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Suppressors YHM Phantom 7.62 QD Review

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I am in no way a professional or claim to be a professional, this is only my opinion from my first hand knowledge and use with the YHM Phantom 762.

The Phantom 762 QD is heavy, 28 oz's of heavy. My first impression was not to shoot through the can, but to hammer nails in with this thing.

I was not sure about the QD system for precision use but decided I would give it a chance anyway. The can attaches very easily with the integrated threading. When torqued correctly, the can won't shift.

Here is a 3 shoot group from my GAP with a Cyclone, and the Phantom @ 100 yards. Lower group is the Phantom.
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The POI shift was double what the Cyclone was, but the accuracy was better. These results are repeatable, it will consistently hold a 1/2 MOA group.

The Phantom is noticeably louder than the Cyclone, but is still hearing safe.

Overall, I am impressed with the Phantom. It holds good groups for being a QD system. Most think a QD won't be as accurate as a thread on, but YHM has come through with a can that will produce accurate results. For the shooters that desire a QD system that will retain accuracy, you can't go wrong with the Phantom.
 
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good write up. ive thought about going with this can as i can affordably put one can on bot .223 rifles and .308.
 
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Good to hear the QD works well, Im about to order their 338 Phantom, and they only show it in QD on their site (however, I know they offer them in 5/8-24), but I think Ill go with the QD anyway since the gun is going to be so heavy to start with, itll be nice to take it off real easy to move positions.

BTW, for some reason I was mesmerized by your signature...not sure what it was, but I couldnt take my eyes off the screen for a good minute!
 
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I have the same results with my phantom. Huge POI change but it is repeatable. Just make sure the can is locked in the same teeth the next time you attach it.
 
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I just shot mine for the first time last weekend. I had it on my 16" AR 15 shooting 55gr OTC Federal ball ammo and POI with can on is .5 MOA left and .6 MOA up.
 
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If your QD is rotating, I'm going to guess you didn't torque it to the barrel. I have YHM QDs on four different rifles and use the same can on all of them. All four of the QDs were torqued to YHM's specs and none them budge one iota.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fred_C_Dobbs</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If your QD is rotating, I'm going to guess you didn't torque it to the barrel. I have YHM QDs on four different rifles and use the same can on all of them. All four of the QDs were torqued to YHM's specs and none them budge one iota. </div></div>

It is not the whole mount that is twisting, it is the ring where the teeth are, that connects to the tail of the suppressor, that will rotate.
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It twists on both my 556 and 762 mounts, so if both twist, I am guessing it was made to do so. Like I stated in the review, it is not to my liking, but has not shown any obvious affects on accuracy.
 
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On both the 556 and the 762 mount on mine it falls between the detents on the collar so to get it to fully lock you have to nudge the collar as you twist the can, Not a big deal to me as I know no better! As far as accuracy, With mine (762) it turn's a reasonably accurate hunting load into a 1/2MOA or better group without fail. Out in the open its definantly hearing safe but in somewhat of an enclosed area(Shooting house, under the shed at the range) It has a little bite to it.
POI change is minimal bout 2 min low.

Running 556 through it it is definantly hearing safe, I have yet to check the accuracy on a 556 though.

Is it heavy??? Hell yes? But so is everything else I own....

 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ninja Pirtle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It twists on both my 556 and 762 mounts, so if both twist, I am guessing it was made to do so. Like I stated in the review, it is not to my liking, but has not shown any obvious affects on accuracy. </div></div>

I have both the 5.56 and 7.62 QD's. Both have flats on the flash suppressor body and as you can see from the pic, the engagement washer is machined so as to fit with the flats so it will not rotate.

You can take yours apart, just simply take the spring clip off that holds the spring-tension-wave washer and the engagement washer will slide off the flash suppressor. This is my 7.62 QD, the 5.56 one is mounted already.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JRose</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Haven't used a YHM, but was taken back by the weight of it... </div></div>

They will introduce a Titanium Phantom can at SHOT Show. It will MSRP for $1100.00 with a mount. But they can be had for less if you find the right dealer. Im on board with these cans. For what they are..... Excellent for the money and seem to make a great can for new guys that are getting into suppressors.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mattsnuked</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I really like my YHM can but just wished they would make a brake version for the 308 rather than just the flash hider.</div></div>

I have been saying the exact same thing, they did it for the 556 but not that 762, that doesn't make since.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: willy7586</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I baught the YHM 7.62 QD and waiting on my paperwork, (I'm only 6 weeks in). Thanks for the report. This is my 2nd and I love my .22 can. </div></div>

Congrats on your purchase, I have 3 YHM cans, and do not feel I made a bad decision, at all. I compare my YHM 556 can next to the AAC m4-2000 and still I have zero regrets.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ninja Pirtle</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mattsnuked</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I really like my YHM can but just wished they would make a brake version for the 308 rather than just the flash hider.</div></div>

I have been saying the exact same thing, they did it for the 556 but not that 762, that doesn't make since.

