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Anyone using MDT metal mags with Hawkins Hunter BM

If this is true the tolerance must overlap. All of the aics mags I've tried in my hawkins hunter BM play nice together. Used metal mdt, plastic mdt, plastic magpul aics, ARC metal Mags and they all worked.
Hmmmm... I'll have to mess with it again tomorrow. I just had a rifle in the shop with the Hawkins hunter DBM and the short action MDT mag we had wouldn't fit. I'll grab a DBM off the shelf and check it again.
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My bet is that somewhere between 41.5 - 43.5gr of Varget, IMR-4064, or Reloader 15 will shoot to the best of your barrels potential with 168-178gr bullets.

It is a great cartridge to load for.
I did a bunch of 175 Berger OTMs at 42 and 44, .05 off the lands. Gonna go take it out tomorrow and see how it goes.

It is a forgiving cartridge.
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an interesting side light. get the guy's accent? sounds almost Cuban. never heard Romanian language spoken before. but it IS a Romance language like French,Portuguese,Italian and Spanish. knew that long time but never heard it spoken before.
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Weight System for Aero Solus

That's really clever.

I like how you can move them around to REALLY tune your balance.

Are you satisfied with them so far?

Tune that chassis to match up with the resonance of your barrel harmonics from your tuner setting so that everything is in sync.

Hopefully enough fidelity in the different settings to allow the amplitudes of the sinusoidal waves to match up.

Tune your tune, if you will. I bet @carbonbased will be all over this...

Anyone using MDT metal mags with Hawkins Hunter BM

Hawkins Hunter DBM requires their proprietary mags. AICS mags won’t work. Mag dimensions and the latch placement is different.

If this is true the tolerance must overlap. All of the aics mags I've tried in my hawkins hunter BM play nice together. Used metal mdt, plastic mdt, plastic magpul aics, ARC metal Mags and they all worked.
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New Applied Ballistics® Quantum™ APP! - & It's Free!

The integration with the Tango Fire 4000 is fantastic. Thank you Doc and the folks at AB for continuing to make this app better and better. I love that you are collapsing all of the various apps down into one. Makes life so much easier.
I think Kestrel and AB need to collaborate on something like this that is a one stop solution and more modern compared to the clunky Kestrel and has all of the brainpower of AB

Hating these Hornady 105gn BTHP Match 6mm Creedmoor bullets for reloading

Just some suggestions.
Something sounds off, but hard to nail down from here if the NT is really only 0.001" and the necks are chamfered...
It is difficult to isolate without using an known good seater, and measuring the seating force, but lets just talk out loud for a moment.

The possibilities include:
1. Seating stem contact area is too low.
2. Brass prep or friction coefficient is wrong.
3. Bullets abnormal.

Color a fresh bullet surface with a black marker. Then, by hand push the bullet with the seating stem and spin the bullet a little.
If the contact patch is just a line, we are in trouble with the stem. If the contact patch is an area, then we have to look deeper.

Maybe try and see if you can just start the bullet and stop right when it opens the mouth just enough for the bearing diameter to barely enter the mouth and stop. See if the damage is already done.

Point of this is to learn if the damage is done right away, or as a result of the rest of the seating stroke.

If there is very high force while the bullet goes down the neck, it is the product of (hoop stress x friction coefficient) + some plastic deformation. If the highest force is all at the first entry of the bullet, then we know it is due to the case mouth chamfer.

Another thing to study is a pulled bullet. Is there evidence of scrape marks from the case mouth? Is there galling between the case and bearing surface? A little friction evidence is normal, but galling damage or scrape marks are different.

If you were close by, I would quickly inspect your necks and test a sample with my seater using the AMP press. Right now, we don't know if the damage is due to very high seating forces, or one of the other possibilities.

Does the damage still occur if you just chamfer and mandrel virgin brass without working the neck down in the die?
Would the damage occur if your prepped brass is lubricated on the ID just as a test?
These thoughts would help isolate the issues in the absence of a force measurement.

If you have an experienced friend close by that can help you out, it may save you some frustrations. On the AMP Press with my seater, we would know in short order if the damage happens under normal seating force, or if the seating force is too high for whatever reason, and the third possibility is that the bullets are just abnormal.

Having some club mates that can lend a hand would make this easy, but when you are on your own it just takes patients.

Good Luck, hope you find it quick. In for the report.
I'll do some more research tomorrow because its late now. I just did a couple checks with the caliper. So bullet diamerter is .243 for the 6mm Creed. I checked the mandrel and it reads .242. I also checked the inside diameter of the cases I ran the mandrel through and the half dozen I checked are reading .242. So that would make it .001 neck tension.