

Bob
 

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Its personal preference, but the little things really stick out when you look at a receiver naked.

Just from the pics, and readings on here, the extractor on the M70 is a hell of alot better.

To me, the flat bottom receiver of the M70 seems designed better. The rem receiver looks like it was just spun on a lathe..

The fact the recoil lug on the M70 isnt a steel washer jammed between the barrel and receiver is another quality touch I notice instantly.

The other thing i notice is that the Winchester bolt handle isnt *soldered* on like the remington.


Again, these are just opinions that i've gathered. good thing im the consumer, because if i didnt have a choice, i'd hate life
 

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Less filling / tastes great.

....now back to the arts.