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Which do you prefer in competition - holdovers or adjusting turrets?

Holdovers or adjust turrets?

  • Holdover

    Votes: 13 21.7%
  • Adjust turrets

    Votes: 37 61.7%
  • Other?...

    Votes: 10 16.7%

Curious what you folks do in competitions - when you have your dope, do you adjust your turrets for each target or do you prefer to use holdovers?

I didn't pay attention at the last competition to what my group did - I did holdovers as it seemed quicker and I have a reticle that will account for it.

Unless I was really familiar with my optic and adjusting, I think holdovers would be easier/quicker than worrying about going a click or 3 too far. I was surprised just how quickly those two minutes go by when you're looking for the targets. :D

Almost no neck tension on new brass?

Ran into something odd a few days ago with some new Alpha 6.5cm brass. Grabbed some virgin cases to start loading for a new gun, and wasn't happy with the .262 expander ball in my Forster sizing die; I could feel not a whole lot of resistance (there was some, but not what I was wanting) when seating the bullets in my inline die/arbor press combination. (I'm using the K&M press that has a short arm).
So I took the expander stem out of the die, chucked it up in my drill and polished on it a little to get it to .260 for a little more neck tension. Seated a few more rounds and NOTHING. ZERO difference in seating feel. How??
I was soo shocked I sized a case with NO expander ball in it, and seated a bullet in it after doing that and there was same neck tension, which is very little. I am so confused I have no idea what is going on. Could this be because the cases are brand new? Could it be bad brass? I'm guessing a lot of springback? Why dont my already loaded rounds from 2 weeks ago have this? When I try to pull a bullet out of my previously loaded cases it's really hard, and now all of a sudden they pull out really easy. I measured the od of these new bullets and they're the same as the old ones I loaded a while ago. Why I'm so confused is because this is a new anomaly for me. I've been loading rounds like this for a year now, and when I move to progressively smaller expander balls the amount of force needed to seat the bullets goes up. And now, all of a sudden out of nowhere, nothing I do changes the super light neck tension I have now. Nothing I do changes the super easy seating force I now have when seating... I have four Forster dies in 6.5 creedmoor and theyre all the same.
Have any of you experienced this?

Same price, which choice: WOA 16” SPR vs Criterion Hybrid

I’m in the process of accurizing one of my setups for precision work. I saw Brownells has two that stood out.

Criterion Hybrid 16” 223 Wylde for $236.99

White Oak Armament 16” SPR 223 Wylde for $237.99 with BF code

For context this would be something I’d like to be sub-MOA if possible. I’d be putting a can and WML on this as well so it wouldn’t purely be a bench/prone gun.

I see pretty high praise for the WOA 416R SPR option but wanted to do my due diligence before I rule out the Criterion Hybrid. I know it’s Chrome Lined, so I didn’t know if I’d end up with a 1.3-1.5 MOA limit on something like that.


Rifle Scopes Need advice on Black Friday Deals

I am thinking about picking up a scope this black friday, and haven't really researched them as much as I would like, so I find myself in need of advice. My primary use(s) will be hunting at short range (under 100 yards), but I would also like to be able to practice for long distance shooting (out to about 1000 yards). It will be going on a 6.5 Creedmoor but I haven't settled on the exact rifle yet.

The following deals looked good and I am thinking now might be a good time to buy (with the sale and the potential of tariffs possibly driving up prices on some of the cheaper china manufactured scopes).

I am looking at the Arken EP 5 G2 7-35x56 (around 550), Arken EP-5 5-25x56 (does the fact that its not G2 matter) (around 420), and Vortex Optics Viper PST Gen 2 5-25x50(around 650).

Any considerations that I as a relative newbie in this field might miss when comparing them (they are all first focal plane scopes)?
Are the deals good enough to be worth jumping on or am I overvaluing them?
Anything else in that basic price range you would recommend instead?
Which would you pick and why?

Thanks in advance for any help.

What’s in a screen name

Simple question, cause I see so many and wonder what the story is. What does your screen name mean.

Mine is simple, it is my nickname throughout a lot of my life. My last name is Cogburn, and I grew up in Arkansas really close to Ft. Smith and Judge Parker’s court. The 98 is the year I joined Uncle Sugars chain gang

SOLD Defiance/Preferred Barrels 7PRC *Price Drop/Splits*

*UPDATE* KRG no longer available, individual prices below.

Barreled action w/ trigger $2025
Barreled action no trigger $1900
Trigger (after b/a sells) $125
Hornady Outfitter $360 - 160 factory rds, 40 pieces of brass

Looking to move this to recoup some funds. Put together this summer but had an opportunity to buy back a different rifle so this one needs to go. All components purchased new and 40rds total on it.

Defiance Classic L/A nitride finish
Preferred Barrel Blanks CF prefit 7PRC 22” 1/8
KRG X-Ray Gen4 w/ accessories *Sold*
Triggertech Primary nitride
MDT L/A 5rd mag

I also have 8 boxes of Hornady Outfitter 160CX to go with it, all from the same lot.

Asking $3k OBO shipped for the entire setup shipped to your FFL from an individual with ammo sent separately. Please let me know if you have any questions or need additional photos.

