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Delta Air Lines bans emotional support animals - The Points Guy
Delta officially bans emotional support animals from planes.
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Well I guess that means Bender can't fly commercial
I hate people that just buy a vest for their dog and try to act like it’s a trained service dog...l have seen countless therapy dogs barking at people, trying to bite people, not listening to instructions...its ridiculous BTW I’m a dog lover
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That's pretty much been my peeve. I live in an area that's swarming with trophy wives, and their stupid, useless designer dogs - that are great for placating morons - but wouldn't survive a day in the wild.
A local restaurant owner was once heard (by myself) telling one of these classless bimbos, that the dog - a chihuahua - couldn't be in the restaurant. "But he's a service dog". Owner asks her if the animal has a service vest. She says, "you don't understand - he's a service animal". The disgusting little fuck is licking the edge of the table, while bimbo and her Eunuch male watch gleefully. He informs them that both herself and the restaurant could be fined $1000 for this. She holds the line. Both the couple, and the dog, finish their lunch while I look on in horror. If I ever felt the compulsion to murder, it was right then and there.
Later, he tells me in confidence that he can't say shit, because these bimbos are the lifeblood of his business. And I feel his very real pain, because I know it's true. (location, location, location)
Which seems to be a large portion of them.
That's right. But it's time to tear off the band-aid that's preventing becoming a functional human amongst one's own kind...
Dammit!
Looks like my beloved pet gerbil — Captain Felcher — is gonna have to be checked from now on.
Looks like my beloved pet gerbil — Captain Felcher — is gonna have to be checked from now on.
I haven't flown since they banned masturbating , I thought that was the purpose of the blankets .
for 6 damn hours ......
Dammit!
Looks like my beloved pet gerbil — Captain Felcher — is gonna have to be checked from now on.
He can still stow...
On a bright note, that means my wife can't travel with me...
That's an emotional distress pet. Fly with your sub mistress, instead...
It doesn’t work that way but I get your point. After alcohol, ESAN’s are the main reason for issues with people in flights.
No, it doesn't work that way, but he's right. People do that shit. They really do. States have different rules, but the federal government is clear that emotional support animals are NOT service animals, and are not protected under ADA.
But in order for it to be an emotional support animal you need a note from a psychiatrist. They are not service animals which do not require a note from a psychiatrist only proof that they are actually certified service animals. The problem is the psychiatrist who just writes a note and collects a fee because they can. The people who do it are just taking advantage of a service offered. Some people legitimately need them. I can’t tell you how many medical emergencies I’ve had to divert for because some nervous flier thought mixing ambien and 5 vodka tonics was a good way to help anxiety while flying. I’d rather have the yappy chihuahua.
That might be the case in your state, but since so-called "emotional support" animals are not covered under ADA, that's not a rule everywhere.
Also, I'd rather have dysfunctional people grounded, than being twitchy when I gotta be somewhere. Seriously, if you're fucking mental, deal with that shit before venturing out amongst those who aren't broken the same way.
Also, I'd rather have dysfunctional people grounded, than being twitchy when I gotta be somewhere. Seriously, if you're fucking mental, deal with that shit before venturing out amongst those who aren't broken the same way.
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Yup. My mom has been an AA flight attendant for 23 years or so. She says at least 90% of people with emotional support pets are completely unreasonable.
Emotional support animals seem to be a pretty accurate indicator of deep narcissism.
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expresspetcertify.com You know we say stuff like this and lump people into groups (I’m guilty of it). I once had an 8 year old girl on a flight with her ESAN, it was a black lab and it was missing a big patch of fur. I’ll never forget this. I remember the gate agent having a heated discussion with the girls mother (who turned out to be her aunt) over the validity of the paperwork. You see we see so many scammers it’s hard to not see them all as scammers. Anyway, I normally don’t get involved but the little girl was in tears clutching on to this dog so I intervened at my own peril and spoke to the woman. It turns out just a few weeks prior, this little girl lost her whole family in a house fire. Mom, dad, and 2 brothers. She survived because as it happened this dog was sleeping with her that night and helped her get out of the house. The missing fur was a burn scar the dog endured helping this little girl. The aunt explained that since that moment the dog has not left her and she has not left the dog. I don’t know about you but I am perfectly ok with that dog being on my flight. Note or no note.
Shit ain’t always black and white. It’s not always the Paris Hilton’s with their tea cup chihuahua just trying to look cute.
I agree. I've only had one problem in 15 years with an animal on a flight. That was a small dog that the owner couldn't/wouldn't control and refused to stay in the seat, and growled at the FA's and passengers. I've had MANY issues with passengers that should have been muzzled or put in cargo. It's not the animals that are the problem, just the basketcase humans that can't function in public.
Look, it's a good story. But I'm not going to recant anything that I said over it. Sure, if that one in a billion situation occurred, you'd want the airline to do what's right. (I'd fight to the death to let a little girl bring her pet, in that case) But we all know that ain't how it typically goes. And that's a one time deal. When that girl is 30, one can only hope that she's received proper counseling, and is no longer hauling the family pet around in coach class. Everyone else can learn to fly like civilized people. Or else I'd like some consideration from the airline. Especially considering I earn status every year on retail tickets, out of my own pocket. We're all flying together, with no say of who one another are. So let's get it down to the least common denominator, so that we can get along as best as possible. Leaving your fucking animal at home, is a great start.
There is no such thing as a bad dog, only a bad dog owner.
Right. That's the premise, for sure. But the solution is to ground the humans, not allow the pets.
