mmlook said:

Bushman? he's kind of an ass
- something about being a 2 time world champion or something like that

but seriously, we all asked about why they dial wind, and why they teach dialing wind for new shooters

this was the answer
- most new shooters don't know how to hold properly, and many times forget
- dialing is the dummy proof way to avoid that

so it seems like to the Oklahoma guys, holding is the advanced technique, and dialing is the beginners technique
- after some thought, I would agree
- just like elevation, I would rather someone get proficient at dialing first, before seeing them do hold overs

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Sorry I don’t know him. lol

Yeah if the beginner doesn’t get frustrated with timing out then they can dial but they will get a better skill level and time management with practicing holding small corrections from a dialed data. The mental game, as we mentioned earlier, is very important and needs practicing as well.

Practicing being able to use the reticle for holds is a very useful skill for new shooter and old shooters alike. People are afraid of it until they actually do it and see the hold is the same as a dial. Especially with the excellent reticles we have today.

FWIW, the DNT 7-35x56 is going up in price at the end of this week

faylix said:

Is this illuminated?

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It is not, to my knowledge this one is not available illuminated.

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I have a dummy round loaded to 0.020 inches of the lands.

I’m actually very happy with my 390ATIP load so if these things give me any grief at all, I’m gonna quit messing with them

If they shoot decent, I will try them at 2500 yards and see how big of a vertical group there is measure each velocity and then do the same thing with the ATIP and make up my mind

Fx51LP308 said:

And what's wrong with actually making sure it is a "Spade" before you call it one?



Precisely the problem. You see them and you believe them on faith without any evidence of their accuracy/truth. Just as most dems believed that the Jan 6 people were all rioters/insurrectionists because of all the YouTube (and MSM) footage they saw....



Who said I was? I'm only trying to determine who the actual troublemakers were, rather than just assume they were all "Amish" because of all those videos on YouTube. Regardless of who/what they are, if they are shown to be trouble-making to that extent, they need to be held accountable in the law. But, if they're not.....



I agree. I think primarily it's a parental problem than most anything else. But the same holds true for a number of different "groups..." including those who tell their youth that they're perfect and that the "Amish"are the problem.

Thank goodness there aren't that many "cross burnings" these days.

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What parents?

You mean the ones squirting g them out like a Pez dispenser because that means a bigger check each month?

And that includes the white trash. The number of teens who want to get knocked up in high school to get an income source is not small. It’s their life plan.

Sirhr

Threadcutter308 said:

Thank you for the correction, yes, you are correct. I put my response together in a hurry and it didn't feel totally correct when I hit "post reply".

Let's put it this way.......I trust Vlad a lot more than I trust that backstabbing weasel zelensky. If I can only trust and be friendly with one of them, it's going to be the superpower.

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Russia isn’t a superpower though. They are a regional middle power at-best, who can’t even make noticeable territorial gains in a country they seeded with moles for centuries.

Their Navy is a pathetic joke, were conscripts painted the Radomes on the Moskva with metallic paint (acts as an impeder of RF energy propagation-Radar no worky), on top of already-degraded Air Defense systems. That was their Black Sea Flagship.

Even if they were benevolent and friendly to all of their neighbors (all of Russia’s neighbors despise and hate them), and wanted to be a great trading partner, they can’t be due to geographic constraints and a low value-added economy and workforce who are lazy and drunk all the time.

Putin assured everyone Russia was peace-loving and he had no intentions of invading Ukraine, as the world watched him concentrate troops and weapons all along the border. This isn’t even remotely trustworthy. If you’ve ever tried to do business with Russians, it’s comically-retarded how insane and dismissive they are. Nobody trusts them, including themselves.

Ttt

straightshooter1 said:

Yes, this can help relieve any concern about heat traveling down the body by putting a line of this from the neck to the web. But, 400°C/750°F still isn't going to do much of anything to the body unless it's at that temperature for something like 30 seconds. I doubt the body ever gets to that temperature for much more than a second when a neck glows (say, 1200°F) for but a second or a fraction of a second.

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If you change the option selected you get a different picture based on that selection: what jrb said stands, test lower down the body with a lower degree to measure the heat migration if you are worried about it.

mmlook said:

last time I shot with Bushman, if dialing kept him on plate, he did it.

if the wind was switching back and forth, he would leave it at zero

trying to remember exactly what he did for the troop line stage,
im pretty sure he dialed wind on every target

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Great for Bushman, whoever that is, as he obviously can do it. Sounds like he does it on easier stages with enough time. You think the OP could do that? He can try but I doubt it. On the switching winds he must have been holding as wind was still there.

mosin46 said:

don't think so. don't think his historical memory would encourage that. of course Finland is not what it was in '39.

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You have to understand that Russians in their intelligentsia don’t learn about the Winter War history. WWII is taught much differently to the few who will need to know foreign policy.

I took these photos myself inside the Central Red Army Museum in Moscow:





What Putin learned was how the fascist Finns attacked and invaded Russia without provocation. An instructor of history would have taken him and other young university students through the Central Red Army Museum, where you can see hundreds of weapons, dioramas, diagrams, maps, and related displays about The Great Patriotic War.

No other information will be valid to him, as it is Western propaganda. You can’t even begin to convince him otherwise, as he has “reliable” informatsia from qualified people.

