When the pack decides you need to fight your way to the top

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There is no way in hell I’d give someone advice to stay in the middle and work up til you puncture a primer lol.

Hell, chamber to chamber is different. My .223 wylde chamber on my gas gun match rifle shows pressure at half way through what the book calls for on Tac and I get ridiculous velocities with 75g hornady match bthp compared to what the book calls for at my lighter load.

I’ll give all the advice you want on brass prep, tools, powder choices, etc but load data, well, that’s why they have books and GRT. Will I post mine? Sure, but I don’t load anywhere near “hot” on anything, I load for accuracy and then figure out the wind from there and that’s the advice I’d give anyone asking.

First of all, thanks for the many thoughtful comments. I hadn't expected so many responses.

My original post wasn't intended to look down on anyone. My question really was trying to get at the essence of the shooting problem.

Obviously better fundamentals on a more challenging rifle would result in better outcomes.

And they are welcome to blast away with their friends as and how they please. To each his own. Have seen many groups of friends alternating on a single rifle and having tons of fun with it. Great.

I have also seen guys looking at their targets and obviously disappointed in what they are seeing. Shot impacts all over and plainly no idea why.

The question I was wondering about is whether there is something in the AR concept that could be improved, or recommended for occasional shooters, that would let them do better with these rigs. I don't have an idea to contribute on that, which is what led to the post in the first place.

Would a heavier barrel help keep a shooter more stable through the recoil pulse ? A lighter trigger? Some way to tell whether a barrel likes a 55gr round better than a 77gr round? Should the way the barrel attaches to the receiver be changed?

I realize that many shooters buy inexpensive rigs or build their own with inexpensive parts and to some extent you get what you pay for.

And the targets Makinchips208 posted maybe settles it: bad ammo.

But if not, that was the point of my original post.

Pretty sure this isn’t real……but funny

Threadcutter308 said:

@Dirty D does sisters. Were you aware that your main squeeze wants to go on a diet ? Did she consult with you first ?

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Spelled "whales" wrong .....

Eh, 2-1/2 MOA is my best ability with a sling/glove/coat and wobbly elbow at 5 or 600 yds with good ammo...

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gopherslayer said:

Suspend them above a wood chipper by a winch and have it timed to lower 1” every minute until they die from the agony and slow bleed out.

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Need to upgrade to a tub type woodchipper. Can accommodate all sizes. That one above looks to be maybe a 12". Horizontals go up to around 18"ish. Tubs can handle bigger.

LeftyJason said:

Thanks. Have not been around them and I'm not really a fisherman. They taste good to me when I get them canned, smoked, or previously frozen in the grocery store.

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Have you seen the videos about parasites in salmon

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Suspend them above a wood chipper by a winch and have it timed to lower 1” every minute until they die from the agony and slow bleed out.

@CEO10KaDAY I sent you a text earlier in the week but no response. If you are still interested let me know.

@Mr.unlister not interested in trades at this time but thanks for asking.