The people who game it to bring their pet on vacation are a problem. But looking at everyone through the same lens is what leads us to things like black people rioting in the streets because they feel (right or not) they get treated like criminals at every interaction. Sometimes you gotta give people the benefit of the doubt and try to squash that bias. I am so guilty of this. I mean I’ll be honest, I hate everyone that gets in the plane, I feel like they are all entitled fucks. I have to remind myself to check myself. It’s hard because I’m fed up as fuck with humanity. It’s so much easier to just look through that lens of distrust. I’m obviously not just talking about ESAN anymore.
We don't live in the kind of society that is conducive to giving deferrence to good judgment. People are fucking idiots. Most of them. You see it plainly, if you're paying attention - and assuming that you aren't one, yourself. I share your pessimism towards humanity. And I'd love to shave about half of the world's population. But until/unless that happens, keeping the EASN at home, is an absolute no-brainer. Because if we all get on the plane without pets, then nobody's pet can be a problem. Right?
I'm ok with a non-support animal beside me than the animals I once had next too me coming back from LAX to ATL. Not sure what part of world they were from except either 3rd world not of this hemisphere, but woman and her mom travelling with infant. Infant shits in his drawers...ok...no big deal, airplanes give everybody gas if they've eaten wrong thing and it's no more than 14 months. But that's where my "sympathy" ended. They changed the diaper right there, right beside me, put dirty diaper I think on the tray table. I was practically in the other aisle seat I was so leaned over. I could not hit the attendant button because I'd have gotten shit all over me. We were in turbulence too, so FA's were not strolling around as usual.
They got a piece of my mind. I know they saw it happening. Just chose to do nothing despite my waving at them and all but bolting down the aisle (probably to be tackled) running from that.
Give me a slightly unruly dog any day of the week. I'll "Whisper it" if need be. I'd even be ok with support cat over that craziness.
They got a piece of my mind. I know they saw it happening. Just chose to do nothing despite my waving at them and all but bolting down the aisle (probably to be tackled) running from that.
Give me a slightly unruly dog any day of the week. I'll "Whisper it" if need be. I'd even be ok with support cat over that craziness.
lol glad they did before I tried to use that as a way to transport my emotional support pony with diarrhea on the plane . lol
My mom provides exhibit A. To pre-empt some of you who might think my mother "might be the problem"... she's been the American Airlines Flight Attendant of the year a half dozen times, is a trainer for the company, and was inducted into the company hall of fame which is kinda of a big deal. That said:
So what you're telling me, is that I just lack compassion, because I think that the whole concept of ESAN is ridiculous? That people who are so fragile, as to be evolutionary throwbacks, shouldn't be given the same consideration as others? The notion that a dog is more socialized than a human, doesn't strike you as bizarre? From my own warped perspective - I don't like the needs of the few, dictating the rules for the many. In the same way that I don't give a shit what your pronouns are, or what restroom you prefer to use. (I said it, no take-backs)
Also, I want to be clear, that I think that the airline has every right in the world to decide its own policies. The only time it can't say anything, is when it intersects federal policy. That is not this. I fucking love Delta.
Also, I want to be clear, that I think that the airline has every right in the world to decide its own policies. The only time it can't say anything, is when it intersects federal policy. That is not this. I fucking love Delta.
and those snowflakes took over a country sadly ours .
Lucky for us all, there are very strict federal guidelines on what constitutes a service animal. And emotional support animals are NOT considered service animals (it's almost, but not quite, entirely limited to dogs). So that fear is a bit unfounded. At least for now. With a full Democrat control of the government, rules be changin' shortly, no doubt.
I mean that’s one point in the whole discussion. But I also believe that the little girl who wants to go to Disney world deserves to also but she terrified of leaving the one thing in her life she has left. Sure they can drive, but it’s of no consequence to me to have them on board. There are a lot of failures in the ESAN system. Outright prohibition may be necessary as a first step in resetting the process. Iloilo bet good money they will be allowed agin at some point soon. What I absolutely have nobtolerance for is animals in the cargo. Fortunately my airline prohibits it.
I wish that were true. Fucking mini horses were in the guidelines at one point
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www.ada.gov
- Beginning on March 15, 2011, only dogs are recognized as service animals under titles II and III of the ADA.
- A service animal is a dog that is individually trained to do work or perform tasks for a person with a disability.
- Generally, title II and title III entities must permit service animals to accompany people with disabilities in all areas where members of the public are allowed to go.
So as you can see, your wish has been granted.
No, because it will cause fanboy arguments about how my 6.5 Grendel is the superior caliber.
There are actually a couple of fair reasons for using mini-horses. They're sturdier as a physical support, they're stronger than dogs if they need to be a bit more forceful, and they're more inclined to carrying or dealing with medical supplies or baggage. And you'd probably notice a random knee-high horse a lot easier in the event of an emergency than you would a dog.I wish that were true
But that's fairly-practical reasoning. I still think Delta's wrong for not letting me bring my smelling-tongue komodo dragon on the airplane. They're prejudiced!
They are welcome to their wrong opinion. But that doesn’t change anything about the esa letter I had my wife get me from someone she works withNo, because it will cause fanboy arguments about how my 6.5 Grendel is the superior caliber.
What about Emotional Support Skanks?
They are welcome to their wrong opinion. But that doesn’t change anything about the esa letter I had my wife get me from someone she works with
How about if we just agree to let your emotional support 300 deal with short term (range) issues, and my Grendel to deal with long term (range) issues? Reasonable people reach reasonable compromises. And we can still sit together on the plane and bitch about the rest of the emotionally handicapped passengers.
Asking questions like that is why you'll end up carrying your purse dog onto the plane later.
Asking questions like that is why you'll end up carrying your purse dog onto the plane later.
Soooo... yes or no to the skanks?
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