Most Russians in their intelligentsia don’t even know about Talvisota and Stalin’s unprovoked aggression. The latest comments I’ve seen from propagandists on social media was that Simo Häyhä was the Ghost of Kiev equivalent for Finland, and that there weren’t even enough Soviet Army soldiers near Häyhä to account for his claimed kills.

When shown the casualties of the Battle of Kollaa, where that all happened, they go silent. You can see the effects of multi-generational brain-drain in Russia, though they can easily deceive common core generation kids in the US, who don’t even know their own State geographies or history, let alone where any of this stuff is abroad.

In the Russian mindset at the General Officer planning level, they look at Finland’s population numbers and see Finland as a “yapping little dog”. They don’t even understand the basic geographic constraints of the terrain, as it’s nothing like their border with Ukraine.

OREGUN said:

Saying that a person is doing it wrong if they dial is making a broad generalization despite plenty of evidence to the contrary. Just because it’s a way that you’re not comfortable with doesn’t make it wrong.

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If there is plenty of time then it can be done. Just like dialing elevation on the clock. Some stages it’s a great way to time out. Dialing wind on the clock is not something I would tell someone to do unless they did have plenty of time, which most new shooters don’t. I would tell them to learn how to use their reticle to make fast corrections as it’s very easy to use but a skill people don’t practice. Same for hold overs or unders. People get spooked when having to use the reticle as they don’t practice it. When they do they see how easy it is to use. Much faster than using their reticle as windage dial and just as accurate.

Winning.

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Really, it is almost difficult to take a good shooter with a good rifle build, and using good ammo... shoot as poorly as 2 MOA these days from a rested setup. We're pretty spoiled.

However, I've noticed that my accuracy devolves pretty quickly when I'm trying to shoot at multiple running pigs in the middle of the night. No amount of pinpoint accuracy in the rig there is going to help when you step in a cow flop as you shift left/right and one of your feet starts to slide out from under you.

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IMHO, if shorter is what you're after, then go with the shortest available to you. I have two 14.5's and a 13.9"; there's little to no difference in performance amongst them, but the 13.9" is much more aesthetically pleasing.

OREGUN said:

This is factually incorrect.

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Then dial away! lol

232593 said:

Think Putin’s going to make a go at Finland?

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The foreign ministry secretary who bragged about Putin’s strategic vision back in the 2000s said Finland, the Baltics, Poland, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Romania, Bulgaria, Ukraine, and Goergia would all be taken back, now that Russia has a strong man in again.

We were having the discussion with the guy who took me into Russia about Finland joining NATO, and the Russian foreign ministry secretary (one of his in-laws) said if Finland joined NATO, it would be seen as a provocation and threat to Russia, resulting in Finland being taken quickly, but they were planning to take it anyway.

I kind of placed this guy in the category of an old Soviet-era blowhard (which was true), but also didn’t just write him off altogether and remembered the list of countries on the plan. This was well before 2008.

My Irish Sniper partner and I competed in FinnSniper in 2008 in the summer, then I went to be an Observer-Controller in Erna Raid in Estonia. While we were running Erna Raid, Russia invaded Georgia. That conversation about Russia’s strategic vision immediately went to the top of my list and I felt we were on our way to watching history unfold once again.

As we speak, Putin is having the logistics infrastructure for thousands of soldiers being built right near the Finnish border, in similar fashion as was done before his invasion of Ukraine.

Definitely the model noted in the link in the post above.

I had an A2 clone for a Savage about 20 years ago. My example had the aluminum block canted in the mold I guess...the bottom of the forend had a good 5 degree left to right slope. I tried to make it work a few times at the range, but eventually sold it and never looked back. Probably an example of one, as B&C made a lot of stocks for Remington and a few others for many years and I don't recall anyone else ever discussing that issue.

Very similar to the designs of an H-S Precision, but with probably a little less focus on QC and more emphasis on being made to a price point. The good news is that B&C are about a third to half the cost of a Manners with a mini chassis...so for guys on a budget they should still work fine. I definitely agree with the above that the owner would be doing themself a benefit by skim bedding them though. If they could catch up to the market a bit with things like QD sling points, and wider barrel channels then they might have a bit more popularity. Their niche though is to drop-in factory barreled actions and go. As far a being structurally sound, they are perfectly fine.

Which brings me to the point that for second-hand sales, you're more limited to guys who are running nothing thicker than a factory Remington varmint barrel and bottom metal (or if they want to relieve the inlet). In today's 'tactical' rifle market, those are significantly less popular options.

That Anschutz rail is aftermarket.

I don't really have a good idea of what you'll get out of it. If you do sell it, might not hurt to come back here and let us know what it went for.

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How’s that @DuneBoer?

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Every democrat here would suck her dick in a heartbeat.

$1800 shipped for the scope only.

LuckyLuke80 said:

Easy to answer. Daniel was seeing not just into the spirit world, he was seeing into the future. Of the beasts he saw we know that one was Alexander the Great and so on. The ancient of days he saw was obviously God. He also saw the son of man which is obviously a man, and that is the Man Christ Jesus. Not duality. He saw God and he saw the flesh that God would put on to save us. Read revelation 1. John describes the same thing as Daniel but calls it the Son of man. When we get to heaven we will see God. He will be sitting by himself on ONE throne. He will have scars in His hands, feet, and brow. And we will bow down and worship him.

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This illustrates perfectly what is going on.

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