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Iran Invasion time?

any chance of flipping hamas? challenge them to suppress violent extremism, including the toppling of the iranian clerics. peace and some modified form of democracy spreads in the region for x years and we’ll recognize your state. . . ? 30 years of the current strategy hasnt worked for them yet.
 
I would give that a 0% chance. If they were interested in peace they would have found it by now.
 
Seen way to many hot persian chicks that "I wouldn't kick out of bed for eating crackers"...
Yeeeeep. From Egypt, Kuwait, Iraq, Bahrain... ridiculous
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"The nearly decade-old tweet that may explain Trump's reckless Iran war strategy"

"Sending an aircraft carrier group to threaten retaliation against any Iranian-sponsored aggression real or imagined, is no slam-dunk foreign policy decision." Dederer wrote, "Rather, it is a cynical re-election ploy with no regard for cost in American blood."

quote: John Dederer, member of Disabled American Veterans

Source:


 
About 30 years ago...I struck up a conversation with a Marine at a bar on the grounds of Quantico, Virginia Marine Base one night.

He told me that he was one of the Marines guarding the U.S. Embassy in Tehran, when the embassy officials were taken hostage. He was on top of the roof of the embassy that night with bullets snapping over his head.
 
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About 20 years ago...I struck up a conversation with a Marine at a bar on the grounds of Quantico, Virginia Marine Base one night.

He told me that he was one of the Marines guarding the U.S. Embassy in Tehran, when the embassy officials were taken hostage. He was on top of the roof of the embassy that night with bullets snapping over his head.
And.......... Continue please.
 
And.......... Continue please.

That's all that I can remember...but the conversation probably had a profound effect on my life. I was only a civilian contractor for the Marine base at the time....but we still had permission to go to the bar on base that night.
 
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Rocky Sickmann?

I'm not sure whether it was him or not, the one who I struck-up a conversation that night. But it wasn't 20 years ago that I posted...now I figure it had to be at least 30 years ago.
 
That's all that I can remember...but the conversation probably had a profound effect on my life. I was only a civilian contractor for the Marine base at the time....but we still had permission to go to the bar on base that night.

Why did it have a profound effect?
 
It's funny that you forgot so much of such a profound meeting.

Are you sure he didn't read about it in a newspaper or you just imagined it while talking to a dog?
 
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Hi,

Back on serious note...

Bet there are lots of companies that are wondering if a Government entity is sifting through their emails right now in regards to conducting business with Iranian based companies....specifically Iranian based firearm companies....

Bet people are wishing they would not have visited The Amaj Shooting Equipment & Services booth at IWA :unsure:.

Sincerely,
Theis
 
Hi,

Back on serious note...

Bet there are lots of companies that are wondering if a Government entity is sifting through their emails right now in regards to conducting business with Iranian based companies....specifically Iranian based firearm companies....

Bet people are wishing they would not have visited The Amaj Shooting Equipment & Services booth at IWA :unsure:.

Sincerely,
Theis
The Indians had better guns than Custer. Some things never change. :)
 
World oil supplies in jeopardy?

I don't understand the oil game well.
We are exporting and importing it?

As I understand it we have the good stuff. A lot of countries need Mideast oil, but why do we need it?

They messed up a couple of our shipments.
The world oil supply is a victim of the same just in time inventory control that affects your local grocery store if a truck breaks down, there is no milk that day. However with oil it is more to do with the refining capabilities than actual crude supply. If you can't refine it, doesn't matter how much crude you have. It take special refineries to refine the sour crude which is what the bulk of the oil is from the OPEC shit holes. We have a lot of those refineries mostly along the gulf coast. That is why it only takes a break in the supply chain or a hurricane in the gulf of Mexico to send gas prices through the roof over night.

The only thing the sour crude from the ME has going for it is being cheap. The sweet crude like WTI, which is mostly what we have in the states is more expensive because it cost very little to refine, thus making it more desirable, has a lower sulphur content, and less by products like H2S. It is very common to import the sour crude to Texas, refine it then sell the refined products back to other countries. Oil companies can some times make more money doing that and selling the sweet crude to other places that can refine the sweet crude but cannot handle the heavy sour stuff.

