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Precision Rifle Gear Anybody making a bag rider for the ACC Elite?

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    Picked up an ACC Elite and got MDT’s aluminum bag rider with it (among other widgets). Problem is, the bag rider angles downward from back to front, and I’m looking for one that has a bottom surface parallel to the bore.

    I could do a lot of internet searching, but thought the Hide might know an outfit who makes what I want. Thanks for any help in advance.
     
    Made a simple one, just dont want the chassis to hit the ground every time when I go prone.
     

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    This has been mentioned to MDT a number of times and it blows my mind that they don't get that their bag rider for the Premier is just not suitable to the Elite due to slant. It would take an engineer how long to modify the CAD data to do this? sigh
     
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    Baron23 said:
    This has been mentioned to MDT a number of times and it blows my mind that they don't get that their bag rider for the Premier is just not suitable to the Elite due to slant. It would take an engineer how long to modify the CAD data to do this? sigh
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    Yep, I was pretty annoyed when I bolted it on. I'm sure they'll get there, it's gotta be a little glaring to their product management team when their flagship shooters are running 3D printed parts that compete directly with the MDT official stuff. I get that SKU minimization is important, but angled vs straight bag riders are not a new concept. I do think that the precision shooting community isn't necessarily aligned on which is best though, some people like that the angle provides them more rear bag range; I think tripod rear might make the issue more obvious.

    C'est la vie.
     
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    Didn't 5x5 make a pretty nice one for it last year? I looked on their site but couldn't find it..
     
    Baron23 said:
    This has been mentioned to MDT a number of times and it blows my mind that they don't get that their bag rider for the Premier is just not suitable to the Elite due to slant. It would take an engineer how long to modify the CAD data to do this? sigh
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    The MDT bag rider is shit.
     
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    So I saw an mdt short that they had a nice looking one in the elite chassis, I commented and they said it's a prototype they are working on.. hopefully soon they release one for it
     
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    I made one out of delrin because I’m too impatient to order the one from Australian precision
    australiantacticalprecision.com.au

    ATP Australia Ultimate Bag Rider for MDT ACC Elite Chassis

    We only use quality gear at Australian Tactical Precision (ATP), this principal also extends to the products we manufacture. One size does not fit all, that also applies to bag riders. There are many rear bag manufacturers out there and the spacing between the ears can be significantly...
    australiantacticalprecision.com.au australiantacticalprecision.com.au
     
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    Mongo68 said:
    I made one out of delrin because I’m too impatient to order the one from Australian precision
    australiantacticalprecision.com.au

    ATP Australia Ultimate Bag Rider for MDT ACC Elite Chassis

    We only use quality gear at Australian Tactical Precision (ATP), this principal also extends to the products we manufacture. One size does not fit all, that also applies to bag riders. There are many rear bag manufacturers out there and the spacing between the ears can be significantly...
    australiantacticalprecision.com.au australiantacticalprecision.com.au
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    Ah, that was basically exactly I was hoping to find stateside, oh well. Thanks for the info!
     
    My guess is that they are working with Chad heckler at 5x5 because his is the best one I've seen and it looks alot like this one
     
    I was tagging in the Bag Bullet maker to see if his could be adapted to this or if he is making one.

    Im not a chassis fan and ran his on an MPA Hybrid.
    Very nice. Super stable.
    Plus he is a long time Hide guy and shooter and a heck of a guy.
     
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    4O6shootist said:
    The acc elite is flat mounting plate, not angled like previous gens. I for one, strongly dislike angle in a bag rider.
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    Yeah, MDT just cheaped out and used the rider from the Premier and though that customers would be...happy? Not notice? Dunno, cause it just seems stupid to me. The Premier bag rider is in CAD....we know it is. This is like 5 minutes of work to modify the existing CAD file to reflect the horizontal bottom of the Elite butt stock.

    Maybe they had a bunch of the Premier bag riders batch made and need to move them? Cause, for the life of me, I don't understand why this isn't already resolved.
     