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Firearms Remington M24/40XB, 10x Leupold package

I picked this rifle up on trade from another member and I absolutely love it. The gun ADD kicked in, though. I put just over a box through it, and it appears to have been shot very little prior to me shooting it (the paint around the crown was barely chipped). It shoots 175gr FGMM extremely well and that is all I have tried in it so far.

I'm sure some other members who are more familiar with these rifles can chime in about their history, but I gathered that it is the predecessor to the M24 SWS that had the adjustable stock. I called it the A1 just because it was the most I could find with a little Google searching, but I could be wrong. This has the more rare "B" suffix serial number and the barrel is marked 7.62x51 for the chambering. The trigger is absolutely amazing in here as well.

The rifle is topped with a Leupold Ultra 10X-M1A with the Premier Reticle crosshairs. It also includes the original factory paperwork for this rifle which is pretty cool. This would be an awesome gun for someone who is into collecting things more than I am.

$4,500 shipped for the package. I would trade it toward an AI AX (2014 style), AI AXMC, or AI AXSR. For the long actions I would prefer 300NM or 338NM but I can always swap barrels. Other than that I am pretty set on trades but always open to high end optics in FFP and Mil/Mil.


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SOLD RRS TVC 22i compact tripod with anvil 30 and carry bag

Like new RRS TVC 22i compact tripod. Was ordered this summer and used a hand full of times. No real wear visible. Have another RRS tripod and don't need two.

New
TVC 22iC tripod $860
Anvil adapter $55
Anvil 30 ARC head $415
Sunrise tactical tripod bag $150
Total $1480

Asking $1280 shipped

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Pots and fucking pans

My wife is scouring the internet for a new set of pots and pans after the last $1,000+ dollar set of miracle "lasts forever, nothing will ever stick, they will add 30 points to your credit score overnight etc." Pans that we bought a few years ago have begun to deteriorate.

Help me fellas, where do we spend the money on pans that will perform and last. I don't want anything with Teflon or other shit that is slowly poisoning you, but I already have a closet full of cast iron, and each time you use them, the cleaning process is long and tedious. Looking for every day pots and pans for general cooking. Anybody have any advice?

Optics WTS: Schmidt & Bender and Kahles 624i, cheap

Hate to do it, (especially the Scmidt) but I have to let some things go to fund life stuff.

Schmidt & Bender 5-25 H2CMR reticle. Body and glass is perfect condition. Box included Sold

Kahles 624i SKMR1 ret. Right side windage. Glass is clean and body is 99%. There’s one teeny mark on the bottom of the tube. SPF

Vortex pst gen2. 1-6x24. VMR-2 mil illuminated ret. Ran it on a .22 to one range trip. Basically new. Box and papers included $400 shipped

34mm DTA mount. 20 moa. 1 1/2” high. Internal bubble level. Cerakoted fde. Replaced the factory screws with Badger Ordnance torx. The original screws were tiny allen heads that liked to strip. $200 shipped

Spuhr 4001. $300 shipped

PM with any questions or pictures. I’ll get some of the mounts tonight. Thanks yall

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SOLD (2x) NX8 4-32 f1 mil-xt

I have two USED, but in good condition nx8s for sale one with a Spurh mount and one without rings. Both are ffp mil-xt

With spurh and box 1700
Without box and no rings 1500

Shipped and insured
Venmo or paypal. If you want to do G&S add 3%

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SOLD Fix it sticks torque limiters and HK sight tool-package

Cleaning up some things I haven't been using, selling as a package, including the HK sight tool. Personal use on the tools, not used a bunch, no issues with them.

110 for everything. Zelle, USPS mo, check or cash.
Please advise
Mark

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New 4 oz. AIR BRACE Cantilever Mount, American Rifle Company Black Friday Sale

Earth Folk,

Over the years, many people have asked me to design a cantilever scope mount optimized for AR-15 platforms. We'll I finally got around to it and here it is. We're calling it the AIR BRACE because the emphasis is on ultra-light weight while trying to keep the cantilever as stiff and strong as possible. The 30mm diameter x 38mm high mount weighs in at 4 ounces making it among the lightest in the industry, especially if one actually cares about the stiffness of the cantilever section. The mount also includes a level vial at the aft end that is back-lit through a hole that runs through the entire length of it, however, it is likely useful only for the young or those older folks lucky enough to see clearly up close. I used to be young.

Note that the images below are renderings. I'll post a picture of the real thing on a rifle soon. Torque values are 35 and 55 lb-in for the scope and rail respectively. I decided to go with one M4x0.7 screw for each scope clamp because it can handle torque in excess of 40 lb-in. Bear in mind that most mounts have at least two screws per side per ring to which 15-20 lb-in of torque is typically applied. Since we're doing the same job with one screw, twice as much torque must be applied, about 35 lb-in, to result in similar clamping force.

Should a two-screw version of the scope ring ever be required, we can easily and quickly introduced retrofit-able caps but I doubt that will be necessary. I used the AIR BRACE to hold a Schmidt & Bender 5-25x56 PM II on top of an old 10.2 lb Sako TRG-42 through which I put about 100 rounds of 338 LM. The experience was generally unpleasant because I really don't like recoil, but the AIR BRACE did its job maintaining and returning to zero. That said, our M-BRACE rings and mount are better choices for big stuff.

We're pricing the AIR BRACE at $349 but, since tomorrow is Black Friday, we're offering it at $279 though Monday.

Enjoy and have a happy Thanksgiving.


Ted

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