Oil markets get manipulated some by supply and demand but sometimes by politics. Some of the reason behind the oil price crash in 2015 and 2016 was trying to hurt places like Russia. Russia only has 3 sources of income essentially. Arms, oil and gas, Russia has a very high break even point on their oil because of logistics. They have a huge coast line but most of it is covered ice, thus no viable places of offshore drilling not many deep water ports that are year round accessible (some of the reason Putin wanted Crimea back) so they have to rely on pipe lines to transport their product. Hence when the price of oil and gas gets below the high break even, it really puts a hurt on Russian financially.

It is hard to starve the ME out when their break even point on oil is less than 20 dollars a barrel, but when rules limiting the percentage of sulphur in crude make it where you can't use it because of emission concerns price will be less of a factor. Think the new IMO 2020 rules coming out Jan 1 2020.

We have plenty of oil here in the states, both sour and sweet. However because of the shrub cuddlers and SJW types 90 to 95 percent of our known oil reserves are off limits for drilling. We are using less than 10 percent of our resource's and keeping up with the world, the rag heads are using 100 percent. There are places like Brazil that has more oil than Suadi Arabia, but because of the corrupt government and all the pay offs involved it is expensive to do business in Brazil. Even Mexico has a shit ton of oil, but just like Brazil the corruption in the government has almost ruined people from doing business there.
 
@Hound Dog
Thanks good explination.
I fooled with the oil industry a way back, grey wolf I think it was.

Not touched oil related again, they were trying to bust open Venezuela at the time I believe.
Just like you said corrupt government shut them down and lost me money.

I get oil royalties from my house, enough for a fancy dinner out, every 5 years.lol
 
the world could absorb total iran loss without breaking a sweat.

read the prize

https://www.amazon.com/Prize-Epic-Quest-Money-Power/dp/B00CMDPTA4

\or watch the documentary

Thanks I will have to read that book. A lot of people don't realize how vested the British government and the Anglo Saxon oil company was in Iran from WWI all the way to when they were booted out of the country in the 70"s. That is the father of what we now know as Shell, and the step father of BP. I agree we don't need the oil, we would be better off invading Mexico if it was just about oil. (the logistics would be a heck of a lot easier) there is more at play here. We should get completely out of the ME, put a blockade around it and dare anyone to come out. When no one is buying their oil they will starve to death, they have nothing else anyone wants.
 
The world oil supply is a victim of the same just in time inventory control that affects your local grocery store if a truck breaks down, there is no milk that day. However with oil it is more to do with the refining capabilities than actual crude supply. If you can't refine it, doesn't matter how much crude you have. It take special refineries to refine the sour crude which is what the bulk of the oil is from the OPEC shit holes. We have a lot of those refineries mostly along the gulf coast. That is why it only takes a break in the supply chain or a hurricane in the gulf of Mexico to send gas prices through the roof over night.

The only thing the sour crude from the ME has going for it is being cheap. The sweet crude like WTI, which is mostly what we have in the states is more expensive because it cost very little to refine, thus making it more desirable, has a lower sulphur content, and less by products like H2S. It is very common to import the sour crude to Texas, refine it then sell the refined products back to other countries. Oil companies can some times make more money doing that and selling the sweet crude to other places that can refine the sweet crude but cannot handle the heavy sour stuff.

Oil markets get manipulated some by supply and demand but sometimes by politics. Some of the reason behind the oil price crash in 2015 and 2016 was trying to hurt places like Russia. Russia only has 3 sources of income essentially. Arms, oil and gas, Russia has a very high break even point on their oil because of logistics. They have a huge coast line but most of it is covered ice, thus no viable places of offshore drilling not many deep water ports that are year round accessible (some of the reason Putin wanted Crimea back) so they have to rely on pipe lines to transport their product. Hence when the price of oil and gas gets below the high break even, it really puts a hurt on Russian financially.

It is hard to starve the ME out when their break even point on oil is less than 20 dollars a barrel, but when rules limiting the percentage of sulphur in crude make it where you can't use it because of emission concerns price will be less of a factor. Think the new IMO 2020 rules coming out Jan 1 2020.

We have plenty of oil here in the states, both sour and sweet. However because of the shrub cuddlers and SJW types 90 to 95 percent of our known oil reserves are off limits for drilling. We are using less than 10 percent of our resource's and keeping up with the world, the rag heads are using 100 percent. There are places like Brazil that has more oil than Suadi Arabia, but because of the corrupt government and all the pay offs involved it is expensive to do business in Brazil. Even Mexico has a shit ton of oil, but just like Brazil the corruption in the government has almost ruined people from doing business there.