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That's because the YHM model is not really a brake, it just looks like one. PWS makes an actual brake for the 223 model but YHM says the warranty will void, who cares and how are they going to prove it. I doubt it would negatively affect it.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mattsnuked</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ninja Pirtle</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mattsnuked</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I really like my YHM can but just wished they would make a brake version for the 308 rather than just the flash hider.</div></div>

I have been saying the exact same thing, they did it for the 556 but not that 762, that doesn't make since.

</div></div>

That's because the YHM model is not really a brake, it just looks like one. PWS makes an actual brake for the 223 model but YHM says the warranty will void, who cares and how are they going to prove it. I doubt it would negatively affect it. </div></div>

Anything else you guys would like for me to test out on the Phantom? I am probably going to be a little bit more in depth with my next review. I will be reviewing the Cyclone and the 762-SD. I do not have DB meters, and I honestly don't think a DB reading is as important as POI shift and consistency anyway.
 
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I love my phantom. I mostly shoot it on a heavy 300wsm. I never reall shoot it without the can so I never have a shift
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I actually knocked off everything in front of the qd threads because my rifle wouldn't fit in my case with it on, no affect on accuracy or alignment.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jtb33</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If not, is the POI shift repeatable on the same firearm? </div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ninja Pirtle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The POI shift was double what the Cyclone was, but the accuracy was not bad. <span style="color: #FF0000">These results are repeatable</span>, it will consistently hold a 1/2 MOA group.</div></div>


My QD Phantom 7.62 is being run on a AR243WSSM and is easily hearing safe inside buildings shooting out. Got a video I'm working on, should be posted soon. We shoot from inside an old house at 400m and 800m plates when the weather gets poor.
I'm very pleased, I never shoot without the suppressor so POI shift is irrelevant for me...but it is always repeatable.
As stated...sometimes if you're in a hurry, you can over tighten the suppressor onto the QD teeth and get 1/2 a tooth too much. Simply back it off 1/2 tooth so that it attaches where it's suppose to.

Durability, QD, Accuracy and VALUE is very hard to beat with the Phantom. The weight is a good thing...Boris said so.

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my 762QD is rock solid on some mounts and needs to be backed down to a full click on some others. The ones that are backed off will have some slight rotational play but no wobble. If you lock it into the same notch every time you will have good results.
 
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boris the bullet dodger? boris the sneaky f-cking russian? i love that movie.

glad to hear good reports on the can. i think its what i will be getting. price is right and i just dont see myself spending anymore on another brand. i am really debating the QD vs regular. my semi is threaded to fit the QD and i could thread my bolt also. so either will fit the QD.

whats a good reason to use the QD over just the screw on 5/8"-24 ?? how much time am i saving with the QD over the non-QD?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AXEMAN</div><div class="ubbcode-body">boris the bullet dodger? boris the sneaky f-cking russian? i love that movie.

glad to hear good reports on the can. i think its what i will be getting. price is right and i just dont see myself spending anymore on another brand. i am really debating the QD vs regular. my semi is threaded to fit the QD and i could thread my bolt also. so either will fit the QD.

whats a good reason to use the QD over just the screw on 5/8"-24 ?? how much time am i saving with the QD over the non-QD? </div></div>

Valid point. The Cyclone takes me maybe 5 seconds longer?? I have heard people say that a direct attach can back off, but I have yet to see it happen. The QD definitely eliminates all worries. I find myself looking for better cans, but can't truly say there is really much out there that is better for the price.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mattsnuked</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I really like my YHM can but just wished they would make a brake version for the 308 rather than just the flash hider.</div></div>

X2. I have been shooting this can on a .308 bolt and a 7.62x39 AR for a few years now, but would really like a brake instead of FH.
 
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I have had good results with the Phantom 5.56 and Phantom 7.62. My groups did not noticeably open up with either can. The 7.62 works pretty well on a 5.56 gun too, but it's very heavy. I'd like to get the titanium version. You can use the 5.56 QD mount for either can, but the 7.62 mount will only fit a 7.62 can.

Once you get used to suppressed shooting, it's hard to go back because the noise level is so much more comfortable.


