Hello Swampy. I am one of the key members of ZCO. Nobody has handled these scopes yet, we are still making a couple minor adjustments. The scopes at SHOT are pre-production models, but very very close to the finalized design. Pricing has not yet been finalized yet either because we are still not yet done. We hold extremely high standards and will not rush these to market. We are very happy with where we are at this point that we are confident in announcing our company and showing these models at SHOT. Production scopes are anticipated to be finished early second quarter this year. Thanks for your interest, please watch for reviews from the SHOT attendees.