I'm looking for something with good dexterity (shooting, handling smaller equipment...etc.) in sub 40 degree weather. I've used Hatch Winter Specialist which are decent. I'd like to hear what some of you guys are using.
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Re: Winter Gloves
I like flight gloves for the dexterity. By themselves they are good for me down to freezing. I have some silk liners I wear under them which is fine down to about 20.
If you have to remain stationary for long periods add 10 degrees to my temperatures stated above.
I like flight gloves for the dexterity. By themselves they are good for me down to freezing. I have some silk liners I wear under them which is fine down to about 20.
If you have to remain stationary for long periods add 10 degrees to my temperatures stated above.
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For a true winter glove, several out there similar to these, Outdoor Research Alibi; softshell with a light lining and leather palm. I wear these all winter performing multiple tasks that require dexterity in high stakes game of climbing.
I use cheap fleece gloves too. I buy them one size small so I have no extra fleece on the finger tips, tight means good feel and dexterity. I run dots and lines of Seamgrip on the fingers and palm. I use these down well below zero.
PS 50 or 100 gloves sometimes too, I still run seamgrip and get them small.
For a true winter glove, several out there similar to these, Outdoor Research Alibi; softshell with a light lining and leather palm. I wear these all winter performing multiple tasks that require dexterity in high stakes game of climbing.
I use cheap fleece gloves too. I buy them one size small so I have no extra fleece on the finger tips, tight means good feel and dexterity. I run dots and lines of Seamgrip on the fingers and palm. I use these down well below zero.
PS 50 or 100 gloves sometimes too, I still run seamgrip and get them small.
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How snug do you want your gloves to be? I ask because I purchase mine a little bit oversized, and have problems with cold hands (and feet) as well. I havent been able to get comfortable with mittens or their lack of dexterity.
How snug do you want your gloves to be? I ask because I purchase mine a little bit oversized, and have problems with cold hands (and feet) as well. I havent been able to get comfortable with mittens or their lack of dexterity.
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I have bad peripheral circulation and some prior cold injury in my hands, so my warmth requirements are significant.
For above freezing, I like Mechanicswear cold weather gloves. They are clearly all about dexterity. I use them for rifle matches down to around the freezing mark (and I don't shoot matches anymore when it gets any colder).
For colder weather hunting (it was around 21F yesterday in my deerhunting ground blind), compromises don't work for me. I need two (at least) pairs of gloves. Inner liners, usually silk ski glove liners, and a pair of very bullky, oversized insulated five-finger shells. The key attribute favors best blood circulation. Any circulation restriction is a nono for me.
Also, when I was a kid in Scouts, the leaders would tell us that if our hands and feet were cold, we should put on our hats. That's no joke. Heat loss through the sclap and ears is disproportionately greater (i.e., superficial head wounds bleed far more, and for good reason). This draws away core heat, making peripheral heat loss begin at a lower base temp.
Greg
I have bad peripheral circulation and some prior cold injury in my hands, so my warmth requirements are significant.
For above freezing, I like Mechanicswear cold weather gloves. They are clearly all about dexterity. I use them for rifle matches down to around the freezing mark (and I don't shoot matches anymore when it gets any colder).
For colder weather hunting (it was around 21F yesterday in my deerhunting ground blind), compromises don't work for me. I need two (at least) pairs of gloves. Inner liners, usually silk ski glove liners, and a pair of very bullky, oversized insulated five-finger shells. The key attribute favors best blood circulation. Any circulation restriction is a nono for me.
Also, when I was a kid in Scouts, the leaders would tell us that if our hands and feet were cold, we should put on our hats. That's no joke. Heat loss through the sclap and ears is disproportionately greater (i.e., superficial head wounds bleed far more, and for good reason). This draws away core heat, making peripheral heat loss begin at a lower base temp.
Greg
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When I was working outside in AK keeping the core warm enough that the body doesn't start limiting circulation is key to warm hands, properly dressed, well rested, fed and hydrated I could go without gloves working with steel tools for prolonged periods into the twenties, and could find something to keep myhands warm even at -40, take one of those away and I was gloving up in the forties, and miserable in anything below 0.
OR makes pretty amazing thin gloves, from my brief experience with them. If its not real cold insulated (they call them winter now) mechanix do ok, good dexterity, so do the wind resistant, they're an affordable option, but worthless if they get wet. I also had some gloves with a hand warmer pocket where a tac glove would have knuckle protectors, don't recall the brand but they worked, though not as well as I would've expected and have to be bought large to not be too snug with a chem handwarmer in there. Quite a few thin waterproof gloves availible for the motorsports industry now, I had a few from bombadier that worked damned good.