Some videos I made of the cans:

700 meter shot with the Phantom 5.56: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8k6Ykq32F0

900 yard shot with the Phantom 7.62 from yesterday: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUM0RUu8DvU
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: clay_breaker</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> but would really like a brake instead of FH. </div></div>

I agree. PWS makes one (FSC556) for the Phantom 5.56, but there is no brake option for the 7.62. They need to start making them.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYS338</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JRose</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Haven't used a YHM, but was taken back by the weight of it... </div></div>

They will introduce a Titanium Phantom can at SHOT Show. It will MSRP for $1100.00 with a mount. But they can be had for less if you find the right dealer. Im on board with these cans. For what they are..... Excellent for the money and seem to make a great can for new guys that are getting into suppressors. </div></div>

I fingered one of these at SHOT. Very affordable for a Ti can, and extremely lightweight. Inconel blast baffle, but otherwise Ti throughout. They are thinking around $860-$900 for street price.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sgtlmj</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I fingered one of these at SHOT. Very affordable for a Ti can, and extremely lightweight. Inconel blast baffle, but otherwise Ti throughout. They are thinking around $860-$900 for street price. </div></div>

I missed their booth at SHOT. I saw some AAC though in the Freedom Group section.

I heard from my dealer that they might be available in as soon as a few weeks.
 
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Update.

I got the YHM can to not rotate, I had to put a little elbow grease into it but no wobble. The "locking plate" needed to be held tight while the can was torqued down.

 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mattsnuked</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I really like my YHM can but just wished they would make a brake version for the 308 rather than just the flash hider.</div></div>

X2. A 2 chamber brake with the 10 degree up ports would be great. I sent YHM an e-mail wishing they would produce this, never got a reply. Bet they would sell like hotcakes, they have quite a few of these cans in service.
 
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Hey ninja, great review. Sounds like the titanium phantom might solve one of the biggest "downsides" to the phantom which is weight. Does the Ti have the same accuracy and repeatability though? I like precision shooting, so this is important. I would love to hear reviews on that if you or anyone else has played with it.

I actually shoot with Todd sometimes at PWS, maybe I'll talk to him about the chances of a brake qd.
 
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How can
You check on status of your can paperwork? Web site/ phone number.. Put my papers in may 28 check cashed on June 7
 
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I was considering the YHM phantom Titanium 7.62...But this; qd/flashhider, is the only mounting option.
And it has me nervous.

Reason is....I like to clean my rifle every now and then.
Most cleaning jags and swabs extend very little past the crown when measured correctly. (Cleaning Jag and Rifle Manufacturer statements) But crown damage can/will occur if a cognizant operator is not watching and feeling.
I never let any tools extend more than 3/4in out of the muzzle side before grasping it, maintaining symmetrical fit to the bore (centering it so it doesn't touch the crown) and feeding it back in to the barrel (again so it doesn't hit the crown).
I personally grasp the jag and feed it back into the bore so it has minimal contact. (another story entirely)

Anyway...my rant so far has been cleaning patch push and removal WITHOUT a flash hider or otherwise.
Without any muzzle add-ons, clearances at the crown have typically provided enough clearance that jag contact(due to me centering before bore re-entry occurs) does not occur with the crown.

Onword....I've shot a gun with the Phanton QD mount and found the owner to be running his whole cleaning rod past the flash hider.
I won't get into the damage this "May/Will" cause...but I will defer to my fellow hide members...

With a standard 7.62 mm.30 cal jag...does one risk eroding the "6 O Clock" section" of the crown by using a YHM phantom because of the clearances of the "QD/Flash hider?"


What options, besides a suppressor threaded barrel can enable predictable accuracy without un-normal barrel wear?
Thanks in advance. I don't believe I hijacked this thread because there were lots of questions about the QD. But I apologize if I did...and please move my post if it is erronius.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ninja Pirtle</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mattsnuked</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I really like my YHM can but just wished they would make a brake version for the 308 rather than just the flash hider.</div></div>

I have been saying the exact same thing, they did it for the 556 but not that 762, that doesn't make since.

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X2. I want a brake instead of Flash hider. I have sent numerous e-mails to YHM begging for this.

Been running this can on AR and a bolt gun for several years. Like the can, built like a tank, has repeatable POI shift for me. I put 3 small pencil marks on mine before I start shooting, one on bbl, one on the mount and one on the can, I then check periodically to see if if all 3 line up.

One other tip, a small squirt of water in the can makes a huge difference in the tone of this can. Try it, you guys will like it.
 