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    I even reached out to mdt because they all run the same one that Chad from 5x5 makes.. I was told it's a prototype and they don't know if they will release it. I contacted Chad he said he isn't sure if he is gonna make and sell them.. I really like his design though because it doesn't hang over the front very much at all
     
    Covertnoob5 said:
    No sir. Brandt built. Same guy that makes the sendit level ocular adapter. Not sure if he’s making anymore. You’ll have to contact him directly cause he doesn’t advertise it.

    @Secant
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    Hey so who did you get this made from? It looked like you tagged secant but I reached out and he said he's the wrong guy
     
    NFshooter150 said:
    Hey so who did you get this made from? It looked like you tagged secant but I reached out and he said he's the wrong guy
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    He just tagged me because I asked for the link. Below is Brandt Built's website.

    Cant Indicator | Brandt Built Concepts

    Ocular mounted cant indicator for precision long range, Brandt built concepts
    www.brandtbuiltconcepts.com www.brandtbuiltconcepts.com

    I forgot about this thread when you reached out. Too early for my PM response to you, haha.
     

    ACC Elite bag rider here for sale now.

    CNC machined 6061-T6 Aluminum and Cerakote finish matched to the factory black.


    Flat bottom with full radius edge for ideal tripod rear support engagement. Top surface has grip ridge texture to it (smooth). Does not stick out at all presenting any snagging surfaces. Tapers to match the grip support width. All other edges have a radius and are smooth.


    Attaches with 2 MLOK fasteners (provided) into the MLOK slot on the bottom of the MDT rear stock. 4.9oz weight.


    Tested by a top 10 PRS shooter. Everyone is happy. Get yours now.

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    McLeod_Precision said:

    ACC Elite bag rider here for sale now.

    CNC machined 6061-T6 Aluminum and Cerakote finish matched to the factory black.


    Flat bottom with full radius edge for ideal tripod rear support engagement. Top surface has grip ridge texture to it (smooth). Does not stick out at all presenting any snagging surfaces. Tapers to match the grip support width. All other edges have a radius and are smooth.


    Attaches with 2 MLOK fasteners (provided) into the MLOK slot on the bottom of the MDT rear stock. 4.9oz weight.


    Tested by a top 10 PRS shooter. Everyone is happy. Get yours now.

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    Is the bottom surface parallel to the ARCA on the forend?
     
    KnowNothing256 said:
    Is the bottom surface parallel to the ARCA on the forend?
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    It creates a flat plane across the bottom of the rear stock. No relation to barrel axis, however it is very close to that axis.

    Provides a 6.4" long flat area with a radius edge to engage rear tripod. The bag engagement part is a bonus. These chassis without a bag rider only leave a few inches of area in the rear where you are basically up in your armpit engaging tripod rear support.

    In fact all, of our testing was around tripod rear support. Everyone has a place to engage they feel comfortable and stable and the full 6.4" length gives that room. Also this does not present a snag point like some of the other attempts I have seen at shorter versions.

    The bag engagement is great too, but not much surprising there.
     
    McLeod_Precision said:
    It creates a flat plane across the bottom of the rear stock. No relation to barrel axis, however it is very close to that axis.

    Provides a 6.4" long flat area with a radius edge to engage rear tripod. The bag engagement part is a bonus. These chassis without a bag rider only leave a few inches of area in the rear where you are basically up in your armpit engaging tripod rear support.

    In fact all, of our testing was around tripod rear support. Everyone has a place to engage they feel comfortable and stable and the full 6.4" length gives that room. Also this does not present a snag point like some of the other attempts I have seen at shorter versions.

    The bag engagement is great too, but not much surprising there.
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    I appreciate the info! Tripod rear is roughly half of my use case, but rear bag is the other half. One thing I don't want is elevation changes when the rifle travels rearward, which is why it's important to me that the bottom surface of the bag rider be parallel to the bore. As I mention at the top of this thread, the current MDT offering fails to achieve this requirement; it will tend to tip the muzzle downward under recoil. It would be better for me to run no bag rider at all than to have this issue.
     
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