When I was working outside in AK keeping the core warm enough that the body doesn't start limiting circulation is key to warm hands, properly dressed, well rested, fed and hydrated I could go without gloves working with steel tools for prolonged periods into the twenties, and could find something to keep myhands warm even at -40, take one of those away and I was gloving up in the forties, and miserable in anything below 0.
OR makes pretty amazing thin gloves, from my brief experience with them. If its not real cold insulated (they call them winter now) mechanix do ok, good dexterity, so do the wind resistant, they're an affordable option, but worthless if they get wet. I also had some gloves with a hand warmer pocket where a tac glove would have knuckle protectors, don't recall the brand but they worked, though not as well as I would've expected and have to be bought large to not be too snug with a chem handwarmer in there. Quite a few thin waterproof gloves availible for the motorsports industry now, I had a few from bombadier that worked damned good.
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I used ones like these for years in Alaska.
But when it really gets cold:
Never underestimate the value of keeping your hands warm. It doesn't take long at -40 and colder to loose the feeling in your fingers, in seconds you can't hold a match, a minute more you are shevering so hard you can't hold anything.
What I like about the heavy Arctic Mittens is when its extremely cold, you can scope slush out of you water hole while wearing them. The water will freeze on the outside fairly quick, and you can beat your hands on your pant leg breaking loose the ice, keeping the mittens dry.
At 50-60 below, using the trigger finger mittens (above) I was still able to work the dials on a PRC 109, and use the code device to convert messages into morris code, crank the radio and send messages.
The trick to heavy gloves/mittens, is learning to do small task while wearing the gloves.
Even now I make my kids and and grand kids build fires while wearing mittens.
Surplus trigger finger mittens are cheap and easy to find. Learn to do taske wearing them. Mainly how to build a fire.
We're not just taling about loosing fingers, you loose the use of your hand/fingers, you loose your life in the Arctic.
And watch out for cold feet, keep traveling to 25, if it goes below that stop, build a fire and dry your socks.
Learn to set up your gear, and build a fire without removing your mittens.
I used ones like these for years in Alaska.
But when it really gets cold:
Never underestimate the value of keeping your hands warm. It doesn't take long at -40 and colder to loose the feeling in your fingers, in seconds you can't hold a match, a minute more you are shevering so hard you can't hold anything.
What I like about the heavy Arctic Mittens is when its extremely cold, you can scope slush out of you water hole while wearing them. The water will freeze on the outside fairly quick, and you can beat your hands on your pant leg breaking loose the ice, keeping the mittens dry.
At 50-60 below, using the trigger finger mittens (above) I was still able to work the dials on a PRC 109, and use the code device to convert messages into morris code, crank the radio and send messages.
The trick to heavy gloves/mittens, is learning to do small task while wearing the gloves.
Even now I make my kids and and grand kids build fires while wearing mittens.
Surplus trigger finger mittens are cheap and easy to find. Learn to do taske wearing them. Mainly how to build a fire.
We're not just taling about loosing fingers, you loose the use of your hand/fingers, you loose your life in the Arctic.
And watch out for cold feet, keep traveling to 25, if it goes below that stop, build a fire and dry your socks.
Learn to set up your gear, and build a fire without removing your mittens.
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Get good ol' fashioned wool. You can get the mitten style where the tips fold over and reveal fingertips for dexterity. They're great.
Get good ol' fashioned wool. You can get the mitten style where the tips fold over and reveal fingertips for dexterity. They're great.
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May I recommend the mitten on a string? No joke there, though there certainly could be. A good pair of beaver mits over a nice cheap fleece glove is good. I am becoming a true believer in liners (for socks and gloves also.) If you don't need the dexterity 'all the time' and have half a moment to whip 'em off the mittens they work wonders.
Maybe not good for ice climing...
May I recommend the mitten on a string? No joke there, though there certainly could be. A good pair of beaver mits over a nice cheap fleece glove is good. I am becoming a true believer in liners (for socks and gloves also.) If you don't need the dexterity 'all the time' and have half a moment to whip 'em off the mittens they work wonders.
Maybe not good for ice climing...
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Yakface</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I use wool mittens with flip over finger cover. If it gets too cold for my finger tips I put a pair of glove liners or those thin black under armour gloves under them. </div></div>
I do the same. No glove liner though. A hand warmer will fit in the finger pocket and stays put even when flipped up out of the way.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Yakface</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I use wool mittens with flip over finger cover. If it gets too cold for my finger tips I put a pair of glove liners or those thin black under armour gloves under them. </div></div>
I do the same. No glove liner though. A hand warmer will fit in the finger pocket and stays put even when flipped up out of the way.
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Thanks for all the suggestions. It looks like Outdoor Research has what I'm looking for. Great selection.
Thanks for all the suggestions. It looks like Outdoor Research has what I'm looking for. Great selection.