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This was a great read. I'm about to 'pull the trigger' on the phantom for my .308 gas gun. POI was a concern...4" off @ 100yds...wow! Definitely gotta re-zero if I'm running the can all the time.

I'm wondering how it will perform out to 800-1100yds. I'll have to find someone near me w/ one & chk that out.
 
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28 oz with or without the brake? Either way...heavy.

Not ear safe. .308 is approx db of 161 (higher with your brake) now we subtract the 30 stated db reduction getting you to 131 ish.

Hearing safe is 85dbs.....85 dbs (8 hours)...After that its all time/exposure. At 100db one gets a lot less time, and with sound pressure doubling with every 3 db rise, you get the idea.

80 dB within 24 hrs. is SAFE.

From here on down its allowable within 24 hours...

82 dB 16 hrs.
85 dB 8 hrs.
88 dB 4 hrs.
91 dB 2 hrs.
94 dB 1 hr.
97 dB 30 mins.
100 dB 15 mins.
103 dB 8 mins.
106 dB 4 mins.
109 dB 2 mins.
112 dB 1 min.
115 dB 30 secs.
118 dB 15 secs.
121 dB 8 secs.
124 dB 4 secs.
127 dB 2 secs.
130 dB 1 sec. (within 24 hours)
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ninja Pirtle</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mattsnuked</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I really like my YHM can but just wished they would make a brake version for the 308 rather than just the flash hider.</div></div>

I have been saying the exact same thing, they did it for the 556 but not that 762, that doesn't make since.

</div></div>

I sent them an email regarding a .308 muzzle brake and this what they replied:

"Sir,
No, we have no plans of offering any Muzzle Brake for a .308 anytime in
the near future. Currently we cannot manufacture our products that we
already offer in a timely manner, and most of our products are out of
stock. Currently the lead time for most items is 12-16 weeks, so you
probably won't be seeing any new items from us anytime soon."


I was hoping they would have a muzzle brake in the near future, but I guess a Q.D. flash hider will have to do.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Johnny Lately</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ninja Pirtle</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mattsnuked</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I really like my YHM can but just wished they would make a brake version for the 308 rather than just the flash hider.</div></div>

I have been saying the exact same thing, they did it for the 556 but not that 762, that doesn't make since.

</div></div>

I sent them an email regarding a .308 muzzle brake and this what they replied:

"Sir,
No, we have no plans of offering any Muzzle Brake for a .308 anytime in
the near future. Currently we cannot manufacture our products that we
already offer in a timely manner, and most of our products are out of
stock. Currently the lead time for most items is 12-16 weeks, so you
probably won't be seeing any new items from us anytime soon."


I was hoping they would have a muzzle brake in the near future, but I guess a Q.D. flash hider will have to do.
</div></div>

That's strange, I spoke with a sales rep this morning while checking a Form 3 with them and let him know my customers also had the same complaints. He said they plan to introduce a muzzle brake (in addition to the existing flash hider) for the 5/8"-24 7.62 next year. Again, this is just what their sales dept told me on the phone, so take it with a grain of salt /shrug. I guess we'll have to wait to see what the future holds for the YHM QD.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wtopace</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Johnny Lately</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ninja Pirtle</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mattsnuked</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I really like my YHM can but just wished they would make a brake version for the 308 rather than just the flash hider.</div></div>

I have been saying the exact same thing, they did it for the 556 but not that 762, that doesn't make since.

</div></div>

I sent them an email regarding a .308 muzzle brake and this what they replied:

"Sir,
No, we have no plans of offering any Muzzle Brake for a .308 anytime in
the near future. Currently we cannot manufacture our products that we
already offer in a timely manner, and most of our products are out of
stock. Currently the lead time for most items is 12-16 weeks, so you
probably won't be seeing any new items from us anytime soon."


I was hoping they would have a muzzle brake in the near future, but I guess a Q.D. flash hider will have to do.
</div></div>

That's strange, I spoke with a sales rep this morning while checking a Form 3 with them and let him know my customers also had the same complaints. He said they plan to introduce a muzzle brake (in addition to the existing flash hider) for the 5/8"-24 7.62 next year. Again, this is just what their sales dept told me on the phone, so take it with a grain of salt /shrug. I guess we'll have to wait to see what the future holds for the YHM QD. </div></div>

I found this thread after trying a search about this from YHM:

http://yhm.net/index.php?main_page=produ...c982cda7652ec47

I had also been disappointed YHM didn't offer a brake for their QD suppressors. Looks like they finally came through for us. I ordered one and will post a few photos and a short report once I get it in and get some time to try it out.
I thought it was appropriate to bring back this old thread since there was something new to report.