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If a .22, maybe a CZ in a chassis that you can adjust easily with growth. Easy to upgrade with barrels, triggers, etc. Centerfire? I would do the Origin, start with a .223 bolt head and same with the chassis. Down the road, barrel length, weight, caliber, triggers, even the chassis can be changed, modified, etc. All modular with a market for new and used.
I personally would go .22 as the venues for training, recoil, ammunition cost etc are easier on you and the young one. Down they road the loose interest, you are not out but so much and it's a gun you can shoot and keep around if the desire resurfaces.
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Accessories FS: (3) AI AX Short Action Rem 700 Chassis - Black

Up for sale is 3 used AI AX Short Action Chassis for the Rem 700 footprint.

#1 - Long 16" Fore end tube, Excellent Condition $1,750 (5.6 lbs)- Milled to accept the Impact Trigger Hanger $1,650

#2 - Standard Fore end 13" tube (5.4 lbs), Excellent Condition $1,650

#3 - Standard Fore end 13" tube Milled out for an Impact trigger hanger (5.4 lbs). Has marks in the recoil lug recess from someones oversize lug. More used than the above 2. $1,600

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Current Surgeon vs AI Action

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Don't let a bunch of guys on the internet tell you what YOU need. The info you are getting is what we as individuals think are the most important parts of a rifle and with our own bias of what makes it best.

What you really should do is attend a small local match and try to get some time behind several rifles and have a genuine conversation with the owners about the pros/cons of their rifles system.

Oddly enough there is a lot of shade thrown about AI failures but only in the "trust me, it happens a lot" scenario... All systems have failures and from my few observations of failures (trust me, it happens a lot) it is typically caused by user error in some way or another. Mismatching components, adjusting triggers outside of their listed parameters, etc.

If you ask me what the best rifle ever built is, I would tell you the AXMC is the bestest. Does that make it the best rifle for PRS? Would you even like it if you shot it? Only you can answer these questions in the end.

There are a ton of great actions out there and you won't be disappointed by any of them - even if there are features of another brand that you decide you can't live without.

Current Surgeon vs AI Action

Lol, there is definitely some deciphering to do above.

Personally, once things are squared away, neither platform should encounter problems in normal conditions. The 700 potentially needs more tweaking when setting it up with your mags depending on how the stars align. The AI should just run out of the box. But neither of my customs have posed any real hassle.

Based on the 2 local prs matches a month and ~ 4 big 2-day matches a year I attend (I'm not a PRS legend). From what I have seen, the trigger is the only "action" related failure that seems to occur now. This isn't a common occurance, but definitely happens in some of the western desert areas I'm in, every so often. I'm not counting other shenanigans like barrels loosening, or optics failing.

Unfortunately, my AXSR is my only bolt action to have had trigger issues in a match so far and I have seen one AT with the old trigger have issues, so the AI is not immune. I have not yet seen issues with my Bix TSP or TT diamond, but I've seen several TTs go down before. This is out in sand hell though.

The current quality of actions and parts makes the reliability argument such a dumb one.

Back in the day was a much different story. AI's were clearly superior to custom built rifles when it came to adverse conditions. If you didn't want to get an AI, Surgeon was really the only game in town that could provide a field reliable action, but you were still stuck with BR type triggers.

It's different today. Pretty much all of the actions, definitely all the regularly recommended ones here, are designed for use in adverse conditions. So are sensitive components like triggers.

Anything man-made can and will eventually fail in the right set of conditions. But precision rifles have come an incredibly long way in the past decade. You don't need to choose between an AI or custom rifle to get reliability anymore.

SOLD 2 vets no name V2 and 55mm ball head $630 for the pair shipped @MrCleaners

I have a used like new V2 and 55mm ball head.

Pm for questions for maybe more pics if needed. No marks but pics have a ton of dust. This was before the rubber twisty things on the leg ajustable locks.

$630 for the pair shipped
$185 for the ball head
$445 for the tripod.


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