Thanks for the education.
 
Besides himself...Trump needs to fire war mongering assholes like Bolton and Pompeo; and avoid having himself being treated like a "puppet on a string" by the likes of knee jerk Bolton.
 
Only an Idiot could use puppet and Trump in the same thought. People like Bolton and Pompeo keep it real for the enemy.

Besides himself...Trump needs to fire war mongering assholes like Bolton and Pompeo; and avoid having himself being treated like a "puppet on a string" by the likes of knee jerk Bolton.
 
Beat me to it @FS1 !
While I agree that Bolton is pretty belligerent as far as national security advisor types go, he's actually living in this reality when it comes to considering regimes like Iran and the Norks. I'll take some deserved belligerence over leftist fantasies about being friends with/working with rogue, totalitarian regimes. Honestly, to anyone who understands what totalitarianism is (clearly the left does not) and how it must be confronted (force and violence), having a John Bolton is so vastly superior to a John Kerry who lives in a fantasy world that has no relationship to this reality, it's comical to consider anything else.

Bolton is exactly where he should be giving his point of view. The idea that he could "push" Trump into a war is laughable, but feel free to expose your hypocritical and contradictory criticism for what it is.
 
I think many people that have not served have little experience to pull opinions from.

So they just make shit up since they have no idea of the way things really are.
 
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Case in point:
Trying to make friends with a regime that has been whipping up popular sentiment within their own country to murder yours for FORTY YEARS!!! How about sending, these same people who chant for your death, hundreds of millions of Swiss Franks, because to send them our own currency would be completely illegal?
Seriously, after the dog fuckery of the Obama Administration (You can pretend they were just stupid and naïve, but I'll still call it treason punishable by death) people like Emo should really STFU if they EVER want to be trusted with power again. To keep defending such monumental failures and idiotic policies (like changing from Iran gets no Nukes to: Iran gets them slower) only proves all the criticism is correct, and you live in a fantasy world that will get us killed in this one.
 
Beat me to it @FS1 !
While I agree that Bolton is pretty belligerent as far as national security advisor types go, he's actually living in this reality when it comes to considering regimes like Iran and the Norks. I'll take some deserved belligerence over leftist fantasies about being friends with/working with rogue, totalitarian regimes. Honestly, to anyone who understands what totalitarianism is (clearly the left does not) and how it must be confronted (force and violence), having a John Bolton is so vastly superior to a John Kerry who lives in a fantasy world that has no relationship to this reality, it's comical to consider anything else.

Bolton is exactly where he should be giving his point of view. The idea that he could "push" Trump into a war is laughable, but feel free to expose your hypocritical and contradictory criticism for what it is.


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Case in point:
Trying to make friends with a regime that has been whipping up popular sentiment within their own country to murder yours for FORTY YEARS!!! How about sending, these same people who chant for your death, hundreds of millions of Swiss Franks, because to send them our own currency would be completely illegal?
Seriously, after the dog fuckery of the Obama Administration (You can pretend they were just stupid and naïve, but I'll still call it treason punishable by death) people like Emo should really STFU if they EVER want to be trusted with power again. To keep defending such monumental failures and idiotic policies (like changing from Iran gets no Nukes to: Iran gets them slower) only proves all the criticism is correct, and you live in a fantasy world that will get us killed in this one.

BLAMMO!! Excellent.
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Yesterday on the news DJT said he was keeping Bolton in check.

An invasion eminent? No.

But a drive by strike possible.
And if Iran keeps it up reasonable.

Imho
 
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Trump is continuously accused of sucking up to dictators. I think it was Teddy who said "walk softly and carry a big stick". Reagan was the last to use the big stick. The Bushes, Clinton and Obama put it in the closet. Trump found it.
 
Yesterday on the news DJT said he was keeping Bolton in check.

An invasion eminent? No.

But a drive by strike possible.
And if Iran keeps it up reasonable.

Imho
They are daring Iran to do anything. So it's up to Iran to strike first. I don't think they can handle the response.

PS would it be smart to put a missile in a nuke Carrier? Thus sinklng it's reactor in your back yard?